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Topic: Elderly woman left to die by UK's NHS, saved by daughter
KerryO's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:11 PM



Not naive at all. :wink: It's called experience. I've worked in that business.


It never occurs to the biggest blowhards on healthcare that there are worse things than death. To them, this is just some ideological video game where, if you don't like the outcome, you just hit the reset button on the console like some omnipotent player who has it all under control.

Then, life gets messy when an unexpected event happens and they change their tune pretty quick.





-Kerry O.

Winx's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:27 PM


Not naive at all. :wink: It's called experience. I've worked in that business.

It never occurs to the biggest blowhards on healthcare that there are worse things than death. To them, this is just some ideological video game where, if you don't like the outcome, you just hit the reset button on the console like some omnipotent player who has it all under control.

Then, life gets messy when an unexpected event happens and they change their tune pretty quick.

-Kerry O.


All it takes is one car accident, a fall, a stroke, a child with cancer, a medical condition, etc., to change one's life.

My child is seeing that now. A classmate's father (40's) had a stroke. He's been in the hospital and rehab for a long time. He was very successful in his business. Now his wife has to stay home and take care of him and the children. He can't walk or bathe himself. A year later they have to apply for help. They were one of the lucky ones. They survived a year. One night their life changed in the blink of an eye.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:30 PM



Not naive at all. :wink: It's called experience. I've worked in that business.

It never occurs to the biggest blowhards on healthcare that there are worse things than death. To them, this is just some ideological video game where, if you don't like the outcome, you just hit the reset button on the console like some omnipotent player who has it all under control.

Then, life gets messy when an unexpected event happens and they change their tune pretty quick.

-Kerry O.


All it takes is one car accident, a fall, a stroke, a child with cancer, a medical condition, etc., to change one's life.

My child is seeing that now. A classmate's father (40's) had a stroke. He's been in the hospital and rehab for a long time. He was very successful in his business. Now his wife has to stay home and take care of him and the children. He can't walk or bathe himself. A year later they have to apply for help. They were one of the lucky ones. They survived a year. One night their life changed in the blink of an eye.


they won't approve my sister for home care even though she is disabled, bed ridden and takes the meds they give a 3rd degree burn victim.:cry:

Winx's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:31 PM
Rose,

In my city, if you have Medicaid, you can go through other organizations for home health. We have a company called Paraquad and there is the Jewish Women's League too.

IgorFrankensteen's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:33 PM
My frustration with all the alternating horror stories and other complaints, is that no alternate solutions are being proposed. People who relate these stories always seem to assume that there are exactly two alternatives for us: either keep things as they are, or exactly copy the folks who are perpetrating these horrible crimes against the victims.
We can do things differently than we are now, WITHOUT either handing everything over to the profit-motive people, OR putting budget-minded government bureaucrats in charge of things.
We NEED change from the existing 'system.' Similar horror stories ARE happening under the American system as well. You wont hear about them, because they usually happen to people too poor to even recognize what's being done to them. Instead of government representatives selfishly ordering cessation of support, Hospital representatives, or insurance bureaucrats do it. That doesn't make it better or worse, it makes our system just as bad.
What I'd LIKE to see, is a serious look into exactly WHY things cost so much. Why do I get FOUR bills for an X-ray? Why does progress result in falling prices for everything in modern life EXCEPT medical tests and procedures?

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Mon 10/12/09 07:35 PM

Rose,

In my city, if you have Medicaid, you can go through other organizations for home health. We have a company called Paraquad and there is the Jewish Women's League too.


they tried...they won't qualify her. she even had to hire a lawyer to help her when she got sick now. the doctors and everyone have tried with them. back then she was on a morphine drip and had a port for an IV in her at home.....and they still didn't think she needed it. that was while I was working. I hesitant to look for a job and leave her alone during the day. she hasn't driven a car in 10 years and can't get to appointments and her hubby can't take off work that often. he works for the state

they even denied her insurance through his work for pre-existing and they wouldn't give her a probation period like some insurances do

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Mon 10/12/09 08:49 PM



If John McCain got his way in 2000 with campaign finance reform the insurance companies wouldn't be able to write health care laws and pay congress to pass em as easy as they do now.

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