Topic: Army Units Deployed on US Streets???? | |
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Edited by
Up2Us
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Thu 09/17/09 03:57 PM
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Sounds like something obama would do, he's not much different than bush and he did it in L.A. |
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Dog refuses treat from Obama http://www.pawnation.com/2009/08/24/dog-as-political-pundit/?icid=main
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so whats different . we already have soldiers from all over the world . we have a bunch of Russian soldiers here . Israeli soldiers a bunch of Ben la din people , Mexican federales . and many many more .. your government loves you . o yea Iranian ones to .
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damit were all gonna die they got us surrounded on every level , ok im gonna go throw up now lol
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I guessing South Carolina will be their first stop.
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I think that they think that they need troops here to help the local enforcement for the upcoming protests that the American citizens are forming. Because frankly, we are getting tired of the government take over. The government are already building camps to house us in. They know whats coming, so they're getting prepared.
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that was pretty much a non story
so they are training to provide civil assistance in the even of a WMD attack? so what? it also listed thhree times before when Federal troops were used to maintain order. I didnt see any police state resulting from that either too much anti-government conspiracy hysteria |
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What's the conspiracy? Frankly it's a violation of posse comitatus and historically, these types of things always moves into tyranny. It's called incrementalism.
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training for a potentiality is not a violation
and if they are called out and deployed in accordance with the Constitution then there isn't a problem. |
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On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on Oct 17, 2006. Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". It provided that: The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. |
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On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on Oct 17, 2006. Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". It provided that: The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. |
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Edited by
Quietman_2009
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Sat 10/03/09 09:37 AM
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On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on Oct 17, 2006. Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". It provided that: The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. ummmmm all of the above. Yanno if we don't know yet isnt it better to plan and be prepared. Look at New Orleans and Katrina. THEY weren't prepared and it was a giant clusterfcuk from the municipal to the state to the federal level the military constantly planns and trains and prepares for EVERYTING. so when the times comes to act there is no confusion or indecision I rather think that if, say a magnitude 9 earthquake were to hit California, or a 50 tsunami hitting Manhattan, or a nucular terrorist attack on Washington that those residents would be awfully glad and grateful to have the infrastructure and preparedness that the military could provide as a result of this training and planning |
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On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on Oct 17, 2006. Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". It provided that: The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. ummmmm all of the above. Yanno if we don't know yet isnt it better to plan and be prepared. Look at New Orleans and Katrina. THEY weren't prepared and it was a giant clusterfcuk from the municipal to the state to the federal level the military constantly planns and trains and prepares for EVERYTING. so when the times comes to act there is no confusion or indecision I rather think that if, say a magnitude 9 earthquake were to hit California, or a 50 tsunami hitting Manhattan, or a nucular terrorist attack on Washington that those residents would be awfully glad and grateful to have the infrastructure and preparedness that the military could provide as a result of this training and planning I personally think the slow responce to Katrina victims was a premeditated action. I have lived through many worse hurricanes than Katrina and the response was pretty quick. Betsy, Camille for a couple. I believe the Gov was curious to see things like, what lengths would desperate people would go to to survive? I mean, intentionally leaving people stranded like they did, could get them a lot of info on human behaviors. Just a thought. |
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Edited by
boo2u
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Sat 10/03/09 11:06 AM
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I went through hurricane Andrew in 1992 and the state was completely unprepared for that storm. I was in Homestead the worst hit, and they didn't bother to tell us we were in an evacuation zone until the bloody storm was over with.
The army got there AFTER we no longer needed them. It was pathetic. Looting everywhere. We all carried side arms because of it. They promised never to be caught off guard like that again.. I will say that once the Army and services did get moving they did a fairly decent job, though it could have been improved, and maybe it has by now. If the government is not prepared for another 9/11, the conspiracy people will be whining about that too. It's getting really old but then Glen Beck and fox will keep the anxiety up in those that see everything the government does as a conspiracy against them personally. |
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I think that they think that they need troops here to help the local enforcement for the upcoming protests that the American citizens are forming. Because frankly, we are getting tired of the government take over. The government are already building camps to house us in. They know whats coming, so they're getting prepared. What's coming? What camps? |
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On September 26, 2006, President Bush urged Congress to consider revising federal laws so that U.S. armed forces could restore public order and enforce laws in the aftermath of a natural disaster, in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. These changes were included in the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122), which was signed into law on Oct 17, 2006. Section 1076 is titled "Use of the Armed Forces in major public emergencies". It provided that: The President may employ the armed forces... to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition... the President determines that... domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order... or [to] suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such... a condition... so hinders the execution of the laws... that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law... or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. ummmmm all of the above. Yanno if we don't know yet isnt it better to plan and be prepared. Look at New Orleans and Katrina. THEY weren't prepared and it was a giant clusterfcuk from the municipal to the state to the federal level the military constantly planns and trains and prepares for EVERYTING. so when the times comes to act there is no confusion or indecision I rather think that if, say a magnitude 9 earthquake were to hit California, or a 50 tsunami hitting Manhattan, or a nucular terrorist attack on Washington that those residents would be awfully glad and grateful to have the infrastructure and preparedness that the military could provide as a result of this training and planning That all makes sense. But...I do wish that they would train more. Andrew and Katrina are two good examples that show that they need to be better trained. |
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I think that they think that they need troops here to help the local enforcement for the upcoming protests that the American citizens are forming. Because frankly, we are getting tired of the government take over. The government are already building camps to house us in. They know whats coming, so they're getting prepared. What's coming? What camps? |
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I think that they think that they need troops here to help the local enforcement for the upcoming protests that the American citizens are forming. Because frankly, we are getting tired of the government take over. The government are already building camps to house us in. They know whats coming, so they're getting prepared. What's coming? What camps? Naww...they're just noisy. There's no conspiracy behind the camps either. It's not like they're a secret. |
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It's not that hard to understand.
We have two choices, a) Yes government, please use my tax money to be prepared to protect my life, restore the order and services I need to live, and help me recover from a disaster. Or, b) Don't train anyone to do anything if it requires government forces to be deployed above the state government level. We've been operating under choice b. But N.O. showed how inadequately local city and state government may be in the face of a large disaster. Most people aren't even aware that LA's state government declined federal N.G. assistance for fear of losing operational control over to the federal government. N.O. police were not functional, state N.G. wasn't called up prior to landfall, city government was literally destroyed in a matter of minutes, etc... It was only after legal maneuvering that the federal government was able to send in emergency relief (too late). And the people effected by that event either live with the state governor's decision now minus a lot of their property, or they died. And a LOT died. The rest of us just seem to want to say something like 'Bush is evil' as an explanation. The issue does need to be addressed at some point beyond claiming government conspiracies at any attempt to do so. There are bigger disasters than hurricanes. And one will eventually hit that effects more of the country. Do we or do we not want our government to be able to act or does someone have a better (yet realistic) solution that doesn't involve federal forces (while keeping in mind how Katrina turned out)? |
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