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Topic: Before Your Parents Were Born
Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 10/31/09 04:10 PM







Who or what were you and what did you look like
before your parents were born?


The guff?

Question: "What is the guff?"

Answer: The guff is a term the Talmud uses to refer to the repository of all unborn souls. The Talmud is the Jewish commentary on the Torah, or the Old Testament, and especially the first five books of the Bible known as the Pentateuch. Jewish tradition states that the Talmud began as oral teachings handed down from Moses that were eventually completed sometime between the 4th and 2nd century B.C.

Literally, the word "guff" means "body." The Talmud essentially says, "The Messiah will not arrive until there are no more souls in the guff.” The Talmud is saying that there are a certain number of souls in heaven waiting to be born. Until they are born, they wait in a heavenly repository called "the guff," and the Messiah will not arrive until every single one of these souls has been born into the physical world.

Is the idea of “the guff” biblical? No, it is not. Neither the Hebrew Scriptures or the New Testament teach that there is a storehouse of souls in heaven. The Bible does not teach that souls are waiting to be attached to bodies when people are born. The Bible is not explicitly clear on when/how human souls are created, but the concept of the guff does not agree with what the Bible does teach about the origin of the soul. It is far more biblical to hold that God creates each human soul at the moment of conception, or that the human soul is generated along with the body through the physical-spiritual union of conception.






flowerforyou drinker

Should have know you were come in and clarify....ty
Correct in it not being a biblical thing..not at all.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 10/31/09 04:15 PM








Who or what were you and what did you look like
before your parents were born?


The guff?

Question: "What is the guff?"

Answer: The guff is a term the Talmud uses to refer to the repository of all unborn souls. The Talmud is the Jewish commentary on the Torah, or the Old Testament, and especially the first five books of the Bible known as the Pentateuch. Jewish tradition states that the Talmud began as oral teachings handed down from Moses that were eventually completed sometime between the 4th and 2nd century B.C.

Literally, the word "guff" means "body." The Talmud essentially says, "The Messiah will not arrive until there are no more souls in the guff.” The Talmud is saying that there are a certain number of souls in heaven waiting to be born. Until they are born, they wait in a heavenly repository called "the guff," and the Messiah will not arrive until every single one of these souls has been born into the physical world.

Is the idea of “the guff” biblical? No, it is not. Neither the Hebrew Scriptures or the New Testament teach that there is a storehouse of souls in heaven. The Bible does not teach that souls are waiting to be attached to bodies when people are born. The Bible is not explicitly clear on when/how human souls are created, but the concept of the guff does not agree with what the Bible does teach about the origin of the soul. It is far more biblical to hold that God creates each human soul at the moment of conception, or that the human soul is generated along with the body through the physical-spiritual union of conception.






flowerforyou drinker

Should have know you were come in and clarify....ty
Correct in it not being a biblical thing..not at all.


LOL I was guessing...lol

I have no clue if we even have a soul in the traditional sense. I believe we are energy, life energy and it leaves us at our death to join the universe.

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Sat 10/31/09 04:20 PM
Did you see the movie the Seventh Sign with Demi Moore? It talks about the guff in that movie.

centered's photo
Sat 10/31/09 04:22 PM
Who or what were you and what did you look like before your parents were born?


Sperm + egg = physical being, which has consistently worked
for Homo sapiens, exactly as it has worked for the rest of
the animal kingdom.

I was NOT here BEFORE my parents because they did not
conceive me before themselves.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 10/31/09 04:31 PM

Did you see the movie the Seventh Sign with Demi Moore? It talks about the guff in that movie.


No I didn't..what I know of this is more from eastern traditions..Hinduism and Buddhism. Also From The Book of The Dead...the bardo.

Right..we are energy over and over in different forms..right now that form is just a body of flesh, blood and bones..well so much more also.

I have heard that doing DMT is getting as far into the Bardo as you can get without actually dying.. laugh slaphead

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