Topic: The Meaning of Life according to JimNastics
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Thu 10/29/09 09:53 AM
The Meaning of Life (according to JimNastics)

Philosophers have LONGGGGGGGGGGGG debated, what the meaning of our presence here on earth means. Why are we here and what is our purpose ? I'm going to finally solve these ongoing mysteries right here in this blog and right now for all those who embrace it. Now, you may disagree with this and are more than welcomed to do so. There is plenty of room for you to pontificate below.

It's time to face the facts. Life is a very temporary occurrence; about 70 to 120 years maximum, if you are very lucky. There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it. Focus on preserving your health as long as possible, because all the money in the world is less important than your health. You may not agree with that now, but unfortunately, there will come a day, when you fully recognize the truth in these words.

Thus, during this very transient existence, it would be fun to focus on the people and things that you love. If you do that, life will be a tremendous fun filled journey. Do whatever makes you happy, as long as you don't harm others. Don't waste time lamenting about the past or your eventual demise, because frankly you can't do anything about either. Now, don't get me wrong, you can learn from your mistakes and that can be a very good thing and you can delay your demise by preserving and improving your health. However, wasting time in mental misery because of past mistakes is a foolish waste of very precious limited time, our most unreplinishable resource. Instead, having learned your lessons, re-focus on what & who makes you truly happy and avoid those that/who make you unhappy.

The meaning of life is to simply fully experience and appreciate life and all it temporarily offers you. Also, appreciate the luck that you can do so. The fact that you are here at all is sheer blissful luck. You can thank your parents mostly for that. While there will always be those who are better off than you, there also will be many who are much worse off. Regardless, you are a totally unique individual with a mixture of both talents and flaws (just like everyone else bigsmile ). If you can, improve those flaws of yours. It can be done. However, most importantly, utilize and exploit your talents. They are gifts that can enhance your life and others. Where you can, help others.
It will not only leave a lasting positive impression on those that you directly help, but like ripples in a pond will likely indirectly positively affect many others. Indeed, when you help others, ask those you help to help someone else. If when you leave this life, that you have created a net positive effect on the planet, then you have fulfilled your purpose and will be remembered positively. Now go forth & enjoy ! shades :banana: flowerforyou

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Thu 10/29/09 12:28 PM
The Meaning of Life (according to JimNastics)

Philosophers have LONGGGGGGGGGGGG debated, what the meaning of our presence here on earth means. Why are we here and what is our purpose ? I'm going to finally solve these ongoing mysteries right here in this blog and right now for all those who embrace it. Now, you may disagree with this and are more than welcomed to do so. There is plenty of room for you to pontificate below.

It's time to face the facts. Life is a very temporary occurrence; about 70 to 120 years maximum, if you are very lucky. There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it. Focus on preserving your health as long as possible, because all the money in the world is less important than your health. You may not agree with that now, but unfortunately, there will come a day, when you fully recognize the truth in these words.

Thus, during this very transient existence, it would be fun to focus on the people and things that you love. If you do that, life will be a tremendous fun filled journey. Do whatever makes you happy, as long as you don't harm others. Don't waste time lamenting about the past or your eventual demise, because frankly you can't do anything about either. Now, don't get me wrong, you can learn from your mistakes and that can be a very good thing and you can delay your demise by preserving and improving your health. However, wasting time in mental misery because of past mistakes is a foolish waste of very precious limited time, our most unreplinishable resource. Instead, having learned your lessons, re-focus on what & who makes you truly happy and avoid those that/who make you unhappy.

The meaning of life is to simply fully experience and appreciate life and all it temporarily offers you. Also, appreciate the luck that you can do so. The fact that you are here at all is sheer blissful luck. You can thank your parents mostly for that. While there will always be those who are better off than you, there also will be many who are much worse off. Regardless, you are a totally unique individual with a mixture of both talents and flaws (just like everyone else bigsmile ). If you can, improve those flaws of yours. It can be done. However, most importantly, utilize and exploit your talents. They are gifts that can enhance your life and others. Where you can, help others.
It will not only leave a lasting positive impression on those that you directly help, but like ripples in a pond will likely indirectly positively affect many others. Indeed, when you help others, ask those you help to help someone else. If when you leave this life, that you have created a net positive effect on the planet, then you have fulfilled your purpose and will be remembered positively. Now go forth & enjoy ! shades :banana: flowerforyou
In general, I think that's a good idea whether or not there is an afterlife. biggrin

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Thu 10/29/09 12:37 PM
Edited by smiless on Thu 10/29/09 12:45 PM
I have come to the conclusion that it is okay to have no afterlife. This life was granted to me either by accident or planned. Whatever the reason, I am greatful to have lived it.

If I receive another life then I shall try my best to live up to its standards whatever that might be. If not then I enjoyed the time given to me.

More I cannot ask for. drinker


Thank you for the interesting post. Your article will raise eyebrows probably for more then half of the world who does believe in some kind of deity, energy, or spirit, yet everyone has a different philosophy in what they believe to be true. In the end they have to be happy with their conclusions.

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Thu 10/29/09 12:55 PM
There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it.


Unless you know this to be a fact, why state it as such?

Isn't that just as big of a hoax as any other hoax? spock

A far better speech would have been to just suggest that it doesn't matter one way or the other.

I certainly agree with many of the attitudes that you have suggested. But still, your absolute claim to the truth of the idea that there is no afterlife and that this life is all we have, is dogma in it's own right.

So why preach something you can't possibly know to be true?

You're just as bad as the religious fundamentalists. tongue2


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Thu 10/29/09 01:45 PM
There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it.
Unless you know this to be a fact, why state it as such?

Isn't that just as big of a hoax as any other hoax? spock

A far better speech would have been to just suggest that it doesn't matter one way or the other.

I certainly agree with many of the attitudes that you have suggested. But still, your absolute claim to the truth of the idea that there is no afterlife and that this life is all we have, is dogma in it's own right.

So why preach something you can't possibly know to be true?

You're just as bad as the religious fundamentalists. tongue2
I agree with Abra here. If the OP had left out the first two paragraphs, I would agree completely.

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Thu 10/29/09 02:02 PM
:thumbsup: Cool.:thumbsup: I read this over at the "otherplace":thumbsup:

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Thu 10/29/09 03:38 PM

There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it.


Unless you know this to be a fact, why state it as such?

Isn't that just as big of a hoax as any other hoax? spock

A far better speech would have been to just suggest that it doesn't matter one way or the other.

I certainly agree with many of the attitudes that you have suggested. But still, your absolute claim to the truth of the idea that there is no afterlife and that this life is all we have, is dogma in it's own right.

So why preach something you can't possibly know to be true?

You're just as bad as the religious fundamentalists. tongue2




You have apparently missed part of the point. Worshiping a deity that doesn't exist is at least a waste of very precious time. Regardless, I am only indicating my personal beliefs. Unlike religious fundamentalists, my intention is not to convert someone. I feel that EVERYONE has a right to believe whatever they want to believe (Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, God, Devil, ghosts, etc..), as long as the practice of that belief does not harm anyone. Happy Halloween ! biggrin

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Thu 10/29/09 03:48 PM

There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it.


Unless you know this to be a fact, why state it as such?

Isn't that just as big of a hoax as any other hoax? spock

A far better speech would have been to just suggest that it doesn't matter one way or the other.

I certainly agree with many of the attitudes that you have suggested. But still, your absolute claim to the truth of the idea that there is no afterlife and that this life is all we have, is dogma in it's own right.

So why preach something you can't possibly know to be true?

You're just as bad as the religious fundamentalists. tongue2



He is convinced 100% that there is no sfter life so this is a fact fro him although others might or might not share his statement .
The after life mythology in all religious sense is to give rewards to those who follow the dogma hoax .
Thanks James .


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Thu 10/29/09 04:13 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Thu 10/29/09 04:15 PM
There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. This life is all you have. So, make the most of it.


Unless you know this to be a fact, why state it as such?

Isn't that just as big of a hoax as any other hoax? spock

A far better speech would have been to just suggest that it doesn't matter one way or the other.

I certainly agree with many of the attitudes that you have suggested. But still, your absolute claim to the truth of the idea that there is no afterlife and that this life is all we have, is dogma in it's own right.

So why preach something you can't possibly know to be true?

You're just as bad as the religious fundamentalists. tongue2


You have apparently missed part of the point. Worshiping a deity that doesn't exist is at least a waste of very precious time. Regardless, I am only indicating my personal beliefs. Unlike religious fundamentalists, my intention is not to convert someone. I feel that EVERYONE has a right to believe whatever they want to believe (Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, God, Devil, ghosts, etc..), as long as the practice of that belief does not harm anyone. Happy Halloween ! biggrin
"Worshiping a deity that doesn't exist" is only a "waste of precious time" if it doesn't enhance one's life. But for some people, it actually does enhance their lives.

As to "indicating [your] personal beliefs"...

This statement "There is no afterlife. Admittedly, that may shock some of you. However, a hereafter is at best a nice fairy tale and at worst a giant hoax on most of society. " is difficult to interpret as an "expression of belief". It is very clearly intended as a statement of fact, independent of any (and directly contradictory to some) belief(s).

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Thu 10/29/09 05:37 PM
Sky wrote:

"Worshiping a deity that doesn't exist" is only a "waste of precious time" if it doesn't enhance one's life. But for some people, it actually does enhance their lives.


Truly.

This would be like telling someone who plays the violin that playing the violin is a "waste of precisous time" just because that person doesn't like playing the violin. whoa

That's silly.

But I do agree that people who go though religious rituals or traditions just because they think they need to to please some God are indeed waisting their time. First off, if that's the only reason they are doing it the God probably wouldn't be very impressed anyway (even if the God actually exists).

I've always said that if there is a God, that God would more than likely be far more impressed with atheists who just happen to have good morals, than it would be with "religious" people who would rather be out doing nasty thing but only refrain from doing them because they fear the God's wrath.

How sick would that be? sick

So I guess I do understand where JimNastics is coming from to a degree.

From his point of view religious people would be like people who hate playing the violin but do it anyway just to try to please god. laugh

I'm in total agreement with that sentiment. And I guess there are religious people who are like that.

tohyup wrote:

He is convinced 100% that there is no sfter life so this is a fact fro him although others might or might not share his statement .
The after life mythology in all religious sense is to give rewards to those who follow the dogma hoax .
Thanks James .


You say that the afterlife in mythology in all religions sense is to give rewards to those who follow the dogma hoax.

I disagree. That may be true of many of religions (particularly the one's based on the Mediterranean mythologies of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity), but it's not the reason why everyone believes in a spiritual element to existence.

I believe that life is truly mystical for many reason, including scientific ones.

I'm not truly "worried" about pleasing any "godhead".

I've come to the realization many years ago that if there truly is a spiritual element to reality it would be far above the petty crap of those religions you refer to.

I've also come to the realization that if there exists a supreme intelligence it would need to be far more intelligent than me. That realization right there tells me that any supreme consciousness isn't going to be bother with the petty judgmental egostical crap that many religions try to push onto a 'god'.

What truly surprises me is how the atheists 'fall' for that crap.

They look at those utterly stupid religions and say, "Nah God couldn't possibly be that stupid, therefore there must not be any God". laugh

Why reject spritiuality just because religions are stupid? spock

That very mentality right there isn't any wiser.

What I do is use my imagination. And trust me, my imagination is powerful!

Then I stop. And I think to myself. Can I 'imagine' this unvierse in every detail?

Hell no! Not only can't I imagine it, but I can't even comprehend many of the things that I already know about.

So what does that tell me?

It tells me that whatever it is that is causing this reality to exist is far more imaginative than I am even capable of beginning to comprehend.

Yet, I can indeed comprehend many different models of an eternal spiritual existence. Little O'l dumb me!

Think about that for a minute. What does that imply?

That implies that I can actually imagine something far greater than the happenstance accident that supposedly brought me into existence!

I don't think so.

I can imagine it, change are extremely likely that this 'thing' we call the universe has already imagined even far greater things than that.

So, the bottom line is that I feel pretty confident that I could never be more creative than the very universe that created me. (even if it did so via happenstance)

In some pure raw philosophical sense this just about proves that a spiritual existence must be possible. For how could I have possibly come up with schemes that the very thing that 'created my existence' couldn't come up with? spock

No need to seek any reward, or fear any wrath.

It just makes sense. bigsmile