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Topic: Windows Vista
Yelm_Redneck's photo
Wed 06/13/07 11:28 PM
Who knows? Why is the gaming world selling their products showing what
they will run on as a minimum requirement, then the games don't even
work if you are not using at least the recommended requirements?

korangen's photo
Wed 06/13/07 11:33 PM
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The interface is very user friendly. First operating system from
Microsoft you actually don't have to wait for SP 2 (i.e. XP) to come out
to make it function correctly.
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are we talking about the same system?

to run an installer from a shared location that requires a pw, you have
to:
enter the password for the drive
navigate to the location for the executable
double click the executable
RE-ENTER the password for the drive
enter the Admin password (or click allow if you are admin)

I don't see how this is user friendly.

Enable file/print sharing...
3 menus deep
you actually have to click "I accept" 3 times before it lets you enable
folder sharing...and 3 more times to enable printer sharing...and 3 more
times for the other 7 options it has...each.
for XP...it was 2 menus deep...one click, that's it.

that's user annoying...not user friendly to me.

security...well...time will tell.

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Oh I'm sorry that there was something else. thathandsomebrotha, Win
vista does have a 'hard drive killer' built into it, that makes it
almost impossible to install a different earlier version of windows
after a vista install.
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huh???

Drop in XP CD...boot system...select HD, partition and format... (just
did it today...with NO PROBLEM)

you can't downgrade and keep your data on your primary partition...but
you couldn't do that before either.

no photo
Wed 06/13/07 11:47 PM
>> Why is the gaming world selling their products showing what
they will run on as a minimum requirement, then the games don't even
work if you are not using at least the recommended requirements?

Because honesty-in-marketing is only a successful business strategy if
your customers are discerning.

I understand some business people think that dishonesty-in-marketing is
acceptable, if it works. I don't see any way to change that, except to
be discerning myself and encourage others to be likewise.

no photo
Wed 06/13/07 11:50 PM
>> 'hard drive killer' built into it,

Net, I'm confused by your post... were you talking about the way (I
hear, anyway) that Vista casually rewrites the MBR, preventing the use
of other boot managers in the MBR?

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/14/07 08:38 AM
previous post


dual core cpu, 2 x 512 mb sli vcs). It is also running great on a
cheapsystem I built for a couple hundred dollars that has 2 gb ram,
256mb AGP vc. As cheap as ram is why would you want to try to run it on
1 gb ram?

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maybe because they a putting it in machine that are under powered
and selling them as new

if i was gonna but a new machine and did not have a copy of xp

i would by a dell cause ya can still get a machine with xp from them

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i should learn lynix or some other op sys and give up on microsoft

what a ripoff vista is

probably has some kind of spy ware in it for tracking all your actions
for big brother

but hey what do i know

netuserlla's photo
Sat 06/16/07 04:27 AM
Yea mass. It was a pain in the neck for me to install a tri boot system
that included winvista, winxp, and linux.(I'm probly the only person in
the world to try this) It worked great for awhile untill my data started
falling apart.

please allow me to explain....
I had vista ultimate installed on a pc, and wanted to wipe and reformat
the drive and put windows XP pro back on the system. It would not allow
me to reformat with the xp pro disk that I had. I don't know of a
universal hard drive tool that would have helped with the problum. So I
just used one of my many Linux distros to reformat the drive. It wiped
my mbr. Then xp installed with no problem. 'Hard drive killer' is a
popular term being used right now in reference to windows.

Yelm_Redneck's photo
Thu 06/21/07 03:40 AM
Never had that problem, I've switched from Vista back to xp pro with no
problem whatsoever. Strange....

Yelm_Redneck's photo
Thu 06/21/07 03:41 AM
then back to Vista on the same drive.... What gives?

no photo
Thu 06/21/07 04:20 PM
Yelm,

When you say "switch", do you mean "reinstall", or "choose a different
boot option from the boot menu"?


Net,

I'm dual booting vista and and old version of Kanotix with no problem.

Since I've heard other people online complaining of problems similar
to the one Netuserla had, I didn't jump right into to resizing
partitions and installing Kanotix, first I downloaded and used EasyBCD.

EasyBCD Link: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1

Also, I made sure to put a version of Grub in the first sector of the
Kanotix partition - in case the MBR got hosed, I could use a Live CD (or
thumbdrive) to pass boot control directly to that partition.

Oddly enough, another copy of Grub, which I -did- put in the MBR, is
working fine after 2 weeks. Vista hasn't hosed it; I don't know if I'm
being 'protected' by EasyBCD, or if I just have not happened across the
problem which Netuserla and many others have had.

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