Topic: Get Loud, Get Angry! No Amnesty, Period!!
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Fri 09/04/09 04:23 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 09/04/09 05:00 PM
Seems, that's the only way Gov. will take us seriously.

http://www.examiner.com/x-17495-San-Diego-Immigration-Policy-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Dont-look-now-Immigration-Reform-is-coming-in-the-back-door

Don’t look now. Immigration Reform is coming in the back door
August 26, 2:11 PMSan Diego Immigration Policy ExaminerCarl

DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP IN THE SENATE- While the activists and the rest of America are waiting for the next move by the Obama Administration on Immigration Reform, some twenty million illegal aliens are quietly waiting at the back door for amnesty. Foolish? Never happen? Think again.

President Obama and the Pelosi-Reid-Emmanuel cartel are about to get spanked on healthcare. They handled this like rank amateurs, which of course at least one of them is. They haven’t a clue what the American people really want nor do they care as they are blinded by their own visions of a social democracy fantasy-land where America no longer leads but follows. Trouble is, we’re following n the footsteps of those who have already failed at social democracy and national healthcare. Nice plan.

No, the healthcare initiative is not going well. If it does pass, it will look nothing like its proponents’ envisioned. Is it likely that fresh on the heals of this defeat, the President and Congress would stick their collective necks out once again to be sized up by the public for a silver platter? I think not.

For one thing, we're coming up on an election year and Harry Reid is in the fight for his political life in Nevada. So is Barbara Boxer in California where she may be facing formidable opponent and former CEO of HP Carly Firoina. None are going to want to raise the hackles of public dissent at least until after the elections are over. From the other side of this however, If they do not get what they want now, the door may shut for a long time. They may have to act, just not politically.

So as the activists on both sides of the debate gird their loins, shine their shields and sharpen their pencils and swords, the Administration is instead skillfully de-fanging the Department of Homeland Security and preparing to address Immigration Reform not as a part of the political process but as a bureaucratic one.

According to a well placed Homeland Security Administrator (who obviously prefers to remain anonymous), the wheels of deceit are already in motion as orders are out to scuttle ICE raids of companies hiring illegal workers, remove key elements of 287G policies, which give local law enforcement the ability to arrest illegal aliens, and to set the stage for the processing of millions of illegal immigrants as newly minted American citizens.

“The plan is to incrementally remove all obstacles for immigration reform without a public debate.” The confidential source said. “Amnesty is a 100% done deal already,” he added.

Not so fast.

Aren’t the American people supposed to weigh in on this through their elected representatives; a public that today is some 75% against amnesty? Well that would be true if the administration actually intended to have a public debate this time. By all accounts…they do not. Or if they have one at all it will be so convoluted that most will be waiting for the other shoe to drop, which it will…on the back stoop.

Here is what you need to watch for in the coming weeks and months. Executive Orders and departmental pronouncements that limit the ability for law enforcement to do its job and a re-tasking of Federal Agents and bureaucrats to other “more important” duties like protecting MEXICO from evil American citizens with guns. Don’t underestimate Executive Orders. As Clinton advisor Paul Begala once said about them: "Stroke of the pen…law of the land…kinda cool." The Obama Administration is rife with Clintonista’s who made circling around a Republican Congress an art form.

Watch for the pieces of the immigration reform puzzle to be presented to congress incrementally as amendments that seemingly get tough on illegal immigration only to have their teeth pulled out once they are law through administrative procedures. Excellent programs like E-verify may sail through only to be disassembled by bureaucrats. Other amendments will get passed by voice vote (so no one can claim responsibility) to appease the right and then bury them or dramatically alter them in committee.

Rumor has it the President has taken to doing magic tricks in his spare time. The sleight of hand skills required will serve him well in the coming months. Read every word of every bill and scrutinize the Amendments closely. Each time something having to so with immigration comes before Congress, call your Representative and tell them what you think. Let them know you are paying attention. Shut down the Senate switchboard once again if you have to. Do it every day. Use excellent free fax tools like those at NumbersUSA.com and throw them a few bucks if you can. I have gotten a written response from every legislator I have ever faxed. Someone reads them.

So the next few months should be interesting. Pundits on the left and right are now suggesting that Immigration Reform has already eclipsed Healthcare in the public spotlight. More than 130 immigration reform advocates met at the White House last week to strategize. Many are funded in one way or another with your tax dollars. They are preparing for a robust public debate.

Or are they?

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Fri 09/04/09 06:38 PM

Seems, that's the only way Gov. will take us seriously.

http://www.examiner.com/x-17495-San-Diego-Immigration-Policy-Examiner~y2009m8d26-Dont-look-now-Immigration-Reform-is-coming-in-the-back-door

Don’t look now. Immigration Reform is coming in the back door
August 26, 2:11 PMSan Diego Immigration Policy ExaminerCarl


For one thing, we're coming up on an election year and Harry Reid is in the fight for his political life in Nevada. So is Barbara Boxer in California where she may be facing formidable opponent and former CEO of HP Carly Firoina.
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don,t get excided about CARLY FIROINA boxer is a crook and should be in jaik like all the other crimanals in ca. CARLY FIRONIA is not an improv ment . just the trash in the other party . just another dirty white girl .


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Fri 09/04/09 06:56 PM
ahhh..willing stole my article and made a new thread... it's ok though..

cashu's photo
Sun 09/06/09 07:48 PM
pbs had a show this morning called LATINS .. the were talking about the new amastid law coming up and about after that . they say as soon as the border is closed the have a plan on how they are going to sneek the reat of the cremanils up . that would be about 50 million more .go ahead sit on your hands see what there going to give you besides the bird.

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Sun 09/06/09 08:20 PM
Achh!

no more mexican cremanils!!

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Sun 09/06/09 08:28 PM

Achh!

no more mexican cremanils!!


rofl

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Mon 09/07/09 07:15 AM


Achh!

no more mexican cremanils!!


rofl

Now, what is so funny about securing our borders from Terrorists, drugs and Illegals?

What could be so funny about taking the jobs from Illegals and getting Americans and Legal Immigrants back to work?

What is funny about prosecuting Employers and Corp. for hiring and exploiting the Illegals?

Pro-Illegal is IMO, Anti-American.

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Mon 09/07/09 07:35 AM
How do you send 2o million home???


Who will drive the buses...??

Amnesty is the on viable plan to get them "on the books"


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Mon 09/07/09 07:56 AM

How do you send 2o million home???


Who will drive the buses...??

Amnesty is the on viable plan to get them "on the books"




Take away the jobs Americans can occupy and let them get home the same way they got here.
Take away the jobs and they can turn themselves in to ICE and get a free ride home.
Offer a Stimulus to Americans to turn in Employers who have Illegals working for them.

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Mon 09/07/09 09:11 AM


How do you send 2o million home???


Who will drive the buses...??

Amnesty is the on viable plan to get them "on the books"




Take away the jobs Americans can occupy and let them get home the same way they got here. Americans don't want these types of jobs!

Take away the jobs and they can turn themselves in to ICE and get a free ride home.
Paid for by taxes????

Offer a Stimulus to Americans to turn in Employers who have Illegals working for them. Paid for by taxes????

Winx's photo
Mon 09/07/09 09:22 AM

How do you send 2o million home???

Who will drive the buses...??

Amnesty is the on viable plan to get them "on the books"


My father thinks like that. He says that there is no way we can send them all home. It makes sense.

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Mon 09/07/09 09:25 AM
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Sat it isn't so.....winx and I agree..?????????

Woot Woot!!!!!




How do you send 2o million home???

Who will drive the buses...??

Amnesty is the on viable plan to get them "on the books"


My father thinks like that. He says that there is no way we can send them all home. It makes sense.

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Mon 09/07/09 09:26 AM
laugh flowerforyou

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Mon 09/07/09 10:17 AM
IMO the people an companies that are employin illegals should be fined heavily. We have a catfish plant not far from here, the majority of the work is done by illegals. They continue to hire illegals cause it's cheaper an there's no consequences when Immigration raids them an takes the illegals away. They simply hire more. shades

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Mon 09/07/09 10:29 AM

IMO the people an companies that are employin illegals should be fined heavily. We have a catfish plant not far from here, the majority of the work is done by illegals. They continue to hire illegals cause it's cheaper an there's no consequences when Immigration raids them an takes the illegals away. They simply hire more. shades

Amnesty didn't work before and won't stop the flow of more Illegals.
The Busnesses that employ Illegals don't want Legal workers. Give amnesty and they will just replace them with more Illegals.

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Mon 09/07/09 10:32 AM
My greatgrandparents came here from Germany and worked to make a living!! Isnt America about giving people a chance? I fought for that right, the ONLY true Americans are my people, the Natives, and U took that away!! It is NOT your country to dictate who can and cant be here~!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mon 09/07/09 10:35 AM
I personally have no problem with anyone comin into this country legally. I'm only a 2nd generation american. But do it legally. My grandma got her green card an faithfully renewed it every time it expired. That's the way to come into this country. Come in legally. smokin

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Mon 09/07/09 10:40 AM

My greatgrandparents came here from Germany and worked to make a living!! Isnt America about giving people a chance? I fought for that right, the ONLY true Americans are my people, the Natives, and U took that away!! It is NOT your country to dictate who can and cant be here~!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What other Laws do you feel are ok for Corporations and the Gov. to break?

Corporations have many supporters.

Our Laws and limits to how many Immigrants are legally allowed are in place for a reason.

Seems like Gov. and Corporations can break whichever Laws they wish.

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Tue 09/08/09 01:23 PM
so...your beef is with the enforcement of laws...not illegals?????



My greatgrandparents came here from Germany and worked to make a living!! Isnt America about giving people a chance? I fought for that right, the ONLY true Americans are my people, the Natives, and U took that away!! It is NOT your country to dictate who can and cant be here~!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What other Laws do you feel are ok for Corporations and the Gov. to break?

Corporations have many supporters.

Our Laws and limits to how many Immigrants are legally allowed are in place for a reason.

Seems like Gov. and Corporations can break whichever Laws they wish.

willing2's photo
Tue 09/08/09 01:30 PM

so...your beef is with the enforcement of laws...not illegals?????



My greatgrandparents came here from Germany and worked to make a living!! Isnt America about giving people a chance? I fought for that right, the ONLY true Americans are my people, the Natives, and U took that away!! It is NOT your country to dictate who can and cant be here~!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What other Laws do you feel are ok for Corporations and the Gov. to break?

Corporations have many supporters.

Our Laws and limits to how many Immigrants are legally allowed are in place for a reason.

Seems like Gov. and Corporations can break whichever Laws they wish.


I am Pro-Legal Immigration with caps.

My main beef is, opening up those jobs Illegals have to Americans and Legal Immigrants.

Lack of workplace investigations, no raids, few deportations, and no heavy fines makes it profitable for Law breaking Employers.

I would even advocate, for repeat offenders, their business siezed and auctioned off.