Topic: Senate votes to keep long-term care program
Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/04/09 02:04 PM
WASHINGTON – The Senate has voted to keep a new long-term care insurance plan in its health overhaul bill.

Republicans fell short in a bid to strike the voluntary insurance plan on a 51-to-47 vote. Sixty votes were needed to prevail.

A priority for the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the program would help seniors and disabled people stay in their own homes and avoid going into nursing homes.

Workers would pay a modest monthly premium during the course of their careers. If they become disabled, they get a cash benefit of at least $50 a day. It can pay for a home care attendant, for supplies and equipment, to make home improvements such as new bathroom railings or defray nursing home costs.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091204/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul

Is there a pattern to the Republican's votes?


Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/04/09 02:18 PM
I think the pattern is that the Republicans are voting along the Insurance lobbyist wishes.
And,
There isn't a lick of concern for the people of America or their wishes.
Be they young, old, poor, or desperate.

willing2's photo
Fri 12/04/09 02:26 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 12/04/09 02:27 PM
A super-rich, drunk, bloated, left the woman to die, career bribe-taker.
What would Ted Kennedy know about modest?slaphead Enlighten us, how much is modest??

Wet-brained Kennedy ASSumed all seniors and disabled folks own their homes.

They're real quick to state the "modest" daily amount your disability will get ya'. $1,500.00, before the Medicare deduction, a month just might git'cha a basement studio apt in da Ghetto! Yay!! Wut a deal!!!rofl rofl rofl

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/04/09 02:30 PM

A super-rich, drunk, bloated, left the woman to die, career bribe-taker.
What would Ted Kennedy know about modest?slaphead Enlighten us, how much is modest??

Wet-brained Kennedy ASSumed all seniors and disabled folks own their homes.

They're real quick to state the "modest" daily amount your disability will get ya'. $1,500.00, before the Medicare deduction, a month just might git'cha a basement studio apt in da Ghetto! Yay!! Wut a deal!!!rofl rofl rofl


I guess in your logic nothing is better?

willing2's photo
Fri 12/04/09 02:36 PM


A super-rich, drunk, bloated, left the woman to die, career bribe-taker.
What would Ted Kennedy know about modest?slaphead Enlighten us, how much is modest??

Wet-brained Kennedy ASSumed all seniors and disabled folks own their homes.

They're real quick to state the "modest" daily amount your disability will get ya'. $1,500.00, before the Medicare deduction, a month just might git'cha a basement studio apt in da Ghetto! Yay!! Wut a deal!!!rofl rofl rofl


I guess in your logic nothing is better?

Enlighten us, how much is modest??

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/04/09 02:52 PM
Is that question, without an answer to the previous question, called side-stepping?

Do you consider nothing better?

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Fri 12/04/09 03:22 PM


..the only way the American public is going to get any real help,is when they start helping each other..with as much money that goes towards paying insurance..if they all banded together as one,the buying power and the political power would be enough to crush those who possess the power..because without the American public they have no power...we are the power..it's time we started taking it back..jmo...smokin

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/04/09 04:18 PM
Public Option.

I'm with you there tombraider, and so are most Americans.drinker

willing2's photo
Fri 12/04/09 04:44 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 12/04/09 04:45 PM
I still wanna' know what is the number on this modest pay-in price and why they didn't include that number also..

Fanta46's photo
Fri 12/04/09 08:40 PM

I still wanna' know what is the number on this modest pay-in price and why they didn't include that number also..


It's in the article willing.
Use the link.

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 12/04/09 10:19 PM
Edited by AdventureBegins on Fri 12/04/09 10:20 PM



..the only way the American public is going to get any real help,is when they start helping each other..with as much money that goes towards paying insurance..if they all banded together as one,the buying power and the political power would be enough to crush those who possess the power..because without the American public they have no power...we are the power..it's time we started taking it back..jmo...smokin

The only REAL public option.
Edit; I have to add that its the only REAL public option that congress and the senate have no vote in... ONLY US.

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Fri 12/04/09 10:47 PM
Workers would pay a modest monthly premium during the course of their careers. If they become disabled, they get a cash benefit of at least $50 a day. It can pay for a home care attendant, for supplies and equipment, to make home improvements such as new bathroom railings or defray nursing home costs.

Well I wonder what the "modest" monthly premuim would be since it is going to cost a lot more than 50 bucks aday to keep a senior in their own home. .Just went through it for 3 years with my grandfather. It cost a lot more than the pittance.

no photo
Fri 12/04/09 11:05 PM
Darn.. I thought this was a good discussion....Go Figure! noway

sun_devil_92's photo
Fri 12/04/09 11:26 PM
As a further safeguard, the Senate voted to ensure that funds collected under the plan would only be used to pay out benefits — and not to cover other government obligations.

The last I checked, they can't even do this for Social Security. Currently, the Social Security fund holds $2.4 trillion in government bonds.

Oh well ... this is as good of an excuse as any to increase the general fund and unload government bonds onto another trust ...

willing2's photo
Sat 12/05/09 06:10 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 12/05/09 06:19 AM

Darn.. I thought this was a good discussion....Go Figure! noway

Well there, you hot lil' Mamma. If you want it to keep going, you keep showin' your face!!!:wink: :tongue: flowerforyou

willing2's photo
Sat 12/05/09 06:18 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 12/05/09 06:21 AM

Workers would pay a modest monthly premium during the course of their careers. If they become disabled, they get a cash benefit of at least $50 a day. It can pay for a home care attendant, for supplies and equipment, to make home improvements such as new bathroom railings or defray nursing home costs.

Well I wonder what the "modest" monthly premuim would be since it is going to cost a lot more than 50 bucks aday to keep a senior in their own home. .Just went through it for 3 years with my grandfather. It cost a lot more than the pittance.

Ya' see. That's the thing about Hussein and his band of Czars are wanting us to pick that shell with not using numbers just the word "modest",(actually, Politicians have been playin' that shell game for years and Hussein ain't that good at it.)

Really, what does modest mean to fat-a$$ career paid-off senators mean? Premium of 4, $500. a month?

Remember, we still have to make sure they get their guaranteed yearly$4,600.00 raise, ta' boot.

Keep in mind how many in Congress aren't crooked.
Ron Paul refused his retirement pay. He'd make a heII of a president.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 12/05/09 04:28 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 12/05/09 04:33 PM

Workers would pay a modest monthly premium during the course of their careers. If they become disabled, they get a cash benefit of at least $50 a day. It can pay for a home care attendant, for supplies and equipment, to make home improvements such as new bathroom railings or defray nursing home costs.

Well I wonder what the "modest" monthly premuim would be since it is going to cost a lot more than 50 bucks aday to keep a senior in their own home. .Just went through it for 3 years with my grandfather. It cost a lot more than the pittance.


Supporters said the program would begin to fill a yawning hole in the social safety net. The cost of nursing homes averages $70,000 a year, and a home care attendant runs about $29 an hour. Medicare only covers temporary nursing home stays. Middle-class households have to exhaust their savings before a senior can qualify for nursing home coverage through Medicaid.

Like I said, it's better than what is there now.
And,
It is a completely voluntary program.