Topic: If we only listened...
Oceans5555's photo
Tue 06/12/07 12:01 PM
Hey adj -- great to see your post.

The family unit....now this is a BIG topic. I think you are right in
pointing to this, for the breakdown of the family unit (and especially
the extended family unit) leaves our citizenry so occupied with just
making it through the day that we have little time for thinking about
larger issues.

And of course the poor quality of news on TV only isolates people
further from what is going on in the country.

grumble grumble grumble

Oceans

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 12:45 PM
if you read the patriot act

the news is not permitted to be aired

look up patriot act of 2001

in search engine

Oceans5555's photo
Tue 06/12/07 12:47 PM
Huh?

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 12:48 PM
yep check it out

i think it comes under the passing of information

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 12:58 PM
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

for those that want to read the patriot act

i would say enjoy

but wake up is much more fitting

no photo
Tue 06/12/07 12:59 PM
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adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 01:01 PM
oh oh left ya speechless

no photo
Tue 06/12/07 01:30 PM
???????????????????? complince?????????????????????????????

Or non-complince


been there allready !

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 01:37 PM
??????????????????????

i am lost

i am sure that you have much knowledge that
could enlighten us all fun

so plz enlighten

may much good come to you and yours

oldsage's photo
Tue 06/12/07 02:01 PM
The word to use is APATHY

Yes the public is letting all of this happen. We are allowing career
poilticians, NEED 2 term Limits, Need a federal sales tax, dropping
income tax, Need the LAWS ON THE BOOKS enforced/ quit the plea bargains,
Need our teachers to go back to TEACHING & being held accountable for
their jobs.

Every vote does matter & it is time people understood that.
I was called simple recently & took it as a compliment.
I think we NEED to get back to simple. Big business is failing because
executives come from the outside & have no pride/loyalty from coming up
thru the ranks.

Taking this country back requires lots of SIMPLE things.
Not guns, advertising, violence; just educated voters

no photo
Tue 06/12/07 04:44 PM
I agree on the point adj was making, family unit is pretty well
destroyed. It seems to me that women have no interest in being married
before having children anymore. I should include men in this mix, but
the few women I know who had children out of wedlock didn't bother to
get their boyfriend's agreement, however they were quick to get the
courts to enforce their rights to child support. It is a wild world for
child bearing. Sorry that sounds so bad, but I just see what I see.

However, that was off the topic, so lets get back to the original issue.

Yes DaVinci the corporations are quite powerful. They have had a large
measure of control over governments historically. In the US and Europe
over the last century you can see this quite a lot. This is a difficult
situation to modify.

The economy is another thing hijacked by large entities and this follows
your point as well. I'm interrupted now although I had more to say on
the subject. I'll have to come back later. These matters concern me as
well.

no photo
Tue 06/12/07 07:11 PM
The University of Edinburg link

http://www.ed.ac.uk/explore/av/

Lectures

SammyJo27's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:19 PM
Speaking as a mother with a child out of wedlock family has nothing to
do with legal documentation. My child and I live with extended family
to help each other out. What I can do is to teach the children that I
am in contact with how important family and friends are. To help your
fellow people.

no photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:26 PM
remember Bush Sr. telling us "its a new idea."

its the New World Order.


its the one Bush Sr. stated over 250 times when he was in office.
Clinton, Gore and Bush Jr. also gave cridence to The New World Order. So
did Kennedy and Reagon.



Here is a great, great interview.

http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/231105roberts.htm

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:27 PM
You are on it oldsage! Some people make a career out of complicating
the obvious if for no other reason than to puff their chests and say
"look at me" when in fact we already are and are trying not to laugh.
Them thar perfessers ya know. laugh laugh laugh laugh happy

adj4u's photo
Tue 06/12/07 08:37 PM
sammy

the destruction of the family unit is the beginning of the
downfall of society

the child needs male and female roles in their developmental
years

i am not saying you or anyone else are in a bad situation
but look at the changes in the society since say the sixtys

the moral fiber has deteriorated till it is barely noticable

and most of the leaders of the country were children at one time or
another :smile:

when a leader grows up in a lopsided environment then they
will lead with a lopsided view

and if you wanna disagree that is fine but it is hard to
argue the decline of society

Jess642's photo
Tue 06/12/07 10:29 PM
When an argumant is presented as women, (direct or indirect) being the
downfall of a lop-sided society, surely one can expect a response...


I would like to respond to davinci's posts about dis-ease in society...

and ask a question, or three...

What are the statistics related to the increases, from 1970 - current
date, of anti-depressant prescriptions, also behaviour related
prescriptions, eg, Bi-polar, ADD, ADHD, in the US?

Is there an increase?

What are the social contributers to these rises?

And is it just 'break-through' information, and medicines, from the
psychological, and psychiatric fields, the biological, and medical
fields, or is it a 'bandaid' measure to something much bigger?


Jess642's photo
Tue 06/12/07 10:31 PM
Sorry, davinci's comment in regards to 'all on drugs', not dis-ease.

transientmind's photo
Tue 06/12/07 10:52 PM
IMHO, Jess...

The rising numbers may have something to do with more public recognition
of the symptoms. We're more open with our mental health issues.

transientmind's photo
Tue 06/12/07 11:03 PM
<<<Realized that bipolar with ADD doesn't qualify me for anything since
I reread your post and saw "WOMEN."

**Shuts up and lets the pro talk**