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Topic: Thelemites
AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:05 PM
More from the wiki.

Rabelais gives us a description of how the Thelemites of the Abbey lived
and the rules they lived by:

All their life was spent not in laws, statutes, or rules, but according
to their own free will and pleasure. They rose out of their beds when
they thought good; they did eat, drink, labour, sleep, when they had a
mind to it and were disposed for it. None did awake them, none did offer
to constrain them to eat, drink, nor to do any other thing; for so had
Gargantua established it. In all their rule and strictest tie of their
order there was but this one clause to be observed,
Do What Thou Wilt;

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Fri 06/01/07 09:06 PM
happy AB has got it..

LAMom's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:07 PM
Thank you AB,, flowerforyou

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:12 PM
So, one could assume they may have lived like quakers? On the land and
at their leisure, with no outside constrictions? One could only hope for
a life like that. No need for money, or to go out and buy food. Sounds
like an idea, so long as it did not include one could do harm at their
will.
Kat

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:12 PM
Makes me wonder who mowed the lawn, watered the flowers,
hunted/dressed/prepared the food and such things.

In order to have the life of an Elohim one must have servants to support
that life.

Someone to dress the garden.

LAMom's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:14 PM
http://www.religioustolerance.org/thelema1.htm
This is the site I found,, I am reading Quite interesting

tata for now,, thank you all for you insight flowerforyou

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Fri 06/01/07 09:20 PM
ehh too technical and wordy for my weary brain to handle right now

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:23 PM
Meeeeeee toooooooo.
Katyawn

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:24 PM
So what's the difference between this what is it a Thelemite versus a
Hedonist.

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Fri 06/01/07 09:31 PM
lol

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Fri 06/01/07 09:37 PM
I used to study Thelema and Kabbalah before I grew out of it and got
married. Crowley was an intelligent and talented man, but I think he
wasted his life doing drugs, having sex and worshipping false gods.
From what I could tell, his lifestyle was his way of rebellion against
his stern and distant parents. His mother used to call him "you great
beast" when he would be naughty, so he adopted the title "The Great
Beast". His books on magick read like technical manuals, he probably
would have been a good Christian aplologist.

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Fri 06/01/07 09:45 PM
flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou Spider aka "spidey" my
friend

I have new game topics up by the way..

SORRY- back to the forum topic :wink:

IAO93's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:56 PM
Okay I guess I am here to simplify some questions. Okay so Thelema is an
occultist philosophy/religion. And Its main quote yes is "Do what thou
wilt shall be the whole of the Law." however as some have left out it is
almost followed with "love is the law love under will." Our main or
"holy" book is called Liber al vel Legis (or Book of the Law) We are a
ceremonial magick type religion (magick is tbasically changing something
with conformity of will) The point is to help not expand the ind but to
discover it. Thelema is full of metaphors and misunderstandings mainly
too weed out the superstitious and the closed-minded. for example the
profit (Aleister Crowley) called himself the Beast 666 not to be "evil"
but t shock the shockable. Many of those in question of Thelema may go
to thelema.org which is a Thelema religious organization called the A.˚.
A.˚. Really Thelema is hard to explain but to some it up it is an
occultist religion/philosophy that uses magick to discover the mind and
find out what it is exactly we want and to help us guide our selves
through our own darknesses (again 80% of thelema terms are metaphoric)
All I can say is have fun in discovery and Do what you will. and to
clear up an earlier statement we believe in not only the line Do what
thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. (and please dont get this
confused with do what you like its much more complex and complicated
than that) The only requirements to be considered is the acceptance of
The Book of the Law and the law itself and it only be interpreted
between the indivual him/herself The law is for all. Everything else is
extra. A good book is Abrahadabra: understanding Aleister Crowley's
Thelemic Magick. If there are those who are willing to spend money on
exploring new ideas. Good Luck and good learning/discovering.

IAO93's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:59 PM
Oh and to harm others would be a contradictiono "love is the law, love
under will." not to evade someone elses will. "every man and woman is a
star" there is enough room to move around with getting in ones way.

Differentkindofwench's photo
Fri 06/01/07 10:02 PM
Actually, the way you approach this and leave it to the discretion of
the reader to learn more about it or shake their head and move on is
well a fairly decent example of do what you will without encroaching on
the will of another. Well done.

LAMom's photo
Fri 06/01/07 10:03 PM
Thank you IAO and Welcome to JSH,,,flowerforyou

I am off to finish reading,,,

MicheleNC's photo
Fri 06/01/07 10:06 PM
IAO-Thanks for the insight. I appreciate you sharing your world.

IAO93's photo
Fri 06/01/07 10:11 PM
No problem you will discover it is okay to be ignorant of unknow thing.
I am ignorant of many many things (being only 18 also is a big factor)
but ignorance is really just an oppurtunity to discover ad say I've been
there. And fortunetly discovering is a lifelong process. So I have a
life full of adventuring! PLus with the help of the Thelema guideing it
OFFERS (not restricts to) a system that has been proven to work for all
(like a step by step prcess) to discover you True Will and to be able to
control the daemons[1] in hell[2] (metaphoric for [1]thoughts in your
[2]sub-conscious)

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