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Topic: MOM/DAD I want my IEP....
njmom05's photo
Tue 10/27/09 06:25 AM

My son is a freshman and we have never had anything like this done? Every single teacher knew he was ADHD but I guess we never really needed anything special so they never really worried about it! I am assuming that this is for students that need special things or need a tutor, am I wrong? If so..my question is why didn't my son ever got evaluated? And if he is doing good in school should I even say anything about this? Actually both of my boys were/are honor students so maybe this isn't something for me? Help!!!

If your child is doing that well in school with ADHD you don't need an IEP. My son has one, but he is severely delayed in all areas of his development. Typically an IEP is set in place if putting a child in a mainstream class setting will totally disrupt the other students and hinder everyone's learning. My son can never be mainstreamed, he is in special education classes and has to have that almost one on one instruction as well as all of his therapists - Physical therapy, Occupational therapy, Speech therapy, Music therapy, Vision therapy and a behavioral specialist.

daniel48706's photo
Wed 10/28/09 05:24 AM


My son is a freshman and we have never had anything like this done? Every single teacher knew he was ADHD but I guess we never really needed anything special so they never really worried about it! I am assuming that this is for students that need special things or need a tutor, am I wrong? If so..my question is why didn't my son ever got evaluated? And if he is doing good in school should I even say anything about this? Actually both of my boys were/are honor students so maybe this isn't something for me? Help!!!

If your child is doing that well in school with ADHD you don't need an IEP. My son has one, but he is severely delayed in all areas of his development. Typically an IEP is set in place if putting a child in a mainstream class setting will totally disrupt the other students and hinder everyone's learning. My son can never be mainstreamed, he is in special education classes and has to have that almost one on one instruction as well as all of his therapists - Physical therapy, Occupational therapy, Speech therapy, Music therapy, Vision therapy and a behavioral specialist.


My youngest is getting closer and closer to that point himself. He currently has to have a behavioral specialist, speech therapy (he reverts to baby talk and/or monosyllabic sounds), metotional therapist, he can not be placed in daycare as he flips out, and he is close to being removed from the school bus as he is a constant disruption and a distraction to the bus driver with his inability to sit still (and I dont mean the normal fidgiting) and get Long with the other kids.

unsure's photo
Wed 10/28/09 06:33 AM


My son is a freshman and we have never had anything like this done? Every single teacher knew he was ADHD but I guess we never really needed anything special so they never really worried about it! I am assuming that this is for students that need special things or need a tutor, am I wrong? If so..my question is why didn't my son ever got evaluated? And if he is doing good in school should I even say anything about this? Actually both of my boys were/are honor students so maybe this isn't something for me? Help!!!

If your child is doing that well in school with ADHD you don't need an IEP. My son has one, but he is severely delayed in all areas of his development. Typically an IEP is set in place if putting a child in a mainstream class setting will totally disrupt the other students and hinder everyone's learning. My son can never be mainstreamed, he is in special education classes and has to have that almost one on one instruction as well as all of his therapists - Physical therapy, Occupational therapy, Speech therapy, Music therapy, Vision therapy and a behavioral specialist.

I have always been told that children with ADHD are above average students, they usually make the honor roll? Both of my boys I guess are your typical ADHD and ADD kids. This is why I get upset when someone makes a statement about these children having all kinds of problems..I guess I don't really see the downside of it??
My question is this, if a child is having all kinds of problems...have they been tested for other things? Or is an IEP used for other problems also? I guess I don't really understand this whole subject because we have never had to do one. I am assuming that they use these things for lots of different things??? I hope everyone is doing well with their children, I know sometimes its a rough journey but IT is well worth it when they look into your eyes!! Good luck everyone!!

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Wed 10/28/09 11:04 AM
daniel, i don't know about the state you live in and haven't had a chance to look it up as of yet, but here you can ask for a behavioral consultant.

if you ask, the school is legally bound to refer your child to the department of education. there are several behavioral consultants on staff, and the one that covers your child's area will evaluate the situation.

the schools usually bend over backward to prevent this, as anything the consultants require they are bound to provide; if they don't, it ends up in court. these are trained psychologists that are the advocate for the CHILD, not the school. they provide education for the parents and the teachers alike, and do teachings throughout the districts.

my mother was one for many years, and i've often invoked her name, lol...and whenever i threatened to call her, i got results. quick ones.

njmom05's photo
Wed 10/28/09 03:04 PM

daniel, i don't know about the state you live in and haven't had a chance to look it up as of yet, but here you can ask for a behavioral consultant.

if you ask, the school is legally bound to refer your child to the department of education. there are several behavioral consultants on staff, and the one that covers your child's area will evaluate the situation.

the schools usually bend over backward to prevent this, as anything the consultants require they are bound to provide; if they don't, it ends up in court. these are trained psychologists that are the advocate for the CHILD, not the school. they provide education for the parents and the teachers alike, and do teachings throughout the districts.

my mother was one for many years, and i've often invoked her name, lol...and whenever i threatened to call her, i got results. quick ones.

I agree with what you said. I also have gone right over the school district's head and went straight to the county Intermediate Unit. They will NEVER let a child who needs therapists or an IEP slip through. My childs therapists all come from the intermediate unit and come to the school for his therapies.

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Wed 10/28/09 03:18 PM


daniel, i don't know about the state you live in and haven't had a chance to look it up as of yet, but here you can ask for a behavioral consultant.

if you ask, the school is legally bound to refer your child to the department of education. there are several behavioral consultants on staff, and the one that covers your child's area will evaluate the situation.

the schools usually bend over backward to prevent this, as anything the consultants require they are bound to provide; if they don't, it ends up in court. these are trained psychologists that are the advocate for the CHILD, not the school. they provide education for the parents and the teachers alike, and do teachings throughout the districts.

my mother was one for many years, and i've often invoked her name, lol...and whenever i threatened to call her, i got results. quick ones.

I agree with what you said. I also have gone right over the school district's head and went straight to the county Intermediate Unit. They will NEVER let a child who needs therapists or an IEP slip through. My childs therapists all come from the intermediate unit and come to the school for his therapies.


I think, considering his school has already refused to fill out the connors form, claiming they need a doctors request to do so (which is pure and utter horse manure as they are legally bound to provide ME the father with ANY information I ask for), I am going to look into going above the school myself. I am tired of getting the run around, and having problems getting him the help he needs, along with not being able to work BECAUSE of his health issues.
You said you went to the "County Intermediate Unit"? How do I locate this intermediate unit?

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 10/28/09 09:08 PM

Why did your classmates or anyone other than your teacher(s), counselor(s), advocate(s) or parents even know it was going on? And even if it did get out, it is still the schools responsibility to provide you with a hassle free environment. And trust me schools are starting to buckle down recently about that because judges are starting to fine the schools as accomplices when it can be proven the school knew of harassment or bullying among the students and simply ignored it.




You want a what? Seems like kids need a lot. What is reality is some kids need a little extra help in learning. Basiclly that is what and Indivicual Eduction Plan is.

Guranteed by a law #94-124 it means that if your child needs help to get and "Equal, most approriate, and least restrictive" education from the public school system. The school has to provide it free to the child and their family once a child is identified as not making appropriate progress and assessed, at the school districts expense, in an agreed upon plan between educators, parents, and significant others. Those others can be Grand-parents, step-parents, lawyers, pediatricians, mentors, clergy, child care providers, transportation agents, state child services personael, adults with similiar disabilities, and your child where appropriate. I strongly suggest getting a trained advocate to help you through the process. Then the baloney and "I Can'ts" tend to be avoided.

Parents have to request it in writing and agree to testing and evaluations but the clock starts on the day the rquest is submitted and has to be acted on in 45 days.

Parents have many rights. Like what, why, and how their child will be tested. They can be present, should be given written results, and the results can be challenged. Generally you have to pay for that but there are state funded specialists to advocate for your child and help you fully understand the process and the results.

I recommend includeing such advocates early on in the process.

A great deal of information is provided at government expense to you as a parent. Custodial and non-custodial parents have a right to be fully vested in this process. Much of the free information is well written, illustrated, and similiar infor mation is made at age approriate level for your child. If English is not your first language all information includeing forms must be translated so you are making informed consent. If reading is not your thing more and more of this information is available on tape or DVD. There are also great Parent/professional training conferences you can attend and learn from peer parents and consumers who have been useing this law for 30+ years.

Usually evaluations will be a combination of written, verbal, and observatons. Kids rarely mind some even find them fun. The important thing is EVERYONE keep in mind it is not PASS or FAIL but assessing how you child learns and if they are age appropriate and help them get there. If not doing as much as is possible to help them. Again this is the schools responsibility and there are federal funds to cover the costs so don't let them tell you they don't have the money.

The kinds of helps a child may get are extra supervision, tutors, adapted materials, counseling, and even adapted learning environments, rest breaks,or special diets. While the school will not provide medication they can be required to administer it in the most appropriate time or way.

This help applies to all learning environments from the classroom, to the playground, to the school lunchroom, or any school sponsored activitiy.

One of the biggest tasks of and IEP is to assure your child is not being discriminated against and is mainstreamed rather than segregated to get this help.

Each time a special needs child enters school, even preschool, or a new school this IEP can be developed and implimented especially if there is any diagnosis or reasonable knowledge that the child will need such individual care.

Any questions feel free to ask for a local referral. All school districts in the USA have resources. It is true they will sometimes stonewall parents so if you need independent assistance ask.

Good luck. Hope this is helpful. It really is easier than it sounds. Once written these plans can be updated and adapted as needed. If you feel the plan is not working you are entitled to appeal the process.







I had one of these done, it singled me out as the stupid kid in the class and made my life a living hell until i graduated high school.

Who ever invented these should be shot...

I am now a very successful, smart, happy Microsoft Administrator, for Banks and Insurance companies, I keep your money and Identity safe.

Thank GOD these tests did not follow me to my career, or i would be flipping burgers for 5 bucks an hour..




Any time a child is singled out for harrassment it is terrible but I know that this law helps many children get and education they would never have. And education that let them move onto independent lives, college, even advanced studies. And education that let them be in the most mainstreamed placement possible rather than warehoused away in some closet. And IEP is a confidential document and any school that makes it public knowledge to anyone that does not need to know can be sued. Often however parents are not as devoted to keeping their child's privacy. Something that a few adult disabled have sued for.

PacificStar48's photo
Wed 10/28/09 09:32 PM

My son is a freshman and we have never had anything like this done? Every single teacher knew he was ADHD but I guess we never really needed anything special so they never really worried about it! I am assuming that this is for students that need special things or need a tutor, am I wrong? If so..my question is why didn't my son ever got evaluated? And if he is doing good in school should I even say anything about this? Actually both of my boys were/are honor students so maybe this isn't something for me? Help!!!


Not evey child, with just about any diagnosis (EP's Are not just for ADHD but all disabilities), that can make age/grade approriate progress needs an IEP. Some kids are so smart and have such learning rich attentive siblings and parents they can get enough to do well inspite of the hurdles. Some parents do not know their students are struggleing until they have health issues not necessarily school failure. Things like skipping school, falling asleep, ulcers,chronic depression, chronic fatigue, migrains, hair pulling, cutting, or chronic fighting. By writing and IEP that lowers the stress or helps with socialization which is part of over all education kids can thrive. Some kids need help with social skills such as personal space, understanding scarcasim, or sexual education that prevents them from acting on impulses. It can be very simple and sometimes very discrete.

One parent has a child that can not tolerate the school bus. He may get a early or last pick up, a public bus pass, cab ride, or even carpool with a selected volunteer.

One of the best things about IEP's is that they allow when people want to find creative simple solutions for them to be used. And for everyone to have and easier time learning.

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