I believe it..I thought it was already at 30 percent

This is another interesting article

http://www.cancerfightingstrategies.com/oxygen-and-cancer.html#sthash.fKdDqP8f.dpbs

Mental illness and mental disorders are real. I know because I`m 1 of the millions diagnosed with a mental condition, and it`s a struggle in itself to deal with, then let alone the stigma people put on you.

Seriously? That website?

Its well know that the website you linked to is nothing more than a collection of advertisements disguised as dishonest 'educational' materials.

Nothing you read on that website can be trusted.

That one advertisement-disguised-as-science-education you linked to has dozens of errors in it. It actually makes me want to cry when I read 'articles' like that, and see people exploiting others' ignorance of science. They do such a good job of 'making it all sciency' - how is a layperson to know that its complete ********?

After wanting to cry for the lies and the exploitation, then I want to write massive rebuttals exposing the ******** - as if the snake-oil fans would really listen. See, the snake oil salespeople have somehow convinced millions of people that anyone who values truth, and who want to expose snake oil - well they are actually just apologists for the evil pharm companies and the evil Medical Establishment and should be ignored.

I'm not going to waste my time doing a rebuttal to the whole page, but I will gladly discuss any individual claim on that page which you or anyone else would like to have examined.

Here is some information about sugar and mental health. Sugar is more harmful in many ways than most people realize.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/where-science-meets-the-steps/201309/4-ways-sugar-could-be-harming-your-mental-health

Mental illness is real, just so easy to fake...imo

It's great to read an article that doesn't overstate their case, or blatantly attempt to confuse or mislead people.

I've spend years of my life abstaining from added sugar. My greatest vice was fruit juice.

The best thing about severely limiting my sugar intake was the flavors that came out in other foods. A sweet potato tasted more delicious than cake ever did, but it took weeks or months of ultra-low-sugar consumption before my experience of flavor of foods started to change like that.

It still amazes me, when reading ingredients, how common it is to add sugar to packaged foods. Its in nearly everything.

I found a few more sites with the same informaion..you just have to ignore the parts where they are promoting products..I was focusing on the main article.

Nobody asked you to waste your time.thats entirely your choice and you have the right to your opinion..I respect that..so respect mine please?

A few years ago I assisted a family member to Issels in Mexico, an alternative to conventional medicine. While there, I met a man who told me that he HAD pancreatic cancer..he told me that his own doctor told him there was nothing they could do for him. This man said today he is cancer free because of the alternative medicine. Now, is very rare that anyone will survive that kind of cancer, let alone someone who was full of it.

I met another woman who was there, she told me that her husband was diagnosed with melanoma and went in for therapy during the early stages and beat it. Melanoma is agressive and rarely do people survive after a year.

Personally...and just my opinion.. after what I saw my family memeber go through...never in hell would I ever trust our medical system if I ever developed cancer or any other disease.

Conventional medicine typically does not cure any disease. They supply us wih chemicals to relieve the pain of the symptoms instead.

Its BIG business to keep us sick and this is not paranoia.

I will admit that chemo works sometimes but it also compromises the immune system greatly and people who have been in remission through chemotherapy need to be extremely careful not to get sick. Thats not an option to me.

My appologies to the OP...went way on this thread

Yeah, "information" is a nice word. Claims don't have to be true for them to qualify as 'information'. Anything can be 'information'. I'm reading a pleasant work of fiction (science fiction) today, and that's also 'information'.

You will find this false 'information' about oxygen and cancer on many, many sites. It doesn't make it any less false.



Oh dear! Cuddle bunny! They got you! You've been had!

Yes, there are parts of the website where they explicitly promote products.

And there are parts where they do not explicitly promote products.

But the entire website is a collection of advertisements! Every sentence in every paragraph (of original content, at least) on that website is part of the advertisement.

Isn't that crazy? Its a truly amazing, ingenious, but horribly devious form of advertisement.

As long as you are unaware of the fact that the entire site is an advertisement, you can easily fall prey to their deception, which is: Convince you that their treatments are useful by pretending to be writing objective science articles on various treatment methods.

I honestly don't understand what you are asking. Do you feel that I have disrespected you? If so, I'm sorry.

See, I don't think of these issues in terms of 'rights to opinions'. I don't even see what 'rights' has to do with it.

Oxygen does what oxygen does. Our 'rights' have nothing to do with it.

Cancer does what cancer does. Our 'opinions' have nothing to do with it.

That is what matters. To treat cancer, we first have to face reality and work with what is true, what is really happening. Websites filled with lies won't help us, they will hurt us.

You have good intentions, but you've inadvertently spread lies by linking that site. Those lies were intentionally crafted and promoted to rob people of money selling useless 'cures'.


What would you do if I went around telling people that rubbing my belly would cure them of cancer? And they should all pay me to rub my belly? What if people started believing me and paying me? And what if you knew that I made it up? The other people didn't see that I was lying, but you knew that I was lying. What would you do?

If you are a good person, I think you would speak up and try to stop people from being scammed by me.

Because of altmed? How could he possibly know? He had cancer. He did some altmed thing. Now that cancer is gone.

For all we know, his cancer would be gone anyway. We don't know whether his treatment had anything to do with it.

In order to determine whether treatments like that are actually helping, we need to study large groups of people. When we do, we often find that altmed practices are simply not helping.




Sure. And those that died after doing the altmed treatment didn't live to tell you that the did the treatment and survived.



Again, correlation is not causation. Did she say what kind of therapy she did?



This may surprise you, but I wouldn't either! I emphatically and absolutely do not trust 'the medical system'. I never let anyone start any kind of therapy or treatment on me (or a loved one, if I can influence them) without thoroughly researching the situation and the options myself. I seek out the advice and perspectives of other parties.

I think its sad for people like you and I, that we don't have a primary physician that we trust.





Yes, alternative medicine IS big business. Alternative medicine practitioners do not want us to get better, they want us to stay sick and keep paying for their useless oxygen therapy, etc.

Conventional medicine, I'm sorry to say, does not know what causes cancer and although they have dozens of different treatments and drugs for it, they still know very little about it.

Alternative medicine? Well let's see, most of it that I know about is simply EAT HEALTHIER, THINK BETTER, AVOID STRESS, etc.

Oxygen... deep breathing pumps the heart and gets rid of stress. Stress kills. Most people know this.

Conventional medicine is so slow to discover the things that are killing us... like sugar.

People into alternative therapy have known this for 30 years or more. Probably more.

We still have so much poison in the supermarket it is almost impossible to find healthy food.

Aspartame will kill you, trans fats, soybeans are all genetically modified, so is corn and all corn products.

The food industry is slow to discover what is causing cancer....BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CAUSING CANCER.

Drug therapy.... cures nothing.

It masks symptoms and has side effects that are often worst than the ailment they are trying to treat.

Prescription drugs are killing people.

Medicine is more about the drug industry than health. It is all about selling drugs.

How about we start by eating better food without all the damn sugar, artificial additives, genetically modified organisms, over processed fat, and outright poison that they are putting in these mass produced food items on the shelves in the super market?

How about we start there? Probably because proper diets would cause people to be healthy and the drug companies would be out of business.

No one would say conventional medicine knows everything but they know a LOT about cancer. Smoking is BAD!!!!!!! They can actually cure some kinds of cancer that couldn't be touched a few decades ago. The new cancer vaccine shows a world of promise.

Conversely, there are types of cancer that are tough. Some are rare and do not have that many resources pointed at a cure. In addition, there are many everyday items (like sugar) that upset our systems and cause our bodies to go haywire.

I try to think like a caveman and wonder what they would have been eating thousands of years ago. Lots of fresh fruit and veggies and a moderate protein diet seems to be what we are built to consume.

I think GMO foods are a big danger.

30 years before modern medicine and the medical community discovered that sugar and artificial colors and flavors aggravates children with ADD and hyperactivity, my sister was treating her daughter with diet after reading the Feingold Diet for Hyperactivity.

The Feingold diet is a food elimination program developed by Ben F. Feingold, MD to treat hyperactivity. It eliminates a number of artificial colors and artificial flavors, aspartame, three petroleum-based preservatives, and (at least initially) certain salicylates. There has been much debate about the efficacy of this program. The mainstream medical establishment dismissed it as an "outmoded approach" lacking evidence and efficacy.

They are still trying to deny it's effectiveness and are still putting kids on DRUGS.

They are too damn slow to change, and to damn quick to approve new drugs with dangerous side effects.

If they are to be considered the "official medical authority" then I'm all for THE DREADED AND CRITICIZED "ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE."

This is not to say that there are NOT a lot of rip offs in that arena too. But people AND DOCTORS should first DO NO HARM.

The problem with doctors is that they prescribe drugs without giving much thought or questioning the patient about what he or she is eating.

Some have even proclaimed that your diet is not a factor to your disease. Really?

Well it depends on the disease, doesn't it?

It also depends on the person's diet. Anyone living exclusively of Ramen Cup-a-soup might have a significant dietary component to their disease process, but (for the same disease) someone with a nominally healthy diet might not benefit by changing their diet.

Back to disease-dependence - most people I know who suffer health issues have problems that ARE affected by their diet and lifestyle, but there are exceptions.

Last I checked, there wasn't any evidence that a person (eating a nominally healthy diet) who already has skin cancer could have a significant impact on their cancer by changing their diet. I've known raw foodists and such that believed otherwise, but that was just their dogma - there was no real evidence for it.

So I think that there are situations where a particular doctor will declare to some particular patient "just keep eating as you are and don't worry about diet, its not going to help you with this" and they are just telling the truth.

That same doctor will try to get their patients focused on diet if the disease is high blood pressure or heart disease or (maybe?) colon cancer.

Mental Illness as a whole has gotten a bad rap. The brain is the most complexed part of the human body and of course it can get sick or damaged. Because of the complexities the brain has been the most complicated part to get a medical grip on. A bad mixture of blood/oxygen caused by even simple stress can throw the brain into all types of reaction modes, producing all types of "not normal" behavioral symptoms. You get those nerve endings not firing correctly and you can end up with a life that is foreign to you.

I think the sad part for many is that they are handed diagnosis that put a mark on them the rest of their lives. This will change and has gotten far better but still has a long way to go.

What you may not know is that most people who have suffered blood related issues have had, and many continue to have mental problems.

You should also know that mental issues are very physical and as tests become more defining we are seeing that the shorts that are taking place in the brain can be treated. You see shock treatment was not really that far off just used incorrectly. Your nerves are electrical and as we find how to track down exactly where the lack of firing is happening and how, we will get to the place through electricity and vibration treatments ways to correct many brain problems. We might not get to see this come full circle in our life times (for people my age) but we will get there.

I began having seizures (blanking out) in the late 90's but didn't know what they were for many years. Not getting a good diagnosis myself I ended up having TIA's (mini strokes) and as a result of what some say bad treatment of meds or just a natural progression of pushing myself ended up with amnesia. I'll save you the details, but lets say I learned a lot about mental illness by being put through the programs. You see when I would be traveling and loose my memory I was put into therapy with every type of mental group or addiction group you could imagine until they realized I had amnesia. It was more like a funny movie really, but at times very confusing. I became so interested in the people I met that I actually went through classes and learned about many disorders and maybe not so surprisingly how many people have disorders.

One thing I want to share with you who have brain issues. You are not weird, well maybe we all are lol, but you shouldn't feel less than anyone else. You have a sick brain just like they have a sick organ in any part of the body. I worked with cancer patients and mental and a sickness is a sickness and we should all love each other period.

Can I also say something else? Thanks.

Unless you have had or have a mental illness you really have no idea what we as patients go through. You don't pull yourself up from your boot straps. That's the most silly thing I ever heard. How can you pull yourself up if you have no idea you have boot straps? If you haven't had this illness please be more understanding and quit trying to give advice about something you have no clue about. These folks are suffering in ways that make no sense to you and you trying to encourage them may just be the very thing that may throw them into panic. I've learned this by being around, and also having folks telling me things that made no sense at all because I had no recall and thought they were telling me good advice. Can you imagine sitting in AA or NA and yet not being a drinker or doper? I don't know my name let alone what I did or didn't do. Don't get me wrong it was hilarious, but that's because I'm a pretty funny guy. If I would have had depression bad and been sitting there not knowing who I was it could have been really bad.

Others minds are not something to screw with.

For those going through it, I'm with ya brothers and sisters. Your far from alone. Do you know how many entertainers have mental illnesses? Also it has nothing to do with your smarts. Your wiring is screwed up, that's all, and it can get screwed up with anyone. And I totally agree with the folks saying the diet is a big issue. Or like myself you may have PTSD. Things happen in life and you whether born with an illness or one be laid on you shouldn't be made to feel like you are not a part of this world or you did something bad.

peace and love to you always

:)