Topic: Net Neutrality
mo_muirnin's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:09 AM
For those of you that don't know..Net neutrality is a way to keep the internet available for all people, without worries that your ISP provider will cut youtube, microsoft, yahoo or even google from your computer. (including several other websites)

Comcast has been in a never ending battle in court against the FCC and individuals for violating the net neutrality rules and well. the FCC has made it official, they will regulate Net Neutrality and all ISP providers cannot and will not cut any website, nor will they limit your bandwidth if you visit say google vs. Microsoft bing.

I haven't read anything about this yet being included in the Net Neutrality Rules...but as far as I know your ISP provider can limit your bandwidth (downloading) of Torrents through bit torrent or utorrent(or another torrent provider) by allowing no more than 24kbps...if you see that when downloading anything on torrent, chances are you're being limited. But since FCC announced Net neutrality lives on, then I am thinking an ISP can no longer control torrent bandwidth.

What do you guys and gals think?

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:55 AM

For those of you that don't know..Net neutrality is a way to keep the internet available for all people, without worries that your ISP provider will cut youtube, microsoft, yahoo or even google from your computer. (including several other websites)

Comcast has been in a never ending battle in court against the FCC and individuals for violating the net neutrality rules and well. the FCC has made it official, they will regulate Net Neutrality and all ISP providers cannot and will not cut any website, nor will they limit your bandwidth if you visit say google vs. Microsoft bing.

I haven't read anything about this yet being included in the Net Neutrality Rules...but as far as I know your ISP provider can limit your bandwidth (downloading) of Torrents through bit torrent or utorrent(or another torrent provider) by allowing no more than 24kbps...if you see that when downloading anything on torrent, chances are you're being limited. But since FCC announced Net neutrality lives on, then I am thinking an ISP can no longer control torrent bandwidth.

What do you guys and gals think?
bigsmile I think that is awesomedrinker

no photo
Sat 09/19/09 09:07 AM
Sounds good, but would like to know more about it.

willing2's photo
Sat 09/19/09 09:09 AM


For those of you that don't know..Net neutrality is a way to keep the internet available for all people, without worries that your ISP provider will cut youtube, microsoft, yahoo or even google from your computer. (including several other websites)

Comcast has been in a never ending battle in court against the FCC and individuals for violating the net neutrality rules and well. the FCC has made it official, they will regulate Net Neutrality and all ISP providers cannot and will not cut any website, nor will they limit your bandwidth if you visit say google vs. Microsoft bing.

I haven't read anything about this yet being included in the Net Neutrality Rules...but as far as I know your ISP provider can limit your bandwidth (downloading) of Torrents through bit torrent or utorrent(or another torrent provider) by allowing no more than 24kbps...if you see that when downloading anything on torrent, chances are you're being limited. But since FCC announced Net neutrality lives on, then I am thinking an ISP can no longer control torrent bandwidth.

What do you guys and gals think?
bigsmile I think that is awesomedrinker

Very interesting.
Now, what did she say? I'm dumb as a rock on this one:tongue:

warmachine's photo
Sat 09/19/09 03:10 PM
Basically Government wants to control the internet.

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 09/19/09 03:34 PM
I think LOLcats already have a firm hold on the internet lol

tanyaann's photo
Sat 09/19/09 03:34 PM
I didn't know that internet providers were limiting internet access to certain sites. ohwell

TJN's photo
Sat 09/19/09 03:38 PM
I haven't heard anything about it. I do recall hearing Obama wants to be able to sut off access to the internet in case off an "emergency" I'll try to find out about it.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sat 09/19/09 03:42 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Sat 09/19/09 03:43 PM

I didn't know that internet providers were limiting internet access to certain sites. ohwell


that has been in the news a bit

they have to pay for the bandwidth and certain internet providers (Comcast was one) were caught limiting bandwith on people who thought they were paying for unlimited bandwith. on stuff like downloading music and movies. if I remember right they were fined by the FTC or the FCC for it

tanyaann's photo
Sat 09/19/09 04:01 PM


I didn't know that internet providers were limiting internet access to certain sites. ohwell


that has been in the news a bit

they have to pay for the bandwidth and certain internet providers (Comcast was one) were caught limiting bandwith on people who thought they were paying for unlimited bandwith. on stuff like downloading music and movies. if I remember right they were fined by the FTC or the FCC for it


I don't watch the news... so I don't catch everything.

I have att as a provider. I pay for the 'fastest' speed. And I don't appear to have any problems. *shrugs shoulders*

Quietman_2009's photo
Sat 09/19/09 04:03 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Sat 09/19/09 04:05 PM



I didn't know that internet providers were limiting internet access to certain sites. ohwell


that has been in the news a bit

they have to pay for the bandwidth and certain internet providers (Comcast was one) were caught limiting bandwith on people who thought they were paying for unlimited bandwith. on stuff like downloading music and movies. if I remember right they were fined by the FTC or the FCC for it


I don't watch the news... so I don't catch everything.

I have att as a provider. I pay for the 'fastest' speed. And I don't appear to have any problems. *shrugs shoulders*


btw you can test your internet speed here (I like the second one better)

http://speedtest.net

http://speakeasy.net/speedtest

tanyaann's photo
Sat 09/19/09 04:04 PM




I didn't know that internet providers were limiting internet access to certain sites. ohwell


that has been in the news a bit

they have to pay for the bandwidth and certain internet providers (Comcast was one) were caught limiting bandwith on people who thought they were paying for unlimited bandwith. on stuff like downloading music and movies. if I remember right they were fined by the FTC or the FCC for it


I don't watch the news... so I don't catch everything.

I have att as a provider. I pay for the 'fastest' speed. And I don't appear to have any problems. *shrugs shoulders*


btw you can test your internet speed here

http://speedtest.net

http://speakeasy.net/speedtest


:thumbsup: To see if they are really providing what I am paying for, huh!?! :thumbsup:

Quietman_2009's photo
Sat 09/19/09 04:06 PM
exactly

I got those from a tech rep when I was watching Sunday Night Football and wasnt getting the streaming good enough and complained to NBC about it

tanyaann's photo
Sat 09/19/09 04:11 PM
Edited by tanyaann on Sat 09/19/09 04:12 PM

exactly

I got those from a tech rep when I was watching Sunday Night Football and wasnt getting the streaming good enough and complained to NBC about it


Can it vary by computer ... cause I am definately am paying about $10-15 more than what I am getting. (and on the att website of course it says 'up to'. And I am on a wireless router, does that effect speed?

mo_muirnin's photo
Sat 09/19/09 07:01 PM


exactly

I got those from a tech rep when I was watching Sunday Night Football and wasnt getting the streaming good enough and complained to NBC about it


Can it vary by computer ... cause I am definately am paying about $10-15 more than what I am getting. (and on the att website of course it says 'up to'. And I am on a wireless router, does that effect speed?


Unless your ethernet adapater is set below 100mbps then you might not get all of the bandwith to use. You should find out what ethernet adapter you have by going into your "devices" in your computer....Mine is 100mbps, which is actually pretty standard.

But - it also does depend on how many people are online. If there is alot then yes, your internet will slow down.

no photo
Sun 09/20/09 12:33 PM
NET NEUTRALITY IS A LIE!

Warmachine and Mo, who seem to be offering completely different takes on this, are both correct - because the phrase 'net neutrality' is being abused. Its just ripe for abuse.

Most people have no idea about this issue, or what it means. They do have a geek friend, though, who told them that 'net neutrality' is important and necessary (by which they meant - we need to stop large coporporations from arbitrarily controlling our internet access!).

Then some law maker comes along with a proposal that has nothing with the above, and calls it 'net neutrality', and since the words 'net neutrality' has been given such a good spin, many may think this proposal is a 'good thing'.

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Sun 09/20/09 12:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality

From wikipedia:

Network neutrality (also net neutrality, Internet neutrality) is a principle proposed for residential broadband networks and potentially for all networks. A neutral broadband network is one that is free of restrictions on content, sites, or platforms, on the kinds of equipment that may be attached, and on the modes of communication allowed, as well as one where communication is not unreasonably degraded by other communication streams.[1][2][3]

The principle states that if a given user pays for a certain level of internet access, and another user pays for a given level of access, that the two users should be able to connect to each other at that given rate of access.

Though the term did not enter popular use until several years later, since the early 2000s advocates of net neutrality and associated rules have raised concerns about the ability of broadband providers to use their last mile infrastructure to block Internet applications and content (e.g. websites, services, protocols); particularly those of competitors. In the US particularly, but elsewhere as well, the possibility of regulations designed to mandate the neutrality of the Internet has been subject to fierce debate.