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Topic: I LOVE YOU ALL BROTHERS N SISTERS
wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:07 AM
This is to let you know, my brothers and sisters.
That I love you all, thank you for drawing close to Jesus.
I pray never see you here on Earth, but I will in Heaven.
My love for you is a unconditional love like the love.
That Jesus had for us when he went to the cross, for our sins.
My prayer for you all, is peace, and a joy in your hearts.
I also pray that you draw even closer daily to Jesus our king.
That you never walk away from your faith or Jesus.
I am honor and privage to call you all my family, thank you.

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:17 AM
Cool.

does this include those of us that are brothers and sisters but not in
Christ?

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:17 AM
SORRY MAY NOT PRAY TYPO

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:18 AM
I STILL LOVE YOU GUYS AND PRAY FOR YOU TOO WILL COME TO KNOW JESUS,
LIKE JESUS SAID WE HAVE NO CLUE WHO WILL BE SAVED BEFORE THEY DIE

aznguy1456's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:26 AM
well according to roman catholicism, everyone is saved. even if you die
and don't repent you still are saved because god's love is soooooooo
strong that he would never wish us to be in hell...which raises the
question is there a hell? and then, what is the point of catholicism?
and even further, if you can still go to heaven, even after killing mass
amounts of people or sleeping around with everyone's spouse or taking
god's name in vain a billion times or believing that there is more than
one god, what is the point of having christianity or any religion for
that matter?

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Fri 06/01/07 09:35 AM
woah no disrespect but I do not support Roman Catholicism, it is a
branch that is COMPLETELY different in beliefs.

Under the Christian umbrella, they have their separate beliefs that are
highly controversial to other Christians.

I do NOT believe in the purgatory notion.

So I just wanted to clear that up. When you go referring to specific
branches of religion be mindful that it does not represent the entire
body of Christianity.

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:37 AM
EXACTLY AND I AGREE BORED.

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Fri 06/01/07 09:40 AM
I was like woahh nelly noway

I Ed aka "Wonderman" how are you today?

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:40 AM
Aznguy you have a point.

Not about the Catholics but about hell.

The currently accepted 'Hell' never really existed but instead is a
mistranslation or misrepresentation of the meaning used when the
prophets were talking about dieing.

First mistranslation

Sheol to the word Hell. This mistranslation occurs 31 times in the Old
Testement.
Sheol means a pit in the ground where the dead are placed (a Grave).

Second mistranslation

Gehenna to the word Hell. This mistranslation occurs 11 times in the
bible.
Gehenna means 'steep sided gorge or valley' and refers to the Valley of
Hinnon

Third mistranslation

Hades to the word Hell. This mistranslation occurs 10 times.
Hades means a concealed place for dead people (A rich mans grave)

Fourth mistranslation

Tartarus (or in some books Tartoo) to the word Hell. This
mistranslation occurs 1 time.
Tartarus means 'a deep dark abyss, a place of restraint, or
incarceration' and is the place where the dragon, the serpant of old,
satan the devil will be thrown (the bottomless pit).

So once again I ask. Which hell. Tartarus is reserved for Satan and is
the only mention of this word in the bible.

so will we go to the grave or to the Vally of Hinnon. (which by the way
Judas bought a small portion of with his blood money.)

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Fri 06/01/07 09:45 AM
indifferent Oka AB that's nice and all but you missed the point. His
statement in no way reflects the entire body of Christian believers.

noway Please don't rely on Dante's Inferno for an overview on
Christianity. It is from the Roman Catholicism angle. grumble

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:47 AM
AB SORRY BUT JESUS SAID THERE IS AND HE KNOWS

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:53 AM
axnguy wrote:
“if you can still go to heaven, even after killing mass amounts of
people or sleeping around with everyone's spouse or taking god's name in
vain a billion times or believing that there is more than one god, what
is the point of having christianity or any religion for that matter?”

All religions aren’t necessarily focused on morals. In fact, the world
would be in a lot worse shape than it already is if the only thing that
kept people from doing nasty things religion.

In fact, a lot of nasty acts are actually carried out because of
religions, this especially true with respect to wars. Almost all of the
conflict in the middle east is all due to religious differences.
Although there are certainly other motivations involved as well, but one
thing to think about is that those other motivations might not even
exist if the religious difference hadn’t existed in the first place to
divide people so.

Unfortunately, religions have a history of dividing nations rather than
pulling them together.

I personally don’t believe in Christianity. I believe it is an entirely
man-made religion for the purpose of attempting to control the morals of
men. (This is just my honest opinion). I personally much prefer the
pantheistic type religions that put more focus on creation itself,
rather than on the moral behaviors of individual for the purpose of
either being rewarded with eternal afterlife or being punished with
eternal damnation.

In fact, I believe the latter threat of being punished with eternal
damnation can actually drive people to doing bad things. Especially if
they feel unloved or unaccepted by society. After all, if they feel
unloved by people who act like they will be going to heaven, then the
unloved person is going to feel like he or she would not want to go to
that place anyway and spend eternity with all those unloving persons.
So it can actually backfire and have the affect of driving someone off
the deep end.

I feel that religions where people revere each other instead of focusing
on their own salvation is a much healthier outlook on life. I also
believe that the picture of a pantheistic god is a much more loving
picture. I therefore believe that the pantheistic view must be more
correct, simply because I feel that god must surely be more
compassionate than me. And I would choose to be a pantheistic god.

I strongly support and endorse loving religions that worship creation,
and view all people and life as one. I believe that these loving
religions also help to make people realize that our mother earth is
something more than just a big rock.

This has been a personal opinion in response to aznguy concerning his
question of why any religion for that matter?

AdventureBegins's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:55 AM
I did not rely on dantes inferno.

The above information is from a paper on the meaning of the words
themselves in hebrew from the old testement and New Testement.

The actual meaning of and words used in the orginal manuscripts which
were mistranslated to the word HELL in our current versions of the
Bible.

When you see the word hell it was mistranslated from one of the four
words Sheol, Gehenna, Tartarus and Hades. These four words are the
ACTUAL words used hell is the word they were falsely translated into.
ETERNAL HELL DOES NOT EXIST. Sheol is the grave, Hades means a rich
mans grave, Gehenna is a valley where they bury the poor or criminals
and Tartarus is reserved for the imprisonment of Satan.

wonder how many other words were misrepresented.

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Fri 06/01/07 09:56 AM
yawn Why does everything turn into a debate where people show off
their research, sources and statistics..who cares. yawn

I respect you're intelligent I guess it's just these forums that move
people to be negative

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:57 AM
TRUE CHRISTIANY IS NOT RELIGION ABBRA BUT A PERSONEL RELATIONSHIP WITH
CHRIST MOST CHRISTIAN CHURCH PEACH THAT ONLY A FEW GREEDY CHURCHES DO
NOT LOOKS LIKE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC IS NOT A CHRISTIAN

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Fri 06/01/07 09:58 AM
:wink: Yeh I don't like the term "religion" I prefer faith or beliefs or
something.

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 09:59 AM
ACTUALLY AB SATAN USES THIS FALSE TEACHINGS TO LURE PEOPLE TO HELL

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Fri 06/01/07 10:01 AM
noway Careful wonderman you know how the h-word stirs hostility.
Trust me I know, big mistake. I just wanted to see what people thought
about it and what they got from videos. I didn't want a war.

wonderman37's photo
Fri 06/01/07 10:02 AM
OK I DROP IT BORED

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Fri 06/01/07 10:02 AM
You guys need to hear this: "Foosball is the Devil!"

Don't forget: Jesus saves.

Love and props to all my brothers and sisters.

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