I wonder if a gay guy wanted to dress up as a girl for the photo (skirt, bras, a wig, lipstick, fake nails and so on)

Would that be allowed?

No, it probably wouldn't "be allowed". A tux isn't gender specific (in my mind). Many women have worn them over the decades in movies and in other media. They're like a fancy pant suit for crying out loud. IT shouldn't matter if she is gay or just looks like a boy- though I don't see it- as I used to cross dress I can usually tell. IT IS HER PICTURE. She's not dressing disrespectfully. It's not some tacky short skirt with no underpants thing.
She's not harming anyone. A year book is of the life of the students. If she "looks and dresses" like a boy all the time then shouldn't she get to in the senior class photos? This is a mountain out of a mole hill situation. And the people making it a problem is likely the adults who think they are mature and open minded. Whereas the students probably don't give an honest damn how she appears in the photos so long as they recognize her. She should have the right to dress as she likes.

Though, personally I don't think it's a big deal to wear a dress one day. I even like them in the summer. I had to wear one for my parents wedding (it was too long and I almost biffed it going up a set of stairs). This particular girl might look silly if she did put a dress on with that hair cut...

Ok, what if a guy wants to dress up decently as a woman? Is that possible?

why is it ok for a woman to wear man clothes but it's not ok for a man to wear woman's clothes?

Why is only man's clothes are not gender specific and why woman's dress is women only?

I don't think people get quite as bent out of shape when a girl dresses in boys clothes, but there seems to be a knee jerk reaction to boys dressing as girls. I say who cares. If he has the nerve to do it let him, all this classmates will still know who he is.

If the kids don't care why should we. Why must we we get all insecure and uptight about it. If we want the freedom to be who we are, we shouldn't be trying to control what others choose to be, if it harms no one.

Ultimately it's all about control, what's expected of a female and what's expected of a male. Heaven forbid someone have the courage to be who they feel they are.

It all comes down to rules and regulations and what is accepted as decency.

I think the solution isn't in letting everyone to do whatever, but having clear outlines of what is accepted and having schools with variations of how loose or tight the rules are. Essentially, the schools follow what is widely accepted and supported and what isn't. If 99% of the girls want to dress up as girls, then lesbians and bisexuals have to face that cold harsh reality, that they are minority, and majority dictates how and what.

Now if there are schools out, where regulations are much less looser, then why not go there for those who have special requests?

Having the choice, that if you feel uncomfortable in a school, due to feeling like the rules are too much , then go to another school with less school regulations.

So if the majority dictates you must conform, you just comply? You are the last person I would suspect of being compliant, Atlantis, seriously, no sarcasm intended.

Welcome to Democracy. Isn't the majority decides who the president is? Isn't the majority decides who gets voted into the Congress? Townhalls? Neither I am sarcastic.

I just quoted Jefferson a few hours ago in another thread:

A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

*chuckles*

i put my grandson in dresses all the time...

i figure that as long as it's not indecent, i could care less if a boy wants to wear a dress for his pics. they are HIS pics...not mine.

So it's not decent for a boy to dress like a girl or a girl to dress like a boy? Who says so? What's so wrong with men that women would be less a woman if she dressed like a man? And what is so wrong with women that a man dressed as a woman would be such a terrible offense?

If 99% of the girls want to dress up as girls, then lesbians and bisexuals have to face that cold harsh reality, that they are minority, and majority dictates how and what.


Isn't that mob rule? So 99% prefer girly things, one bright girl steps out of that program and we lose what? Damn I hate trivial conformity. And believe me we are programed, so it's unlikely everyone that chooses to be who they are is going to find a school that will allow them to be themselves.

So if the majority dictates you must conform, you just comply? You are the last person I would suspect of being compliant, Atlantis, seriously, no sarcasm intended.

So what you're saying is that school is a democracy? I think most people who've gone to high school would seriously disagree with that.

No one is in mortal danger of getting hurt because someone refuses to dress to gender conformity. And I dislike the idea of sending children of a different nature to a different school based on their needs. Socially that isn't good for either straight children or of anyother sexuality. That's what breeds fear and misconception about sexuality.

They say the only truely strange sexuality is having none at all.

So why on earth should we separate people based on it. Or discriminate against one another? Shouldn't we evolve past all that socially? Animals don't discriminate based on sexual pereference. Homosexuality and bisexuality happen in the animal kingdom all over the place (not that this is one of those animals are better arguements). IF we are supposed to be the most intelligent species how is that we can't move past these issues?

Well said... except I'm gay and celebate. I can't win.. But I don't feel strange at all.

Ahh, sorry Boo
I don't think it's strange to be celebate...Also I have no idea who "says" any of that (I should find that out). To be celebate wouldn't that mean you still have urges? And to that extent imply some sort of sexuality?

Have you seen the movie slackers? What about Mall Rats?

That is what it would be like..

It all comes down to rules and regulations and what is accepted as decency.

I think the solution isn't in letting everyone to do whatever, but having clear outlines of what is accepted and having schools with variations of how loose or tight the rules are. Essentially, the schools follow what is widely accepted and supported and what isn't. If 99% of the girls want to dress up as girls, then lesbians and bisexuals have to face that cold harsh reality, that they are minority, and majority dictates how and what.

Now if there are schools out, where regulations are much less looser, then why not go there for those who have special requests?

Having the choice, that if you feel uncomfortable in a school, due to feeling like the rules are too much , then go to another school with less school regulations.