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Edited by
ReadyF0rM0re
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Wed 11/04/09 09:48 PM
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Do you want a laptop or desktop. What the main roles this PC will have? Just surfing the web, games, business apps, just learning? It makes a big difference. I don't need something that pricy to surf the web. Yes I do download alot =) I like to do everything for this pc but not to go over board on price Once I make good money I won't have the need to ask what a decent pc is i'm looking for a desktop with 4gig ram if it handles games awsome but isn't a must yes business apps and learning is involved Ok well one, Memory - Dont go bigger then 3GB if you are going to run a 32bit OS.. Microsoft windows 32bit will not see more then 3.96GB of memory, 4GB is 4048mb or 4.05gb of ram.. your wasting your money.. If you want to play games get an Xbox.. for the money, you cant beat it.. (PS3 still has no titles) If you dont care about a service warranty i would suggest the same as the guy above, and going with Newegg.com or to tigerdirect.com or microcenter.com and just build your own.. If you are going to use it for school, and want something that is fairly cheap.. Microcenter does systems off business lease, which are generally less then 400 bucks and come with a 90 day warranty on all parts.. if you care more about the warranty, i would just stick with trusty old dell.. and get an external hard drive... |
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Do you want a laptop or desktop. What the main roles this PC will have? Just surfing the web, games, business apps, just learning? It makes a big difference. I don't need something that pricy to surf the web. Yes I do download alot =) I like to do everything for this pc but not to go over board on price Once I make good money I won't have the need to ask what a decent pc is i'm looking for a desktop with 4gig ram if it handles games awsome but isn't a must yes business apps and learning is involved Ok well one, Memory - Dont go bigger then 3GB if you are going to run a 32bit OS.. Microsoft windows 32bit will not see more then 3.96GB of memory, 4GB is 4048mb or 4.05gb of ram.. your wasting your money.. If you want to play games get an Xbox.. for the money, you cant beat it.. (PS3 still has no titles) If you dont care about a service warranty i would suggest the same as the guy above, and going with Newegg.com or to tigerdirect.com or microcenter.com and just build your own.. If you are going to use it for school, and want something that is fairly cheap.. Microcenter does systems off business lease, which are generally less then 400 bucks and come with a 90 day warranty on all parts.. if you care more about the warranty, i would just stick with trusty old dell.. and get an external hard drive... Have you seen the pc's they have out in the stores they have 8gigs of ram but are on 64bit systems. The reason why it could only go up to 4gig of ram is because the Win XP couldn't read it. So the max of ram you could put in is 4gig |
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Do you want a laptop or desktop. What the main roles this PC will have? Just surfing the web, games, business apps, just learning? It makes a big difference. I don't need something that pricy to surf the web. Yes I do download alot =) I like to do everything for this pc but not to go over board on price Once I make good money I won't have the need to ask what a decent pc is i'm looking for a desktop with 4gig ram if it handles games awsome but isn't a must yes business apps and learning is involved Ok well one, Memory - Dont go bigger then 3GB if you are going to run a 32bit OS.. Microsoft windows 32bit will not see more then 3.96GB of memory, 4GB is 4048mb or 4.05gb of ram.. your wasting your money.. If you want to play games get an Xbox.. for the money, you cant beat it.. (PS3 still has no titles) If you dont care about a service warranty i would suggest the same as the guy above, and going with Newegg.com or to tigerdirect.com or microcenter.com and just build your own.. If you are going to use it for school, and want something that is fairly cheap.. Microcenter does systems off business lease, which are generally less then 400 bucks and come with a 90 day warranty on all parts.. if you care more about the warranty, i would just stick with trusty old dell.. and get an external hard drive... Have you seen the pc's they have out in the stores they have 8gigs of ram but are on 64bit systems. The reason why it could only go up to 4gig of ram is because the Win XP couldn't read it. So the max of ram you could put in is 4gig Ok.. 1. your machine is hardware limited, you can run as much memory as your motherboard can handle.. Their are machines running XP 32bit that have 32gb of memory, XP Pro (32bit edition) will only see 3.96gb of memory... Doesn't matter how much over that you have installed. Any 32bit operating system will only see 3.96gb of memory, it doesn't matter if it is windows xp, vista, or 7, if it is 32bit you are limited to 3.96gb.. 2. You can run 64bit OS on only 64bit processor machines.. if your processor doesn't support 64bit OS, you cannot run it on your machine. 64bit is required to run more than 3.96gb of memory, however some programs will not run on a 64bit OS, they will require specifically a 64bit version. 3. If you are running windows, your machines speed is not just your processor and you memory, Windows will page memory on the hard drive regardless of how much memory you have, it is just the way windows is designed to run. As a result, the better your HD, Connection, Bus, and FSB (front Serial Bus) are the faster your machine will be, also, external video card, and a good powersupply. typical cheap machines, Celeron, dual core intel, sempron AMD, all have a slow FSB, and are not as good at running cool. Heat causes failures, and a slow FSB will kill performance between your memory and processor. A brand new machine with 4gb of physical ram running a celeron 3.73ghz processor and a 250gb 5400rpm hard drive will be slower then a 6 year old P4 2.0ghz machine with a 80gb 5400rpm drive and 1gb of memory. (both running XP SP3) Buying guide; 1. Try to buy a better, not the best, as the prices are going to be high, but try to go with either a core2duo, or a AMD Phenom processor 2. Try to get a system that has a board that has SATA as the drive connection to the board, IDE is slow, E-IDE is also Slow, SCSI is expensive. 3. Don't get a huge hard drive, people are buying 250GB hard drives, or bigger, the bigger the drive the slower your machine will run, as windows will index the drive which will make the machine slower then your last machine, if you want space get two drives, one drive that has the OS installed, the other for storage, try not to go bigger then 160BG, also try to get drives that will run 7200RPM or faster, this will make a huge difference. 4. DDR2 or DDR3, i would stick with going for the better, and getting DDR3 as new memory is generally cheaper then old memory when you want to upgrade. 5. Video, always opt for the card, and not on-board, as the on-board will take from system performance, i would just go for a 128, or 256mb video card, make sure it supports the latest direct-X as this will help with running windows 7 or vista. 6. IMPORTANT, Make sure the machine comes with reinstall disks, not RECOVERY disks, if it is just recovery, stay the heck away. |
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Edited by
HawaiiMusikMan
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Sat 11/14/09 09:27 PM
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Computers are cheap nowadays. This is my minimum recommendation of what you should look for regardless of if it's just for internet or a gaming machine:
Intel processor (not a celeron and not AMD) dual or quad core 4gb or more ram Windows 7 64bit 500gb hard drive Video card (not onboard video) DVD burner Hope that helps |
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3btech dot com has some of the best deals on computers ready to go out of the box
and you can still get xp on some of them granted a lot of them are off lease buy backs but they do what most need to get done couple examples 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Sempron 3000+, 512MB, 160GB, DVDRW 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2GB, 160GB, DVDRW, nVidia Video 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Sempron 3000+, 512MB, 160GB, DVDRW # AMD Sempron 3000+ # 512MB DDR SDRAM # 160GB Serial ATA HDD # DVD Burner Included $149.99 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2GB, 160GB, DVDRW, nVidia Video # AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ # 2GB DDR2 SDRAM # 160GB Serial ATA HDD # DVD Burner Included $229.00 hope this helps and good luck finding what you need (if you have not all ready |
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Edited by
ReadyF0rM0re
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Tue 11/17/09 04:42 PM
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3btech dot com has some of the best deals on computers ready to go out of the box and you can still get xp on some of them granted a lot of them are off lease buy backs but they do what most need to get done couple examples 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Sempron 3000+, 512MB, 160GB, DVDRW 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2GB, 160GB, DVDRW, nVidia Video 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Sempron 3000+, 512MB, 160GB, DVDRW # AMD Sempron 3000+ # 512MB DDR SDRAM # 160GB Serial ATA HDD # DVD Burner Included $149.99 3B Tech Complete Computer Special: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2GB, 160GB, DVDRW, nVidia Video # AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ # 2GB DDR2 SDRAM # 160GB Serial ATA HDD # DVD Burner Included $229.00 hope this helps and good luck finding what you need (if you have not all ready The second one is a semi-good deal, kinda high on both of them honestly... Microcenter has the second one with xp pro, 3gb ddr2, and dual dvd-R drives for 149.00 with a 90 day warranty |
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