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he did it and should face the consequences Agree and regardless of what your status, this is not an excuse and he must face the consequences... Justice must be impose. True, but that's not the question posed here? I answered your question... When a child is involved, I don't care how talented the person is, the stigma of the heinous act is sure to follow. |
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The definition of statutory rape doesn’t talk about force or about consent. Neither are needed. The statute is meant to protect children. A 13-year-old can’t consent to intercourse with a man over 18, and definitely not with a man in his 30s. Roman Polanski was convicted of a serious crime in the 70’s. He chose to flee to France. He had money and connections, has lived a great life, unhindered by his obligations to society. So, is the message: rich guys can get away with anything … or... is it only rich guys with friends in Hollywood? The statute of limitations for rape does not toll simply because 31 years has passed. And for those that say the victim forgave him...victims cannot “forgive” rapists. The criminal justice system is meant to protect all of us. The amazing part to me is that no one from Hollywood...not a man, not a woman...has stood up to protect women against rape. Instead, they protect their own...like doctors...like lawyers. A sad state of affairs. Actually, the age of consent in California in 1976 was 14, she was 2 weeks before her 14th birthday. Yes, still illegal. For her own sake and to get rid of her own notariety (I think I spelled that wrong), she has requested that the court impose the sentence that was part of his original plea bargain, which was no jail time. I think in a case like this, the victim's wishes need to be taken into account. Everyone agreed at the time that the best thing for the victim was for things to die down quietly with no more publicity than was necessary. The judge didn't agree (which is within his rights). Hence, this whole mess started. Is he and should he be above the law? No, of course not, no one should. But, has justice for his victim truly been served? She is the only who can answer that and for 30 years she has been saying No, it has not. She and her family and children are stalked by the media and papparazzi, she is forced to relive over and over again something that should have become part of her past 33 years ago. Is that justice? And, for 33 years, he has lived an exemplary life, that should count for something. If he was out in the world raping, killing, maiming and pillaging, that would be one thing. But he has not. I think that totality of circumstances need to be taken into account, most particularly the wishes of the victim. |
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Just call him Father Roman and throw him some more kids.
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I dont see what's the controversy
the guy committed a crime he pled guilty and then ran like a rabbit THAT is a bigger crime than the rape charge if you get a speeding ticket and never show up, the "failure to appear" is a bigger charge than the ticket you're not allowed to run from the justice system |
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Yes, the art stands on its own. Art is art.
But I can't completely separate the art and the artist. In some cases, if I truly dislike the artist, for whatever reason, I am inclined to avoid the art. |
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I dont see what's the controversy the guy committed a crime he pled guilty and then ran like a rabbit THAT is a bigger crime than the rape charge if you get a speeding ticket and never show up, the "failure to appear" is a bigger charge than the ticket you're not allowed to run from the justice system You know, that's a perspective I hadn't thought of. Yes, I would tend to agree with you there. |
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I've been boycotting Woodey Allen for years.
Easy to do bein's he's boring. |
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Roman did an awful thing. However, it was 30 years ago! If he'd done exactly the same thing in Canada, for example, there would have been no charges because it's not illegal there. He moved to a place that didn't consider what he did a crime. Therefore he is a political refugee. However, it might be interesting if he wound up in the same prison as Manson sense Manson's people killed and cut up Roman's pregnant wife, Sharon Tate. Which reminds me... Squeaky Fromme was just released from prison a couple of months ago here in Ft. Worth. Hey F&L, do yo want me to try and get a loch of her hair for you? he didn't go to a place that did not consider it a crime .. he went to a place and other places that do not have extradition to this country ..tha's why he's where he lives now..not because they don't consider it crime.. |
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The definition of statutory rape doesn’t talk about force or about consent. Neither are needed. The statute is meant to protect children. A 13-year-old can’t consent to intercourse with a man over 18, and definitely not with a man in his 30s. Roman Polanski was convicted of a serious crime in the 70’s. He chose to flee to France. He had money and connections, has lived a great life, unhindered by his obligations to society. So, is the message: rich guys can get away with anything … or... is it only rich guys with friends in Hollywood? The statute of limitations for rape does not toll simply because 31 years has passed. And for those that say the victim forgave him...victims cannot “forgive” rapists. The criminal justice system is meant to protect all of us. The amazing part to me is that no one from Hollywood...not a man, not a woman...has stood up to protect women against rape. Instead, they protect their own...like doctors...like lawyers. A sad state of affairs. !. |
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Edited by
tohyup
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Wed 09/30/09 04:04 PM
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double post
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Roman did an awful thing. However, it was 30 years ago! If he'd done exactly the same thing in Canada, for example, there would have been no charges because it's not illegal there. He moved to a place that didn't consider what he did a crime. Therefore he is a political refugee. However, it might be interesting if he wound up in the same prison as Manson sense Manson's people killed and cut up Roman's pregnant wife, Sharon Tate. Which reminds me... Squeaky Fromme was just released from prison a couple of months ago here in Ft. Worth. Hey F&L, do yo want me to try and get a loch of her hair for you? [/quote I don't think butt *ucking a 13 year girl is political ... |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Wed 09/30/09 04:08 PM
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His Polanski did a little too much Roman back in his youth.....
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Edited by
adj4u
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Thu 10/01/09 08:14 AM
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what ever happened to statute of limitations
this was 22 years ago are they saying he has been out of the jurisdiction of the prosicuting authority all that time (thus voiding the statute) and it is not like he kept a low profile (they knew where to find him) so is the statute really nullified ????? if the victim is not pursuing why are they wasting taxpayer money it is not like there are not more drastic things that need attention |
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what ever happened to statute of limitations this was 22 years ago are they saying he has been out of the jurisdiction of the prosicuting authority all that time (thus voiding the statute) if the victim is not pursuing why are they wasting taxpayer money it is not like there are not more drastic things that need attention there is no statute of limitations for a fugitive from justice. He already pleaded guilty and has been convicted. THEN he ran before sentencing he has stayed in countries that have no extradition treaties with the US and finally he popped into a country which did and was arrested by the Swiss |
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what ever happened to statute of limitations this was 22 years ago are they saying he has been out of the jurisdiction of the prosicuting authority all that time (thus voiding the statute) if the victim is not pursuing why are they wasting taxpayer money it is not like there are not more drastic things that need attention there is no statute of limitations for a fugitive from justice. He already pleaded guilty and has been convicted. THEN he ran before sentencing he has stayed in countries that have no extradition treaties with the US and finally he popped into a country which did and was arrested by the Swiss well i knew about the out of jurisdiction voiding the statute but i did not realize he has been out of the country the entire time but i still think if the victim is not pushing it they should quit wasting the taxpayer money on it they should be going after criminals that have victims that are pushing for prosecution what if the victim does not testify they wasted time and resources on a dead case (per above she said she is not seeking further punisment) so why push it (an attention seeker must be in charge) but hey what do i know |
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what ever happened to statute of limitations this was 22 years ago are they saying he has been out of the jurisdiction of the prosicuting authority all that time (thus voiding the statute) and it is not like he kept a low profile (they knew where to find him) so is the statute really nullified ????? if the victim is not pursuing why are they wasting taxpayer money it is not like there are not more drastic things that need attention he plead guilty so the statue does not apply .. he ran after pleading guilty .. |
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