Topic: Bush's Third Term: You're Living It
warmachine's photo
Wed 09/02/09 08:13 AM
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=192

A bit long, but here's an excerpt.

"What's striking are the continuities in American foreign and military policy, no matter who is in the White House. The first-term Obama foreign policy now looks increasingly like the second-term Bush foreign policy. Even where change can be spotted, it regularly seems to follow in the same vein. The New York Times, for instance, recently reported that the controversial "missile defense shield" the Bush administration was insistent on basing in Poland and the Czech Republic is being reconsidered in a many-months-long Obama administration "review." While this should be welcomed, the only option mentioned involved putting it elsewhere -- in Turkey and somewhere in the Balkans. At stake is one of the great military-industrial boondoggles of our age. Yet cancellation is, it seems, beyond consideration in Washington."

Go give it a read, good stuff!

heavenlyboy34's photo
Wed 09/02/09 08:16 AM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Wed 09/02/09 08:17 AM
I agree. However, the similarities between administrations are by design. The Federalists dreamed of this, and got it with their Constitutional coup of 1787. (their ideal was the British Empire, as you'll recall)

no photo
Wed 09/02/09 08:18 AM
Obama ran on right wing promises..

Lower taxes
smaller Gov't


Should not be a surprise

tohyup's photo
Wed 09/02/09 08:19 AM
I think that the neo cons still have lots of heavy weights in the American politics . As long as they are in the driver seat America will never ever change a bit .

warmachine's photo
Wed 09/02/09 08:23 AM

I think that the neo cons still have lots of heavy weights in the American politics . As long as they are in the driver seat America will never ever change a bit .


Read Rahm Emmanuel.

Atlantis75's photo
Wed 09/02/09 08:43 AM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 09/02/09 08:44 AM

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=192

A bit long, but here's an excerpt.

"What's striking are the continuities in American foreign and military policy, no matter who is in the White House. The first-term Obama foreign policy now looks increasingly like the second-term Bush foreign policy.


Just listen to this, it's well worth it!


Ron Paul: "What if?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fHfdSi-GDo

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/03/09 07:14 AM
Thats perfect.

In fact, I think I'll post the transcript.


Speech before the US House of Representatives, 02/12/09

Madame Speaker,

I have a few questions for my colleagues.

What if we wake up one day and realize that the terrorist threat is a predictable consequence of our meddling in the affairs of others?

What if propping up repressive regimes in the Middle East endangers both the United States and Israel?

What if occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan - and bombing Pakistan - is directly related to the hatred directed toward us and has nothing to do with being free and prosperous?

What if someday it dawns on us that losing over 5,000 American military personnel in the Middle East since 9/11 is not a fair trade-off for the loss of nearly 3,000 American citizens, no matter how many Iraqi, Pakistani, and Afghan people are killed or displaced?

What if we finally decide that torture, even if called enhanced interrogation techniques, is self-destructive and produces no useful information - and that contracting it out to a third world nation is just as evil?

What if it is finally realized that war and military spending is always destructive to the economy?

What if all wartime spending is paid for through the deceitful and evil process of inflating and borrowing?

What if we finally see that wartime conditions always undermine personal liberty?

What if conservatives, who preach small government, wake up and realize that our interventionist foreign policy provides the greatest incentive to expand the government?

What if conservatives understood once again that their only logical position is to reject military intervention and managing an empire throughout the world?

What if the American people woke up and understood that the official reasons for going to war are almost always based on lies and promoted by war propaganda in order to serve special interests?

What if we as a nation came to realize that the quest for empire eventually destroys all great nations?

What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?

What if a military draft is being planned for the wars that will spread if our foreign policy is not changed?

What if the American people learn the truth: that our foreign policy has nothing to do with national security and that it never changes from one administration to the next?

What if war and preparation for war is a racket serving the special interests?

What if President Obama is completely wrong about Afghanistan and it turns out worse than Iraq and Vietnam put together?

What if Christianity actually teaches peace and not preventive wars of aggression?

What if diplomacy is found to be superior to bombs and bribes in protecting America?

What happens if my concerns are completely unfounded - nothing!

What happens if my concerns are justified and ignored - nothing good!