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Topic: 100 Reasons Climate Change is Natural
willing2's photo
Tue 12/15/09 05:12 PM


Tell Gore to lead by example. I am more conservative about cutting back and preserving than he is.

His house could house 50 or 60 more people.

I bet the heat or air stays on 24/7 in his house and offices.



For anyone to claim that Gore is not leading by example, and that they are doing more than Gore is, would in effect mean that they are equipped with
... a solar panel roof,
... that they have contracted for a GeoThermal heating and cooling system (0 emission),
... that they have a rain water collection for irrigation and water management, and
... that their home meets the LEED standards???

If that is not leading by example, I don't know what is?!?!?!

Here are them facts:

'... Al Gore's home, which has been undergoing renovations for months, now boasts a solar roof. When his neighborhood in Tennessee changed zoning laws earlier this year, Gore was able to go ahead with the solar panel installation. You can read about the details of the battle to get the solar panels installed here. Gore is now preparing to install a geothermal system that will drastically reduce the cost of heating in his home. Other renovations on the house are aimed at meeting the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, or LEED, standards established by the U.S. Green Building Council. He is upgrading windows and ductwork, installing more energy-efficient light bulbs and creating a rainwater collection system for irrigation and water management...'

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/06/al_gore_gets_a.php#ch02

Why bother if most of the world will be under water in the next couple three years?slaphead rofl rofl

Here ya' go on some stats.

What does Al Gore drive?

Global warming continues to be the hottest (excuse me) topic in letters to the editor at the Idaho Statesman. Richard Renstrom of Caldwell wrote this one published in today's paper:

I live in a 1,500-square-foot home. Al Gore lives in a 10,000-square-foot home. My electric bill is $26 per month. Al Gore's bill is $1,200. My electricity comes from non-carbon hydro power. Gore's comes from a coal-fired power plant. I drive a 40 mpg Toyota Camry. Gore drives a 10 mpg Ford Expedition.

I do not own a swimming pool. Al Gore spends $500 a month on natural gas to heat his swimming pool.

I haven't been on an airplane in 40 years. Gore regularly flies on a plane that consumes 10,000 gallons of fossil fuel to get him from coast to coast. I walk 1,500 miles each year. From the looks of Gore's waistline, he doesn't walk at all.

Gore gets an Oscar for his film on global warming. Hollywood is truly the land of phony people. I think I will vomit.

Images1_4 Hmmm. Well, first of all, Richard, you definitely are doing your part to combat global warming, and that's great. Living in a small home, driving a 40 mpg car, and walking 1,500 miles a year are all admirable traits. I'm not so sure I applaud your not having been on an airplane in 40 years. There's a lot of world to see beyond Caldwell.

According to the great rumor-control site Snopes.com, it sadly turns out that the Gores' house does use way more energy than most American homes (but that they are working to reduce its energy footprint). But I seriously wonder where Renstrom got his claim that Gore drives a Ford Expedition. Here's what he told CNN's Larry King last year:

I drive a hybrid. Tipper and I got a Lexus hybrid. And we have a couple of Priuses in the family with our children. And I encourage people to make environmentally conscious choices because we all have to solve this climate crisis.

One more note: the memo about the Gores' home energy use, widely circulated on the Internet, was released a couple weeks after Gore's Oscar victory - by the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. The TCPR describes itself as "an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions." Emphasis mine, because those last four words are telling. It looks like the national smear campaign against Gore is less about global warming or even the Gores' hypocrisy and more about Club for Growth-style politics in which no tax is a good tax and businesses should be entirely free of government regulation.


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Tue 12/15/09 05:28 PM

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/146138

Here are the first 7...

HERE are the 100 reasons, released in a dossier issued by the European Foundation, why climate change is natural and not man-made:

1) There is “no real scientific proof” that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from man’s activity.

2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.

3) Warmer periods of the Earth’s history came around 800 years before rises in CO2 levels.

4) After World War II, there was a huge surge in recorded CO2 emissions but global temperatures fell for four decades after 1940.

5) Throughout the Earth’s history, temperatures have often been warmer than now and CO2 levels have often been higher – more than ten times as high.

6) Significant changes in climate have continually occurred throughout geologic time.

7) The 0.7C increase in the average global temperature over the last hundred years is entirely consistent with well-established, long-term, natural climate trends.


Another infamous THINKTANK of so-called scientists and politicians, offering the whole world their holier than thou PERSONAL OPINIONS.

'... The EUROPEAN FOUNDATION, an international think tank comprised of European scientists and politicians, has issued a dossier specifying 100 reasons why Climate Change is natural and not manmade...'

You cannot oppose an overwhelming body of 'defended' and 'converging' scientific papers with PERSONAL OPINIONS.
The fact that one might be a 'scientist' or 'politician' does not make one's personal opinion any more credible, unless it is founded on pertinent scientific data and analyses, which the scientist is then willing to defend in front of scientific peers.

My personal '100 reasons' carry the EXACT SAME WEIGHT as the think-tank mentioned above: NONE!!!

MiddleEarthling's photo
Tue 12/15/09 05:28 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp


willing2's photo
Tue 12/15/09 05:32 PM
This belongs here as well;

Al Gored by his own scientist.

At the Copenhagen climate circle jerk, Al Gore, who's ripped off millions, from millions of liberals, says this "These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr. [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years."

So, of course, DR. Maslowski was asked about this and replied: "It's unclear to me how this figure was arrived at, I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this."

Gore's office later admitted that the 75 percent figure was one used by Dr. Maslowski as a "ballpark figure" several years ago in a conversation with Gore. So much for "fresh figures" huh ?

Several, as in at least three years ago means the icecap only has two to three more years to be melted.

Wut a bunch of dumb-a$$ gore believers. Can't even add or subtract.slaphead
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/15/09 07:06 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 12/15/09 07:08 PM


Tell Gore to lead by example. I am more conservative about cutting back and preserving than he is.

His house could house 50 or 60 more people.

I bet the heat or air stays on 24/7 in his house and offices.



For anyone to claim that Gore is not leading by example, and that they are doing more than Gore is, would in effect mean that they are equipped with
... a solar panel roof,
... that they have contracted for a GeoThermal heating and cooling system (0 emission),
... that they have a rain water collection for irrigation and water management, and
... that their home meets the LEED standards???

If that is not leading by example, I don't know what is?!?!?!

Here are them facts:

'... Al Gore's home, which has been undergoing renovations for months, now boasts a solar roof. When his neighborhood in Tennessee changed zoning laws earlier this year, Gore was able to go ahead with the solar panel installation. You can read about the details of the battle to get the solar panels installed here. Gore is now preparing to install a geothermal system that will drastically reduce the cost of heating in his home. Other renovations on the house are aimed at meeting the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, or LEED, standards established by the U.S. Green Building Council. He is upgrading windows and ductwork, installing more energy-efficient light bulbs and creating a rainwater collection system for irrigation and water management...'

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/06/al_gore_gets_a.php#ch02


The attitude of all these backyard climate sceptics is explained in many of my threads over the last day or so, but never more so in the one titled, "It's All A Conspiracy"!

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/259357

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Tue 12/15/09 08:21 PM
Edited by voileazur on Tue 12/15/09 08:23 PM



Tell Gore to lead by example. I am more conservative about cutting back and preserving than he is.

His house could house 50 or 60 more people.

I bet the heat or air stays on 24/7 in his house and offices.



For anyone to claim that Gore is not leading by example, and that they are doing more than Gore is, would in effect mean that they are equipped with
... a solar panel roof,
... that they have contracted for a GeoThermal heating and cooling system (0 emission),
... that they have a rain water collection for irrigation and water management, and
... that their home meets the LEED standards???

If that is not leading by example, I don't know what is?!?!?!

Here are them facts:

'... Al Gore's home, which has been undergoing renovations for months, now boasts a solar roof. When his neighborhood in Tennessee changed zoning laws earlier this year, Gore was able to go ahead with the solar panel installation. You can read about the details of the battle to get the solar panels installed here. Gore is now preparing to install a geothermal system that will drastically reduce the cost of heating in his home. Other renovations on the house are aimed at meeting the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, or LEED, standards established by the U.S. Green Building Council. He is upgrading windows and ductwork, installing more energy-efficient light bulbs and creating a rainwater collection system for irrigation and water management...'

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/06/al_gore_gets_a.php#ch02


The attitude of all these backyard climate sceptics is explained in many of my threads over the last day or so, but never more so in the one titled, "It's All A Conspiracy"!

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/259357


Impressive string of threads my friend!

And this bullet from "It's All A Conspiracy!", cannot be repeated often enough:

'... If you believe that tens of thousands of scientists (97,5%) are colluding in a massive conspiracy, nothing anyone can say is likely to dissuade you ...'

Fanta46's photo
Tue 12/15/09 08:26 PM




Tell Gore to lead by example. I am more conservative about cutting back and preserving than he is.

His house could house 50 or 60 more people.

I bet the heat or air stays on 24/7 in his house and offices.



For anyone to claim that Gore is not leading by example, and that they are doing more than Gore is, would in effect mean that they are equipped with
... a solar panel roof,
... that they have contracted for a GeoThermal heating and cooling system (0 emission),
... that they have a rain water collection for irrigation and water management, and
... that their home meets the LEED standards???

If that is not leading by example, I don't know what is?!?!?!

Here are them facts:

'... Al Gore's home, which has been undergoing renovations for months, now boasts a solar roof. When his neighborhood in Tennessee changed zoning laws earlier this year, Gore was able to go ahead with the solar panel installation. You can read about the details of the battle to get the solar panels installed here. Gore is now preparing to install a geothermal system that will drastically reduce the cost of heating in his home. Other renovations on the house are aimed at meeting the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, or LEED, standards established by the U.S. Green Building Council. He is upgrading windows and ductwork, installing more energy-efficient light bulbs and creating a rainwater collection system for irrigation and water management...'

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/06/al_gore_gets_a.php#ch02


The attitude of all these backyard climate sceptics is explained in many of my threads over the last day or so, but never more so in the one titled, "It's All A Conspiracy"!

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/259357


Impressive string of threads my friend!

And this bullet from "It's All A Conspiracy!", cannot be repeated often enough:

'... If you believe that tens of thousands of scientists (97,5%) are colluding in a massive conspiracy, nothing anyone can say is likely to dissuade you ...'


:wink: :thumbsup:

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Tue 12/15/09 08:35 PM
Carbon tax is a'comin. Facts don't matter to them

cashu's photo
Wed 12/16/09 07:20 PM

But can someone list even TEN ways that it hurts any of us to conserve natural energy sources and live less gluttonous lives?

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I can't think of 1 rich pig that hasn't lived better than me . Let alone 10 . I plan to live as high as I can til I catch up with the pigs that caused this recession . and if I can get a young girl I't going to creatate 25 more kids .

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