anyone else have this issue? my kids are fine however every holiday when it involves my dear mother and dear brother there is bickering.. and they have to involve everyone else especially me.. i cant even shop without getting a phone call of gripeing about the other one.. the poor pitty me syndrome.. she did this he did that.. my gawd! its days before either thanksgiving or christmas for the last 5 yrs.. though i tell them i dont want to hear it, its between them they still call.. i swear! omg! its like 6 calls per day about this garbage crap! i would honestly rather spend my holidays alone! i literly get tired and stressed and fall asleep because all of this.. i am so tired of the same issues of hearing them for 5 yrs straight.. i dont mind hearing something 2 times even but 5 yrs of crap that stems from the same issue? i only want to go for my kids and sadly to say id back out if it werent for them.. im gonna let my kids know that no more can i tollerate it.. all the whinning of oh im not gonna go because he did this or that,, or vise versa.. i am done of others trying to make my holidays miserable because they are miserable people.. i think next year ill turn my phone off 4 days before a holiday..the even drag my kids in the drama.. i taught my kids to respect family.. this is why they put up with it as well i wonder if i did the wrong thing... help! what would you do and have you been in this situation yourself? please share..

actually this goes on all yr round... but i just want the holidays to be loving and peaceful is that too much to ask for? mostly my kids get drug into it around the holidays

An so you needed a place to Rant an rave!
So rant on,an express your feeling!
Peace be with!

Not much pity here
We all have something to deal with these day's.
You Think

Drink lots and lots of alcohol,it makes even my family barable.....

That's why I spent my holidays with my kids only...I feel no obligation to be around any family or anyone else who is a pain in the azz all through the holiday. I know, I know...family is important...my family is so dysfunctional and I choose not to be with them. My sanity and the well being of myself and my children is important too.
I have been where you are...I told them to grow up, get a grip and keep me out of it....

Good Luck to ya with all that.

bites you in the a** the next DAY!!!

im not ranting honestly im to the point of i really wonder just what to do here is all.. its quite embarrasing honestly.. i dont know what else to do.. seems i have tried everything ps lmao! pity is not what im lookig for.. btw.. my brother is single would u like his number? lol!

It's all i shall say

i tried that one yr for one holiday did not work.. for there are more than one to come lol! it just fixes the problem for that day is all...

so what did u do ive tried telling them that.. just not my kids now they are grown i think ill tell them this but after the holidays.. i dont want to make it worse for them.. i do think at 18,23,25 its time to have that discussion with them.. and i know they know that i am not like my mother or brother still i honestly dont even want to be associated at all with them anymore.. and still yet my kids are adults i do like to set examples so im not sure how to approach them with this feeling i have... do you shut your phone off? and just turn it on to call your kids?

OHHH IDK.....spending your holidays alone is no picnic either. I am living it right now as I type this. Literally by myself & of course my cat. It's lonely but I'm trying to treat it as "just another day"

Hopefully one day your mother and brother will see the light and put all thier bickering behind them.

awww cat if i lived near ya id love to spend the holiday with you! and i have before several times and honestly it is better this i know.
and this i do agree hopefully they do.. but till then.. what do u think i should do other that what i have tried to do in the past that didnt work? because really 5 yrs is enough... i dont want to be around them or hear from them till they pan things out..

..take it from someone who has been down this road all his life,you can't change them,they can only change themselves..you will only waste your time and your heart will pay the severe penalty.... ..i know..

this is what im talking about i have realized that so what did u do?

Have been there done the family thing......too much drama for me


So now I do my own thing and it seems to be working for me so far


Good Luck

its almost as if i am a black sheep.. everything i have ever done although i know not perfect by far.. but to get where i am in life. the pick apart my life and find negative about everything.. preach me and never compliment me on anything good or acomplishments i have made, because they both live miserable and choose to be that way.. i look for positive things to learn from them.. sure i have had negative things in my life and much worse than they had.. but i move on.. and take the possitive to guide me.. i dont get it lol

thanks.. this is what im thinking.. i just dont want to disclude others whom do not do this.. as my kids.. so i am gonna sit them down i guess and let them know.. for i havent really shared a whole lot to them about this.. some.. but not the part where its time for me to cut loose... <from the drama>

well hey one down two to go lol!! my oldest daughter called me.. doesnt like the lil drama she is getting. she brought it up lol

you know its funny because am 20 and i was brought up to love and support my family no matter what, and as i got older i realized why my parents taught me that the rest of my family is nuts!!! haha Anyway it is said that friends are only their for the good and not the bad times and family will always be there. But arent they suppose to be there in a supportive and non critizing way, anyway i wont go on explaining the story but my uncle (moms brother) critized my dad about loosing his company recently and said some very mean and degrading comments and my mom fought back and we left the party, mind you all this during christmas eve dinner. And in the car she tells me "now i understand why you dont want anybody knowing your busy and although i respected your choice i never agreed but now i do" anyway i swear some times its so much better and nicer to hang out with friends than family speacially when they critize everything you do good and bad, and dont appreciate the things that you have done for them.IN CONCLUSION TO ALL MY FRIENDS ON THIS SITE WHY COULDNT YOU COME TO FLORIDA AND WE WOULD HAVE SPENT CHRISTMAS EVE WITH A BOTTLE AND LAUGHS HAHA MERRY CHRISTMAS GUYS AND I HOPE ITS GOING BETTER THAN MINE. :)

Without going into a bunch of detail here...I just don't have anything to do with some of my family members. I don't dislike them, they are just not people who enhance my life. I cleaned house along time ago...so to speak. If I'm around someone and I don't like the way I feel with them, I just don't put myself in a position where I am around them. I don't care who it is...
selfish, harsh..maybe to some. At my age, I get to pick who I expend my energy on, plain and simple.