Cowboy...of couse you do know that there are Christians that do believe that Jesus is God and believe in the concept of The Trinity of God being three Godheads....

but here's the weird part... since you and I both agree about the Trinity being a Man made thing and in my original post I stated that in the bible it should have perhaps stated that God was not a part of any three Godheads.....then what the heck are you arguing about?

alright let me clearify it. Jesus is not God in the sence that it is the same being eg., trinity. We are ALL a part of God. Look at it this way. You would be his left foot and i would be his right foot. If one of the feet started to do things the way they wanted and not the way the entire body as a whole want would you not amputate that foot?

In a sence there is a trinity, but it is NOT all one mind if you may say. There is such a thing as God our father, Jesus Christ, and the holy ghost. If God and Jesus was exactly one being who was Jesus praying to? For instance Jesus specifically said Father forgive them for they know not what they do. If Jesus is God who was he speaking to?

To put it in a more simple mind set, the trinity you can look at as a more substantial object that you look at everyday, your physical body. Say God is your head, Jesus is your right hand and the holy spirit is your left hand. They are ALL seperate beings but make up one body. God doesn't physically "CONTROLL" Jesus and the holy ghost, only instructs them to do certain things.

Only have I specifically stated all this because the trinity is usually ment in the sence that they are all one mind, one being. Jesus is God walking on the earth, holy ghost is God in spirit form and so on. But this would not be the case because Jesus specifically prayed directly to God many times.

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Cowboy..you have already admited that for some odd reason you are unable to use your "Free WIll" to stop knowingly sinning for Satan......so wouldn't this mean that Jesus should ampute you off his right foot ..or at least kick you with it

yes and no lol. Yes as a direct rule this applies. But as our God is a forgiving God then no. God knows that people are just that, human people. We will make mistakes trip and stumble. But this does not mean you can go around sinning and be like it's ok God will forgive me. Life is a growing and progressing experience. We sin, we should then seek forgiveness and strength not to do so again. That is why our God is a forgiveing God because if all our sins counted against us there would be no way into heaven after a person's life and all the sins. That's also where the conscence plays it's part. You steal something, and on your way home with the stolen object you start to feel guilty that you did so. Thus then you can ask for forgiveness and not do it again, this is when it's marked off as you never did it because you learned and grew from your mistake.

Again God understands that we will stumble, but this DOES NOT give anyone a right to go around sinning with the mind set doesn't matter God will forgive me if i ask. Because this then makes the asking for forgiveness in vein and not true heartidly searched for.

Regardless of our actions God knows where our heart lays. If we truely are just stumbling we will be forgiven. But if we're doing evil actions with the thought of asking forgiveness ahead of time then i do not believe we will be forgiven, because the asking would be in vein would be in a sence like premeditated sinning if you want to call it that.

So it all boils down to where your heart truely is, are you truely trying your best to live like God wants us to and trying to get stronger or are you doing the bare nessentials and continuousely asking forgiveness of the same sins over and over.

Cowboy...make up your mind ....it's either yes or no

mr Funches,,,,,,let me ask you something.

Why? Why are YOU HERE,,,I mean HERE as in ON HERE???



WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR HERE?????





Blind are we to see, all that we do.
As we lead so many in your name, to YOU!




YOUR reasons may differ in YOUR mind as to mine.
BUT TRULY OUR LORD HAS YOU ON HIS PAYROLL!!!!!!!




YOUR negativeness to accept, and to debate,,,,PLEASE DUDE???lol





LOOK DEEP IN YOU,,,,,and you will find more uncertainties. lol








OPEN YOUR HEART,and YOU will find,GOD!!!!!







YOU SPEAK,,,,,,only HERE! YOUR questions only make MORE AWARE!



You've been bond, it hurt, you gave-up,yet you read.
inside your felling almost dead, yet,
THIS PLACE HERE,,,,,,IS EVERYTHING IN YOUR HEAD!!!!!


YOU be YOUR JUDGE!!!! ASK and REASON with your self?


The answer's will be SEEN,,,,wink, TRUE THAT MAN!!!!!


GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL WHO CANNOT SEE,,
FOR YOU ARE THE REASON AND HOPE FOR MORE TO BE!!!
LOOKING FOR HE, AND LOVING OUR GOD SO TENDERLY.

Thanks man.....

I'm here studying religious delusion ...and example of this is Cowboy's yes or no answer ...

"iam4u"....so now why are you here.....I mean here as in on here and not in the Christian singles forum

why do the religious ask people why they are in a religion forum

do scientist ask people why they are in the science forum
do philosophers ask people why they are in the philosophy forum
do little elves ask people why they are in the little elves forum

but yet the religious have some need to ask people why they are in the religion forum ....

could it possible be that I'm here debating religion?

now do you see what I mean about studying religious delusion

and what do you gain by debating relgions?

the same that I would gain from debating science, philosophy or little elves

also you still didn't answer that yes or no question ...since you admit that you sometimes follow Satan into heatheness temptation...should Jesus amputate you off his right foot

and remember.... Jesus can't heal an amputee

Cowboy...so is it yes or no? .....

yes if i continued to do the same sinful actions over and over and over till i died and never tried to not do as such i would be amputated and cast into the lake of fire along with everyone else that did as such.

Cowboy....yes if you continue to sin??????.....even your answer is an indication that you refuse to stop following Satan into heathousness ...that is why I asked you if Satan should amputate you off his right foot right now....at this exact moment...at this exact point in time ...

Cowboy....yes or no

Satan amputate me off his right foot? o.O rofl that's exactly what he wouldn't want to do. That would insinuate that i follow and worship Satan. And you have absolutely no proof or evidence to support your defence there, you have absolutely no clue if i sin or not. You don't listen very well either funches no wonder you don't believe in God. I have said many times in the past that our lives are a time to strengthen ourselves to doing God's will. No one is born perfect we are all born sinners. We grow through our lives to gain perfection. If someone can steal an object and not feel bad or remorse for doing as such does not have God with them by choice, but if someone for some reason steals an object and feels guilty that they should not have done as such has God with them by choice. That is when that person will learn from that feeling and not do that again.

Cowboy ...you are the one that admitted that you continue to use your "Free Will" to knowingly commit heatheness sin...so it your own words that is the proof that you are on the right foot of Satan...and because of you Satan is hooked to the right foot of Jesus....

so again....do you love Jesus enough to allow him to cut you off his right foot right now

yes or no?

Is he related to Jessie James?

I do not believe he left out that much that he had.. But he definately being the King said what was going to be changed..Thats a fact...Blessings...Miles