Topic: How do you define tiredness?
Gazzatron's photo
Fri 10/16/09 11:31 AM
Edited by Gazzatron on Fri 10/16/09 11:31 AM
Is it from lack of sleep? Is it over work?

Is it a combination of the two?

Decipher this. As a kitchen porter with 1 permanent colleague, I have been working on average 50-55 hours per week - Since May 8th

He goes on holiday (Oct 15 first day off from work), and works an early shift (7am-3pm) on the last day before he goes. So I'm in 4pm-midnight.

Then I have to work the next day 8am-3pm and 6pm-11pm. But that didn't work out that way. I had to train 2 people up (one at 8am until he finished around 4pm), with extra chemical training in there at 3pm. Following me stopping at around 4:30pm, I go for 1.5 hrs break. Working again from 6pm-11:30pm (by the time i'd left), I had to train another guy, and leave him free in the kitchen to his own devices.

Grab the friday shift. And I had a choice, do I leave him to start at 7am on his own and I come in for 8am? Or do I help out and be there from 7am? I chose wisely in the long run because I was there from 7am-4pm (just after).

Really, not what I call ideal for the start of 2 weeks as the sole permanent porter..

(with I add, a health and safety audit, in which the kitchen failed on general cleanliness. How do they expect us to keep a kitchen floor 100% clean if the guy comes in midway through a service period and the jobs were done not more than 15 mins before - sweeping and mopping... and properly too I might add...)

Sorry. I don't mean to rant. I'm just tired and need to have a mild offload.

Ted14621's photo
Fri 10/16/09 11:50 AM
Count your blessings. A whole lot of people can't find a job.

Monier's photo
Fri 10/16/09 12:00 PM

Count your blessings. A whole lot of people can't find a job.


I hear that alot, mainly from the people begging me for one. Some people with jobs are doing 2 to 3 times their workloads because employers are afraid to spend money.


This is the perfect time for entrepreneurs.

If the OP is working that much and with so much responsibility, he should really start looking into working for himself as an owner or subcontracting his services. It's easy to become incorporated and I'm sure clients are paying much more per hour than the company is paying it's employees.

I'm not saying it's cool to quit and do this, people need an income, but it's something to look into.

PATSFAN's photo
Fri 10/16/09 12:11 PM

Count your blessings. A whole lot of people can't find a job.




:thumbsup: It's been a year for me

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Fri 10/16/09 12:13 PM
Phylis Diller.....

seamac's photo
Fri 10/16/09 03:20 PM
Tired is 7 weeks of 7am till 10-11 pm in the hospital with your spouse who is critically ill every single day! Tired is 4 months of caring for him alone 24-7 till he dies. (I did have Hospice, thank heavens) Real tiredness can almost kill you.

Quietman_2009's photo
Fri 10/16/09 03:25 PM
when I was your age I was driving a water transport hauling water to drilling rigs. an average day would be 30-40 hours with a 4 hour break to sleep in the truck

7 days a week, if I wanted a day off I had to quit my job

I worked an average 100 hour week every week

you don't know tired

Macdreamer's photo
Fri 10/16/09 03:34 PM

Is it from lack of sleep? Is it over work?

Is it a combination of the two?

Decipher this. As a kitchen porter with 1 permanent colleague, I have been working on average 50-55 hours per week - Since May 8th

He goes on holiday (Oct 15 first day off from work), and works an early shift (7am-3pm) on the last day before he goes. So I'm in 4pm-midnight.

Then I have to work the next day 8am-3pm and 6pm-11pm. But that didn't work out that way. I had to train 2 people up (one at 8am until he finished around 4pm), with extra chemical training in there at 3pm. Following me stopping at around 4:30pm, I go for 1.5 hrs break. Working again from 6pm-11:30pm (by the time i'd left), I had to train another guy, and leave him free in the kitchen to his own devices.

Grab the friday shift. And I had a choice, do I leave him to start at 7am on his own and I come in for 8am? Or do I help out and be there from 7am? I chose wisely in the long run because I was there from 7am-4pm (just after).

Really, not what I call ideal for the start of 2 weeks as the sole permanent porter..

(with I add, a health and safety audit, in which the kitchen failed on general cleanliness. How do they expect us to keep a kitchen floor 100% clean if the guy comes in midway through a service period and the jobs were done not more than 15 mins before - sweeping and mopping... and properly too I might add...)

Sorry. I don't mean to rant. I'm just tired and need to have a mild offload.


It sounds like you are doing a great job. Hang in there...it will get better. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and do what you have to do for as long as you have to do it. A bit of weariness is bound to go with that kind of pace, but you will get over it..:thumbsup: flowerforyou

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Fri 10/16/09 04:20 PM


Count your blessings. A whole lot of people can't find a job.


I hear that alot, mainly from the people begging me for one. Some people with jobs are doing 2 to 3 times their workloads because employers are afraid to spend money.


This is the perfect time for entrepreneurs.

If the OP is working that much and with so much responsibility, he should really start looking into working for himself as an owner or subcontracting his services. It's easy to become incorporated and I'm sure clients are paying much more per hour than the company is paying it's employees.

I'm not saying it's cool to quit and do this, people need an income, but it's something to look into.


How, exactly does someone contract out as a kitchen porter?? Perhaps you missed that part of the story.

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Fri 10/16/09 04:25 PM
Everyone's level of "tired" is different. What is with the whining about "you don't know tired"?
It is sad and pathetic that a person can't just understand what someone else is going through without trying to "one-up" them.
Time to get over yourself.


widow2763's photo
Fri 10/16/09 04:25 PM
rant all you want to-everybody needs a sounding board--

Quietman_2009's photo
Fri 10/16/09 04:27 PM

Everyone's level of "tired" is different. What is with the whining about "you don't know tired"?
It is sad and pathetic that a person can't just understand what someone else is going through without trying to "one-up" them.
Time to get over yourself.




f.o.

Monier's photo
Fri 10/16/09 10:40 PM



Count your blessings. A whole lot of people can't find a job.


I hear that alot, mainly from the people begging me for one. Some people with jobs are doing 2 to 3 times their workloads because employers are afraid to spend money.


This is the perfect time for entrepreneurs.

If the OP is working that much and with so much responsibility, he should really start looking into working for himself as an owner or subcontracting his services. It's easy to become incorporated and I'm sure clients are paying much more per hour than the company is paying it's employees.

I'm not saying it's cool to quit and do this, people need an income, but it's something to look into.


How, exactly does someone contract out as a kitchen porter?? Perhaps you missed that part of the story.



If you can do work, then you have the ability to sell that to somebody. Maybe not exactly the same job, but the drive is there. I don't care if you are out digging worms all day. You can mold that into a work opportunity.

Perhaps you did not get the point of my previous comment.

Jtevans's photo
Fri 10/16/09 10:42 PM
tiredness - Waking up in a pool of urine because you're too tired to go to the bathroom?what

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Sat 10/17/09 08:58 AM




Count your blessings. A whole lot of people can't find a job.


I hear that alot, mainly from the people begging me for one. Some people with jobs are doing 2 to 3 times their workloads because employers are afraid to spend money.


This is the perfect time for entrepreneurs.

If the OP is working that much and with so much responsibility, he should really start looking into working for himself as an owner or subcontracting his services. It's easy to become incorporated and I'm sure clients are paying much more per hour than the company is paying it's employees.

I'm not saying it's cool to quit and do this, people need an income, but it's something to look into.


How, exactly does someone contract out as a kitchen porter?? Perhaps you missed that part of the story.



If you can do work, then you have the ability to sell that to somebody. Maybe not exactly the same job, but the drive is there. I don't care if you are out digging worms all day. You can mold that into a work opportunity.

Perhaps you did not get the point of my previous comment.


I got the point. Just how do you expect someone who is a kitchen porter to be able to do that. I will not generalize, but I will wager that this person does not have the "skills" required to sell themselves. This is easier said than done, and takes a bit of drive, ambition, smarts etc to pull it off. Of course it would not be "exactly" the same job, not even close. Perhaps starting to learn a new skill, go back to school ....would have been better advice.

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Sat 10/17/09 09:45 AM