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Topic: Marijuna
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Thu 01/14/10 12:52 PM


I will not state an opinion either way for legalization... however, driving under the influence of marijuana... isn't that much different than driving while intoxicated. And YES there has been accidents with people under the influence of marijuana.

If it was decriminalized, there would probably be laws restricted driving while under the influence... it's just harder to detect levels.


In Michigan the cops do swab tests if they think you're driving high. No joke.


You will also spend the night in jail if they suspect that you are high.

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Thu 01/14/10 01:53 PM




Weed can cause lung cancer 6 times faster than tobacco.


please post links to studies that support this claim

and plz make them from the last 10 years

i would like to read recent info on the true effects



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070731085550.htm



from link

Seventy five people smoked only cannabis, and 91 smoked both. Eighty one people did not smoke either, and 92 smoked only tobacco.


sorry that is not a large enough segment to prove the claim

the link also says

The researchers base their findings on 339 adults up to the age of 70,


were the 70 year olds the cannabus smokers??????

imo this is not worthy study --- with sch a small number it would be to easy to manipulate the group dynamics to get any result you wish ----- you could probably find enough that smoke neither tobacco nor pot with lung issues to try and point out that not smoking hurts your lungs if you want to use such a small group


but hey

what do i know

My point of the link is that it is off the SAME website you quoted as saying marijuana wasn't bad.slaphead

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 01/14/10 03:49 PM
everyone who has ever smoked marijuana is going to die

but then so is everyone who hasn't

adj4u's photo
Thu 01/14/10 05:35 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 01/14/10 05:37 PM





Weed can cause lung cancer 6 times faster than tobacco.


please post links to studies that support this claim

and plz make them from the last 10 years

i would like to read recent info on the true effects



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070731085550.htm



from link

Seventy five people smoked only cannabis, and 91 smoked both. Eighty one people did not smoke either, and 92 smoked only tobacco.


sorry that is not a large enough segment to prove the claim

the link also says

The researchers base their findings on 339 adults up to the age of 70,


were the 70 year olds the cannabus smokers??????

imo this is not worthy study --- with sch a small number it would be to easy to manipulate the group dynamics to get any result you wish ----- you could probably find enough that smoke neither tobacco nor pot with lung issues to try and point out that not smoking hurts your lungs if you want to use such a small group


but hey

what do i know

My point of the link is that it is off the SAME website you quoted as saying marijuana wasn't bad.slaphead




now you must be smoking something

i never quoted a website other than yours(in this thread)

frustrated drinker

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 01/14/10 05:54 PM




Should it just be legalized overall. I believe it should be because it does not kill anyone like alchol does.You take a drink go behind a wheel and u can instantly kill someone. You take a few puffs and get high and your fine.I am not saying i smoke i just saying i am for it. LEgalize it overall and put the cops back to chasing murders rapists and other degenerates and criminals.


Oh ffs.

It STILL has an effect on your motor functions. It slows your thought processes.

Do you SERIOUSLY think getting behind the wheel while stoned is any better than having a few drinks??


Actually, more or less...it is. Not that I promote driving while under the influence of anything nor do I drive under the influence. But marijuana only really slows your reaction time, and that is dependent on amount used and tolerance buildup to the chemicals. Alcohol on the other hand slows your reaction time, blurs your vision, and can do it in fewer than three drinks. Not to mention the number of fatalities to drunk drivers versus that of stoned drivers, really, there is an abundant of evidence showing alcohol to be far worse on motor functions than that of marijuana.

Having said that though, I like weed where it is currently. Not too illegal but not quite fully legal either, it is a good median.


I understand where you are coming from, D.

But...

The fact is that there are an awful lot of " distracted " drivers out there on the roads.

Being under the influence of anything that slows your reaction times is foolish at best.


Of course, and I don't deny that. I have pretty much always said that no matter what it is you do, whether it be drinking, smoking, or some other substance...do it responsibly. I do not condone driving while under the influence of anything, but comperatively speaking...yes, marijuana is safer than alcohol.

Just let the states deal with it at their level, it is making headway that way. Decriminalized is the way to go, otherwise they will tax the hell out of it and charge more for a quarter...we don't want that, do we?

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Thu 01/14/10 06:18 PM


Should it just be legalized overall. I believe it should be because it does not kill anyone like alchol does.You take a drink go behind a wheel and u can instantly kill someone. You take a few puffs and get high and your fine.I am not saying i smoke i just saying i am for it. Legalize it overall and put the cops back to chasing murders rapists and other degenerates and criminals.



I think it should be neither promoted or condemned. Im all for decrimininalization. People shouldnt be behind bars for it, but it would be dangerous for our society to actually SUPPORT its use by legalizing it.


I strongly agree with this statement. And the same for tobacco and alcohol and maybe some other substances. I would love to see a ban on the marketing of these products in any publicly visible space, but people should be free to produce and use these items.

A side effect of the laws against pot is a thriving underground network of communities. If pot goes the way of the tobacco (buy it at 7-11), we will lose that. It saddens me. Yet, we certainly should not be wasting jail/prison space for any convictions related to pot!

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Thu 01/14/10 06:24 PM

Having said that though, I like weed where it is currently. Not too illegal but not quite fully legal either, it is a good median.


d'accord

if I get pulled over and have in my posession a small amount for personal use then its a citation like a traffic fine

if I get pulled over and have 50 lbs then its serious. but then I have no business having 50 lbs of marijuana

if it becomes too legal then the corporations will get involved and ruin the whole thing


Exactly!

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Thu 01/14/10 07:40 PM



Should it just be legalized overall. I believe it should be because it does not kill anyone like alchol does.You take a drink go behind a wheel and u can instantly kill someone. You take a few puffs and get high and your fine.I am not saying i smoke i just saying i am for it. Legalize it overall and put the cops back to chasing murders rapists and other degenerates and criminals.



I think it should be neither promoted or condemned. Im all for decrimininalization. People shouldnt be behind bars for it, but it would be dangerous for our society to actually SUPPORT its use by legalizing it.


I strongly agree with this statement. And the same for tobacco and alcohol and maybe some other substances. I would love to see a ban on the marketing of these products in any publicly visible space, but people should be free to produce and use these items.




Thank you, I am amazed that people don't get this, we as a society glorify and promote a narcotic drug (alcohol) to children constantly then argue that legalizing marijuana would promote it's use by children. No one would be FOR advertising it during college sports (for example) would they? I think not then why do we allow alcohol to be advertised at all? It's bizzare really.

Amazingly half the alcohol that kids get are from there own parents, the average age of first us is now 12 yearas old...WHO are the ones getting our children addicted before they can even graduate from HS?

Are parents THAT stupid? I guess so...or since many are "social drinkers" they think they can ignore and justify their own narcotic drug use or addiction by getting their kids high on it.

IF and when we legalize pot there should be major restrictions on advertising it and harsh penalties for anyone...including parents who would supply it to children.

Please sign this petition, it may have new life with a few here.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/ban-alcohol-advertising-in-the-usa.html

The truth about alcohol...cheers!

www.alcoholthenarcotic.org









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