Topic: acceptance
Foliel's photo
Sun 01/24/10 05:57 PM
Is there any religion out there pagan or otherwise, that will accept people for who they are not for who they want them to be?

centered's photo
Sun 01/24/10 06:33 PM
Edited by centered on Sun 01/24/10 07:15 PM

Is there any religion out there pagan or otherwise, that will accept people for who they are not for who they want them to be?


I'd have to say, Buddhism.

[...]
"The Buddha exhorts his disciples to depend on themselves
for their deliverance, for both purity and defilement depend
on oneself. Clarifying his relationship with his followers and
emphasizing the importance of self-reliance and individual
striving, the Buddha plainly states: "You should exert yourselves,
the Tathagatas[2] are only teachers." The Buddhas point out
the path, and it is left for us to follow that path to obtain
our purification.

To depend on others for salvation is negative, but to depend
on oneself is positive." Dependence on others means a surrender
of one's effort. In exhorting his disciples to be self-dependent
the Buddha says in the Parinibbana Sutta: "Be ye islands unto
yourselves, be ye a refuge unto yourselves, seek not for refuge
in others." These significant words are self-elevating. They reveal
how vital is self-exertion to accomplish one's object and, how
superficial and futile it is to seek redemption through benignant
saviors and to crave for illusory happiness in an after life through
the propitiation of imaginary Gods or by irresponsive prayers
and meaningless sacrifices."
[...]

http://www.buddhanet.net/nutshell01.htm

Foliel's photo
Sun 01/24/10 07:04 PM


Is there any religion out there pagan or otherwise, that will accept people for who they are not for who they want them to be?


I'd have to say, Buddhism.

[...]
"The Buddha exhorts his disciples to depend on themselves
for their deliverance, for both purity and defilement depend
on oneself. Clarifying his relationship with his followers and
emphasizing the importance of self-reliance and individual
striving, the Buddha plainly states: "You should exert yourselves,
the Tathagatas[2] are only teachers." The Buddhas point out
the path, and it is left for us to follow that path to obtain
our purification.

To depend on others for salvation is negative, but to depend
on oneself is positive." Dependence on others means a surrender
of one's effort. In exhorting his disciples to be self-dependent
the Buddha says in the Parinibbana Sutta: "Be ye islands unto
yourselves, be ye a refuge unto yourselves, seek not for refuge
in others." These significant words are self-elevating. They reveal
how vital is self-exertion to accomplish one's object and, how
superficial and futile it is to seek redemption through benignant
saviors and to crave for illusory happiness in an after life through
the propitiation of imaginary Gods or by irresponsive prayers
and meaningless sacrifices."
[...]

http://www.buddhanet.net/nutshell01.htm



I will have to look into this then

EquusDancer's photo
Mon 01/25/10 12:24 AM
There's snobbery in all types of religions/spiritual viewpoints. You have to decide if the belief itself is more important then the people involved.

That's why I'm solitary, even as an eclectic shamanic practitioner. I have no interest in listening to people fuss about how things should be done. I do what works for me.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 01/25/10 05:59 AM

Is there any religion out there pagan or otherwise, that will accept people for who they are not for who they want them to be?


It's not the religion, although some religions require you to be a certain kind of person, but not all do.

The problem with organized religion is the people. ED already stated it pretty well. I am also solitary for the most part although I occasionally participate in group ritual when the mood strikes me. I generally keep my distance though.

I really hope you find your path and you can always email me if you ever have questions or want to talk about it. flowerforyou