Topic: A President Was Killed the Last Time Right-Wing Hatred Ran W
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Sun 09/20/09 10:58 AM

Very interesting thread. drinker

It's almost like a perfect storm coming together with the hate, racism, bad economy and wars.


yep, that's what makes it kinda frightening..

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Sun 09/20/09 11:03 AM



Where is the truth in what you posted? It's someones opinion.
Seems to me it's trying to intice violence.
Maybe if some of the liberals would stop trying to prove racism that isn't there on a majority, or calling people nazi's, or the CIA liers, I could go on, you left wingers are the ones doing it.


Look at what you said. I mean, just look at it. Is this really how you view the world?

Yes I know what I said and I stand by it. Look at the opinion posted, you deem that ok and is that how you view the world?


First, I will grant you that some authors may be dishonest and manipulative and give a bit of lip service to a 'slightly less biased' view to gain credibility amongst readers, only to promote a truly, intensely biased agenda...

Having said that, if I take the opening post at face value, it is not nearly as divisive nor as caught up in the "its all us against them, and they are the enemy" mentality that is more directly implied by your words. Maybe you are simply more honest than that author, but when you say "you left wingers are the ones doing it" it does sound a lot like you see the world divided into two groups, the right wingers and the left wingers.

See, in the opening post, there is mention of a 'radical right'. When I read this, I don't see any suggestion that 'the right is radical' nor that 'the radical right reflects the right as a whole', only that within 'the right' there is a group that is (far) more radical than the majority, and that THEY are the ones being focused on in the writing.

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Sun 09/20/09 11:04 AM
The dumbest thing anyone could do is waste Hussein.
That would put dumba$$ Biden in charge and the temptation of power might be too much for Pelosi. She might have Biden put down.

We got Hussein in a good position. Just let him ride his time out and take his place in history along with Carter. Not only being an embarrasment but the very first half-white president.


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Sun 09/20/09 11:08 AM

The dumbest thing anyone could do is waste Hussein.
That would put dumba$$ Biden in charge and the temptation of power might be too much for Pelosi. She might have Biden put down.

We got Hussein in a good position. Just let him ride his time out and take his place in history along with Carter. Not only being an embarrasment but the very first half-white president.




Willing2, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but your words suggest a lot of contempt. Do you have a lot contempt for our president?

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Sun 09/20/09 11:09 AM


The dumbest thing anyone could do is waste Hussein.
That would put dumba$$ Biden in charge and the temptation of power might be too much for Pelosi. She might have Biden put down.

We got Hussein in a good position. Just let him ride his time out and take his place in history along with Carter. Not only being an embarrasment but the very first half-white president.




Willing2, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but your words suggest a lot of contempt. Do you have a lot contempt for our president?



rofl rofl rofl

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Sun 09/20/09 11:13 AM



The dumbest thing anyone could do is waste Hussein.
That would put dumba$$ Biden in charge and the temptation of power might be too much for Pelosi. She might have Biden put down.

We got Hussein in a good position. Just let him ride his time out and take his place in history along with Carter. Not only being an embarrasment but the very first half-white president.




Willing2, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but your words suggest a lot of contempt. Do you have a lot contempt for our president?



rofl rofl rofl


I'm not trying to mock anyone - sometimes people say absurd things partly because it amuses them to do so. I don't think he is 100% serious in his post, which leaves a lot of open questions.

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Sun 09/20/09 11:14 AM



The dumbest thing anyone could do is waste Hussein.
That would put dumba$$ Biden in charge and the temptation of power might be too much for Pelosi. She might have Biden put down.

We got Hussein in a good position. Just let him ride his time out and take his place in history along with Carter. Not only being an embarrasment but the very first half-white president.




Willing2, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but your words suggest a lot of contempt. Do you have a lot contempt for our president?



rofl rofl rofl

Contempt?
No. If you noticed, I didn't call for his execution. Just the opposite.
He's just incompitent, full of himself, and owned by the Corporations. I think they call it bein' a media ho.
I like changin' it up a bit and use his real name once in a while.

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Sun 09/20/09 11:24 AM
Contempt?
No. If you noticed, I didn't call for his execution.



This is a strange statement. Are you equating contempt with desire to execute?



He's just incompitent, full of himself, and owned by the Corporations.


I agree with the second and third; but those are basically prerequisite for being president, and have been since before either of us were born.

I like changin' it up a bit and use his real name once in a while.


You haven't done so in this thread. Though you've used a portion of his real name - I'd wager to associate him with another with the same name, who is already held in contempt by many in our society. This suggests that you would prefer to cultivate unreasoned animosity towards him. Of course I'm speculating about your motives, and you are free to correct me.




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Sun 09/20/09 11:28 AM
how can anyone say ALL of something???? does anyone know ALL????

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Sun 09/20/09 11:42 AM

how can anyone say ALL of something???? does anyone know ALL????


YR, which post is this in response to?

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Sun 09/20/09 11:45 AM


how can anyone say ALL of something???? does anyone know ALL????


YR, which post is this in response to?


anyone that generalizes. I have been saying all along that there is good and bad in every group. that doesn't make the whole group good or bad

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Sun 09/20/09 11:47 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 09/20/09 11:51 AM

Contempt?
No. If you noticed, I didn't call for his execution.



This is a strange statement. Are you equating contempt with desire to execute?



He's just incompitent, full of himself, and owned by the Corporations.


I agree with the second and third; but those are basically prerequisite for being president, and have been since before either of us were born.

I like changin' it up a bit and use his real name once in a while.




You haven't done so in this thread. Though you've used a portion of his real name - I'd wager to associate him with another with the same name, who is already held in contempt by many in our society. This suggests that you would prefer to cultivate unreasoned animosity towards him. Of course I'm speculating about your motives, and you are free to correct me.





The term president obama is not his whole name either.
His name is barack. (sp)
His name is Hussein.
His name is obama.
You use which you choose and until he passes a law forbiding it, I am free to call him Hussein.

Psyco speaking'
There are a couple ways of looking at statements made.
Freudian and Jungian.
Freudian slips.
Jungian precisions.
One of Husseins statements was, "We live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it."
If you say I might have contempt for someone who wishes and his goal according to his statement is to take down our Nation. Then yes, i have contempt.Don't you? Or, do you wish to also see our Nation destroyed as does he?

Your pretty good at cutting phrases to suit your needs. You are free to assume anything you wish. For now, we have freedom of speech.

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Sun 09/20/09 12:20 PM

The term president obama is not his whole name either.


You are right - thats his title, followed by his last name, which the 'formal' way of addressing any president.

You use which you choose and until he passes a law forbiding it, I am free to call him Hussein.


Ain't it great?!

By the way, I am not challenging your action (calling him by his middle name) - I'm questioning your motivation.


Psyco speaking'
There are a couple ways of looking at statements made.
Freudian and Jungian.
Freudian slips.
Jungian precisions.


I'm still curious whether you reject my speculations - but I don't want to press you.


One of Husseins statements was, "We live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you’ll join with me as we try to change it."
If you say I might have contempt for someone who wishes and his goal according to his statement is to take down our Nation. Then yes, i have contempt.Don't you? Or, do you wish to also see our Nation destroyed as does he?


That is very, very interesting, willing2! Is being the greatest nation enough? Shouldn't we want to continuge to change, to improve? The quote you give could be inspiring for some, while emphasizing that there is more to be done, more opportunity to improve.

You ask if I have contempt for him - I don't think so, though I feel frustration regarding many of his decision, and anger regarding a few.



Your pretty good at cutting phrases to suit your needs.


Being clear about what portions of another's words we are responding to can avoid misunderstandings. I do deliberately put the focus on selected phrases - if you feel I am taking things out of context in way that is misleading or unfair, please let me know.

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Sun 09/20/09 12:22 PM

I have been saying all along that there is good and bad in every group. that doesn't make the whole group good or bad


flowerforyou

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Sun 09/20/09 12:31 PM
Edited by boo2u on Sun 09/20/09 12:56 PM




All the "right wingers" I know of revere Kennedy in a way because he rebelled against the fiat money establishment and helped stabilize the dollar (which lasted till Nixon and his fellow evil-doers destroyed the last vestige of stable money). I personally suspect that this is one of the reasons he was killed-the international bankers would've lost their power and prestige if Kennedy had been able to continue pushing for sound money. If he had survived to finish his legacy, we wouldn't be tied down in so many wars for profit and imperial conquest (like Iraq).


Okay, good guess, I guess, but the some of the same hatred was used against him as we are seeing today except it is stronger today because of the racists hatred.




Since I wasn't alive then, you'll have to tell me what "right-wingers" hated Kenndy. Every time I hear a "right-winger" talk about Kennedy, it's in a tone of reverence. (they especially seem fond of the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban embargo)


My mother and all her conservative friends hated Kennedy... still to this day she lets everyone know what she thought of him when it comes up...


Same here, conservatives in my family hated his guts. I'm probably the only one of my family that even shed a tear for Kennedy. I better add that I don't know what 'all' conservatives felt about him or I'll have the YellowRose on my tail... Oh wait, meatballs don't have a tail... Soory didn't mean to add humor... bigsmile

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Mon 09/21/09 09:34 PM
Edited by cashu on Mon 09/21/09 09:38 PM

Opinion

A President Was Killed the Last Time Right-Wing Hatred Ran Wild Like This
Friday 18 September 2009

by: Eric Boehlert | Media Matters for America



President John F. Kennedy in Dallas. (Photo wikimedia commons)
That being John F. Kennedy, who was gunned down in Dallas, of course.

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I hate telling people anything but OSWALD was a liberial .jack ruby was the cover up shooter . pres johnson was the liberial who made jack lennady go to texas that day . he didn't want to go .the closest you can say the right wing killed any one is ml king and i don't think ray did that but some black power guys did him . ray really wasn't very politicial . there are some really good books on this .. read a book..

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Mon 09/21/09 09:51 PM




All the "right wingers" I know of revere Kennedy in a way because he rebelled against the fiat money establishment and helped stabilize the dollar (which lasted till Nixon and his fellow evil-doers destroyed the last vestige of stable money). I personally suspect that this is one of the reasons he was killed-the international bankers would've lost their power and prestige if Kennedy had been able to continue pushing for sound money. If he had survived to finish his legacy, we wouldn't be tied down in so many wars for profit and imperial conquest (like Iraq).

Okay, good guess, I guess, but the some of the same hatred was used against him as we are seeing today except it is stronger today because of the racists hatred.

Since I wasn't alive then, you'll have to tell me what "right-wingers" hated Kenndy. Every time I hear a "right-winger" talk about Kennedy, it's in a tone of reverence. (they especially seem fond of the Bay of Pigs invasion and the Cuban embargo)


My mother and all her conservative friends hated Kennedy... still to this day she lets everyone know what she thought of him when it comes up...


My mom was the opposite.lol

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Mon 09/21/09 09:54 PM



The truth does hurt sometimes.

Sadly, this truth here could hurt many extremely bad.

Where is the truth in what you posted? It's someones opinion.
Seems to me it's trying to intice violence.
Maybe if some of the liberals would stop trying to prove racism that isn't there on a majority, or calling people nazi's, or the CIA liers, I could go on, you left wingers are the ones doing it.


laugh

It's definitely not just the left wingers calling names. You can clearly see that here in the forums.


From the forums and Fox news, I see that the left wingers don't do half as often as the rights.

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Mon 09/21/09 09:54 PM
my parents didn't care much for Kennedy either...

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Mon 09/21/09 10:19 PM
I saw my mom cry when he died.