Topic: Reaility.vs.Perception
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Fri 10/09/09 07:57 AM
Edited by jrbogie on Fri 10/09/09 08:14 AM

jrbogie said:

there really is no reality, really. we each perceive reality differently from our own place in the universe.

Frankly, pal, you oughtta be ashamed of yourself!!!
laugh laugh laugh offtopic laugh laugh laugh

That "intellectual purl" of your's is MUCH TOO DEEP for the rest of us, mere mortals, to comprehand! laugh laugh laugh
offtopicyourself huh? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: how is my offering my view that there is no reality other than what we perceive within each of us individually not topical to the thread title, "reality v perception"? even the thread author agreed with the post that you claim is "off topic". he would know what is off his topic would he not.

you have devoted more off topic posts to me than i can count. i'll reply to every one and others have now thrown their two cents on this childishness you pusue. you seem to relish in the off topic. this site has moderation should you have a complaint. why not let those moderators decide the appropriateness of posts without you're continuing you're "i wanna be a forum motinitor too" tirade so that the other members here aren't subjected to even more off topic posts? i await your next straying.

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Fri 10/09/09 09:05 AM


jrbogie said:

there really is no reality, really. we each perceive reality differently from our own place in the universe.

Frankly, pal, you oughtta be ashamed of yourself!!!
laugh laugh laugh offtopic laugh laugh laugh

That "intellectual purl" of your's is MUCH TOO DEEP for the rest of us, mere mortals, to comprehand! laugh laugh laugh
offtopicyourself huh? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: how is my offering my view that there is no reality other than what we perceive within each of us individually not topical to the thread title, "reality v perception"? even the thread author agreed with the post that you claim is "off topic". he would know what is off his topic would he not.

you have devoted more off topic posts to me than i can count. i'll reply to every one and others have now thrown their two cents on this childishness you pusue. you seem to relish in the off topic. this site has moderation should you have a complaint. why not let those moderators decide the appropriateness of posts without you're continuing you're "i wanna be a forum motinitor too" tirade so that the other members here aren't subjected to even more off topic posts? i await your next straying.



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SkyHook5652's photo
Fri 10/09/09 03:17 PM
Personally, I think that any discussion of person, or his actions, is always "off topic".

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Fri 10/09/09 03:19 PM

Personally, I think that any discussion of person, or his actions, is always "off topic".


Unless that is what the topic is about. Have you seen some of the other forums? laugh laugh

SkyHook5652's photo
Fri 10/09/09 03:47 PM
Personally, I think that any discussion of person, or his actions, is always "off topic".
Unless that is what the topic is about. Have you seen some of the other forums? laugh laugh
Yeah. :laughing:

wux's photo
Fri 10/09/09 07:28 PM

Other than perceiving our own existence, when we consider that we think and feel, and there was nothing to feel or think, then there would be no thought and feeling. Therefore a thinking or feeling being can be certain that it he she exists.

What I get from that is that you believe there is no objective means of determining reality. Yes, there is, but only one. The fact that I exist, in the sense that I am a capacity to feel and think. That everything on which such a judgment would have to be based is subjective (i.e. perception).

If so, I agree with you completely. drinker

I hope somebody is &^%*^ing writing all this down.
You just did! biggrin


Are you saying I am a somebody? I thought you'd just agreed with me.

You cannot do both. :smilerfukface:

wux's photo
Fri 10/09/09 07:37 PM
Edited by wux on Fri 10/09/09 07:42 PM

You cannot do both. :smilerfukface:


I am not trying to be rude. (I can do that very easily, so why would I want to be trying? Unless I want to become trying, or trying to want to become trying. But not rude.)

The idea is that Forminder's Postulum says, that there are smilies in the system that are hidden; their spelling equivalents are not displayed in the key or guide to the extant ones.

My new quest, which replaces the Holy Grail, is to try to hit upon the spelling in the syntax of the smilies on one that is so rude that the site will be closed down when it gets displayed (finally) on the screen, after many decades of hard and dedicated research work. I will close each post of mine from now on with a strangely spelled smiley with proper syntax.

My aim is to win the Nobel prize for Peace with this. By staying unsuccessful in my tests.
:JohannSebastianObamaInTheRear:

jrbogie's photo
Fri 10/09/09 07:43 PM
Edited by jrbogie on Fri 10/09/09 07:45 PM

Personally, I think that any discussion of person, or his actions, is always "off topic".


that it is but it's soooooooooo fun becoming the new topic of a thread. never thought i deserved sudh attention. maybe i'll check out the political thread and see if i can attract more attacks than obama, ya think?:banana: :banana: :banana: you are offtopic by the way.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Fri 10/09/09 07:44 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Fri 10/09/09 07:46 PM
Other than perceiving our own existence, when we consider that we think and feel, and there was nothing to feel or think, then there would be no thought and feeling. Therefore a thinking or feeling being can be certain that it he she exists.
What I get from that is that you believe there is no objective means of determining reality.
Yes, there is, but only one. The fact that I exist, in the sense that I am a capacity to feel and think. That everything on which such a judgment would have to be based is subjective (i.e. perception).
I’m sorry, I don’t quite understand that.

I don’t consider a “fact” to be equivalent to a “means”.

jrbogie's photo
Fri 10/09/09 07:47 PM


Personally, I think that any discussion of person, or his actions, is always "off topic".


Unless that is what the topic is about. Have you seen some of the other forums? laugh laugh


so are you offtopic missy bean.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Fri 10/09/09 11:36 PM



Personally, I think that any discussion of person, or his actions, is always "off topic".


Unless that is what the topic is about. Have you seen some of the other forums? laugh laugh


so are you offtopic missy bean.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:



I can't be off topic. I don't exist. tongue2

jrbogie's photo
Sat 10/10/09 07:30 AM

I can't be off topic. I don't exist. tongue2


ah, a jeaniebean atheist huh? well i can never know if you exist. unknowable phenomena. until i experience you of course.devil

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Sat 10/10/09 11:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 10/10/09 11:37 AM


I can't be off topic. I don't exist. tongue2


ah, a jeaniebean atheist huh? well i can never know if you exist. unknowable phenomena. until i experience you of course.devil


What is an atheist?


Ruth34611's photo
Sun 10/11/09 06:28 PM
Have you ever felt the future is the past, but you don’t know how...?
A reflected dream of a captured time, is it really now, is it really happening?

Don’t know why I feel this way, have I dreamt this time, this place?
Something vivid comes again into my mind
And I think I’ve seen your face, seen this room, been in this place
Something vivid comes again into my mind

All my hopes and expectations, looking for an explanation
Have I found my destination? I just can’t take no more

The dream is true, the dream is true
The dream is true, the dream is true

Think I’ve heard your voice before, think I’ve said these words before
Something makes me feel I just might lose my mind
Am I still inside my dream? is this a new reality
Something makes me feel that I have lost my mind

All my hopes and expectations, looking for an explanation
Coming to the realization that I can’t see for sure


I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself
I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, please save me from myself

The dream is true, the dream is true
The dream is true, the dream is true

I get up put on the light, dreading the oncoming night
Scared to fall asleep and dream the dream again
Nothing that I contemplate, nothing that I can compare
To letting loose the demons deep inside my head

Dread to think what might be stirring, that my dream is reoccurring
Got to keep away from drifting, saving me from myself


I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself
I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself

Lost in a dream of mirrors, lost in a paradox
Lost and time is spinning, lost a nightmare I retrace
Lost a hell that I revisit, lost another time and place
Lost a parallel existence, lost a nightmare I retrace


I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself
I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself

I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself
I only dream in black and white, I only dream cause I’m alive
I only dream in black and white, to save me from myself

The dream is true, the dream is true
The dream is true, the dream is true

drinker

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Sun 10/11/09 09:58 PM
Edited by JaneStar1 on Sun 10/11/09 10:02 PM
Oh, that's beautiful, I can feel it
Oh, that's wonderful, I can hear it
Oh, that's magical, I can really see it
....................................
Oh, But what's the point? ? ? what (nonesense is unstopable!)

jrbogie's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:20 AM

Have you ever felt the future is the past, but you don’t know how...?
:


no. at any given moment only the present exists.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:26 AM
Jane and jr, it's just a song.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:26 AM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Mon 10/12/09 07:27 AM

Dream of Mirrors by Iron Maiden

jrbogie's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:56 AM
my appologies ruth. i thought the question i answered was yours. did not realize it was the beginning of the song.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 10/12/09 07:59 AM

my appologies ruth. i thought the question i answered was yours. did not realize it was the beginning of the song.



flowerforyou

I was just having fun last night trying to come up with a song for every thread in "My Topics". :tongue: