Topic: Russian Professor:
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Tue 09/01/09 07:55 PM
Russian Professor: Collapse Of America Could Begin In Two Months

Doomsday author says Obama is doing nothing to forestall disintegration



Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Russian Professor Igor Panarin says that events are continuing to confirm his doomsday prediction first made over 10 years ago, that the United States will completely collapse like the Soviet Union before the end of 2010, and warns that the chaos could begin to unfold in as little as two months.

Panarin, doctor of political sciences and professor of the Russian Diplomatic Academy Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told journalists during the unveiling of his new book yesterday that President Obama has done nothing to forestall the fast approaching crisis and that it could begin to properly unfold in November.

“Obama is “the president of hope”, but in a year there won’t be any hope,” said Panarin. “He’s practically another Gorbachev – he likes to talk but hasn’t really managed to do anything. Gorbachev at least had been a secretary of a regional communist party administration, whereas Obama was just a social worker. His mentality is totally different. He’s a nice person and talks nicely – but he’s not a leader and will take America to a crash. When Americans understand that – it will be like a bomb explosion.”

Since 1998, Panarin has been warning of a future disintegration of the United States and the collapse of the dollar. The recent election victory for Japan’s Democratic Party is another sign that the economic collapse of the U.S. is imminent, according to Panarin.

“Today I received another confirmation that the collapse of the dollar and the US is inevitable. Japan’s Democratic Party won the election, and I’d like to remind you that its leader [Yukio Hatoyama] has the snubbing of the dollar among his economic plans. In plainer words, he plans to transfer Japan’s monetary reserves from US dollars into another currency. The move will seriously accelerate the dollar’s exchange slump as early as this November. Disintegration will follow shortly,” he said, adding that next year China would also begin to massively dump the dollar and that Russia would begin to sell oil and gas for roubles.

Panarin previously stated that the dollar would eventually be replaced with “a common Amero currency as a new monetary unit”, referring to the Security and Prosperity Partnership agreement between the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

He foresees the U.S. breaking up into six different parts, roughly along lines similar to those of 1865 during the Civil War, “The Pacific coast, with its growing Chinese population; the South, with its Hispanics; Texas, where independence movements are on the rise; the Atlantic coast, with its distinct and separate mentality; five of the poorer central states with their large Native American populations; and the northern states, where the influence from Canada is strong,” according to Panarin.

Longer term, Panarin predicts that the breakaway states will eventually be taken over by the European Union, Canada, China, Mexico, Japan and Russia and America will cease to exist altogether, as depicted in the illustration above.

Panarin blames the collapse on a “political elite that implements an absurd and aggressive policy that aims to create conflicts around the planet” and warns that increasing firearms sales in the U.S. are a sign that people are preparing for “chaos” in the aftermath of a total financial meltdown.

“In my opinion, the probability of the US ceasing to exist by June, 2010 exceeds 50%. At this point, the mission of all major international powers is to prevent chaos in the US,” Panarin concluded.

Watch a clip from Russia Today below.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/russian-professor-collapse-of-america-could-begin-in-two-months.html

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Tue 09/01/09 10:08 PM
As far as I am concerned Alex Jones and the nuts at prison planet are dangerously over the top. If anyone starts a damn war it will be Alex Jones and his followers.

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Wed 09/02/09 06:38 AM
2 things, first, what exactly is so nuts about writing articles about what's going on in the world, what prominent people in other countries are saying about this one?

Secondly, Alex Jones and those people who listen to him are nuts and over the top? Seeing how you'd be describing me with that blanket statement, would you care to qualify it? Are you calling me a nut?

To say Alex and the people who listen to him are the ones that would start a war is absolutely a piece of crap statement, Jones advocates nonviolence, he gets mad as hell, but I personally can tell you that he repeatedly makes it clear that violence is only going to begat violence and that he (and I agree) thinks those scumbags that are at work inside our government working hard to bring it down would love, indeed, plan on there being a violent reaction to the death of the dollar, the destruction of the middle class, tyrannical legislation being ramrodded through congress to the detriment of the average american citizen and the planned implementation of marital law.

If anyone starts a damn war it'll be those people with armies to command.

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Wed 09/02/09 06:40 AM

2 things, first, what exactly is so nuts about writing articles about what's going on in the world, what prominent people in other countries are saying about this one?

Secondly, Alex Jones and those people who listen to him are nuts and over the top? Seeing how you'd be describing me with that blanket statement, would you care to qualify it? Are you calling me a nut?

To say Alex and the people who listen to him are the ones that would start a war is absolutely a piece of crap statement, Jones advocates nonviolence, he gets mad as hell, but I personally can tell you that he repeatedly makes it clear that violence is only going to begat violence and that he (and I agree) thinks those scumbags that are at work inside our government working hard to bring it down would love, indeed, plan on there being a violent reaction to the death of the dollar, the destruction of the middle class, tyrannical legislation being ramrodded through congress to the detriment of the average american citizen and the planned implementation of marital law.

If anyone starts a damn war it'll be those people with armies to command.


Now, would anyone like to discuss what this Professor has had to say, the one thing that caught my attention the most was this:

Since 1998, Panarin has been warning of a future disintegration of the United States and the collapse of the dollar. The recent election victory for Japan’s Democratic Party is another sign that the economic collapse of the U.S. is imminent, according to Panarin.

“Today I received another confirmation that the collapse of the dollar and the US is inevitable. Japan’s Democratic Party won the election, and I’d like to remind you that its leader [Yukio Hatoyama] has the snubbing of the dollar among his economic plans. In plainer words, he plans to transfer Japan’s monetary reserves from US dollars into another currency. The move will seriously accelerate the dollar’s exchange slump as early as this November. Disintegration will follow shortly,” he said, adding that next year China would also begin to massively dump the dollar and that Russia would begin to sell oil and gas for roubles."

They already unveiled that IMF supercurrency, is it possible that becomes the world reserve currency, which would lead to a complete collapse of the federal reserve note?


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Wed 09/02/09 06:47 AM


2 things, first, what exactly is so nuts about writing articles about what's going on in the world, what prominent people in other countries are saying about this one?

Secondly, Alex Jones and those people who listen to him are nuts and over the top? Seeing how you'd be describing me with that blanket statement, would you care to qualify it? Are you calling me a nut?

To say Alex and the people who listen to him are the ones that would start a war is absolutely a piece of crap statement, Jones advocates nonviolence, he gets mad as hell, but I personally can tell you that he repeatedly makes it clear that violence is only going to begat violence and that he (and I agree) thinks those scumbags that are at work inside our government working hard to bring it down would love, indeed, plan on there being a violent reaction to the death of the dollar, the destruction of the middle class, tyrannical legislation being ramrodded through congress to the detriment of the average american citizen and the planned implementation of marital law.

If anyone starts a damn war it'll be those people with armies to command.


Now, would anyone like to discuss what this Professor has had to say, the one thing that caught my attention the most was this:

Since 1998, Panarin has been warning of a future disintegration of the United States and the collapse of the dollar. The recent election victory for Japan’s Democratic Party is another sign that the economic collapse of the U.S. is imminent, according to Panarin.

“Today I received another confirmation that the collapse of the dollar and the US is inevitable. Japan’s Democratic Party won the election, and I’d like to remind you that its leader [Yukio Hatoyama] has the snubbing of the dollar among his economic plans. In plainer words, he plans to transfer Japan’s monetary reserves from US dollars into another currency. The move will seriously accelerate the dollar’s exchange slump as early as this November. Disintegration will follow shortly,” he said, adding that next year China would also begin to massively dump the dollar and that Russia would begin to sell oil and gas for roubles."

They already unveiled that IMF supercurrency, is it possible that becomes the world reserve currency, which would lead to a complete collapse of the federal reserve note?



That makes me very grateful to my experiances in life that have kept me close to the ground, at or below poverty level.
I feel for those who have had it easy. They will be the first to freak and lose it.

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Wed 09/02/09 07:54 AM

2 things, first, what exactly is so nuts about writing articles about what's going on in the world, what prominent people in other countries are saying about this one?

Secondly, Alex Jones and those people who listen to him are nuts and over the top? Seeing how you'd be describing me with that blanket statement, would you care to qualify it? Are you calling me a nut?

To say Alex and the people who listen to him are the ones that would start a war is absolutely a piece of crap statement, Jones advocates nonviolence, he gets mad as hell, but I personally can tell you that he repeatedly makes it clear that violence is only going to begat violence and that he (and I agree) thinks those scumbags that are at work inside our government working hard to bring it down would love, indeed, plan on there being a violent reaction to the death of the dollar, the destruction of the middle class, tyrannical legislation being ramrodded through congress to the detriment of the average american citizen and the planned implementation of marital law.

If anyone starts a damn war it'll be those people with armies to command.


If people want to witness this man's manipulation and his fanatical attitudes, Christian and otherwise, they can just about anywhere online. Do I think you are nuts? Even intelligent people can be seriously sway by Alex's views if his views parallel their own.

Actually I really don't think Alex Jones is nuts in the clinical sense but then I am no shrink, I think he is manipulative and dangerous and to me that's nuts.

What is good about all these groups coming out in the open is that it makes the nuts in Washington wag their tongues and spew the same kind of craziness themselves, easier to pick them out and vote them out.

Even if there is some truth buried in his materials, it's so manipulated by his core beliefs, I can't take any of it seriously. And he can't calm down long enough to get the attention of people that are not fanatics.

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Wed 09/02/09 08:09 AM


2 things, first, what exactly is so nuts about writing articles about what's going on in the world, what prominent people in other countries are saying about this one?

Secondly, Alex Jones and those people who listen to him are nuts and over the top? Seeing how you'd be describing me with that blanket statement, would you care to qualify it? Are you calling me a nut?

To say Alex and the people who listen to him are the ones that would start a war is absolutely a piece of crap statement, Jones advocates nonviolence, he gets mad as hell, but I personally can tell you that he repeatedly makes it clear that violence is only going to begat violence and that he (and I agree) thinks those scumbags that are at work inside our government working hard to bring it down would love, indeed, plan on there being a violent reaction to the death of the dollar, the destruction of the middle class, tyrannical legislation being ramrodded through congress to the detriment of the average american citizen and the planned implementation of marital law.

If anyone starts a damn war it'll be those people with armies to command.


If people want to witness this man's manipulation and his fanatical attitudes, Christian and otherwise, they can just about anywhere online. Do I think you are nuts? Even intelligent people can be seriously sway by Alex's views if his views parallel their own.

Actually I really don't think Alex Jones is nuts in the clinical sense but then I am no shrink, I think he is manipulative and dangerous and to me that's nuts.

What is good about all these groups coming out in the open is that it makes the nuts in Washington wag their tongues and spew the same kind of craziness themselves, easier to pick them out and vote them out.

Even if there is some truth buried in his materials, it's so manipulated by his core beliefs, I can't take any of it seriously. And he can't calm down long enough to get the attention of people that are not fanatics.


Really? So Ron Paul is a nut too, How about Pat Buchanan? Jesse Ventura? Willie Nelson? How about Judge Andrew Napalitano, who has done his freedom watch internet show, simulcast with Alex Jones?You have an awful lot to say about Jones, I say prove it. As far as intelligent people being swayed, I would ask to what am I being swayed by?

Jones says do your own research, which I have. Anyone who bothers to go read what people like Brzezinski, Rockefeller and Kissinger have said in their writings know exactly what Mr. Jones and people like myself are talking about.


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Wed 09/02/09 09:22 AM
He is a tool, used by the kremlin to excite the anti american crowd in europe and elsewhere. He is an ultra nationalist that heaps praise on one of the biggest mass murderers in history, Uncle Joe Stalin..

His theory of civil war leading to the break up of the US into 6 regions, controlled by other countries, is rather comical.

June 2010... Ill be waiting..

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Wed 09/02/09 09:33 AM



2 things, first, what exactly is so nuts about writing articles about what's going on in the world, what prominent people in other countries are saying about this one?

Secondly, Alex Jones and those people who listen to him are nuts and over the top? Seeing how you'd be describing me with that blanket statement, would you care to qualify it? Are you calling me a nut?

To say Alex and the people who listen to him are the ones that would start a war is absolutely a piece of crap statement, Jones advocates nonviolence, he gets mad as hell, but I personally can tell you that he repeatedly makes it clear that violence is only going to begat violence and that he (and I agree) thinks those scumbags that are at work inside our government working hard to bring it down would love, indeed, plan on there being a violent reaction to the death of the dollar, the destruction of the middle class, tyrannical legislation being ramrodded through congress to the detriment of the average american citizen and the planned implementation of marital law.

If anyone starts a damn war it'll be those people with armies to command.


If people want to witness this man's manipulation and his fanatical attitudes, Christian and otherwise, they can just about anywhere online. Do I think you are nuts? Even intelligent people can be seriously sway by Alex's views if his views parallel their own.

Actually I really don't think Alex Jones is nuts in the clinical sense but then I am no shrink, I think he is manipulative and dangerous and to me that's nuts.

What is good about all these groups coming out in the open is that it makes the nuts in Washington wag their tongues and spew the same kind of craziness themselves, easier to pick them out and vote them out.

Even if there is some truth buried in his materials, it's so manipulated by his core beliefs, I can't take any of it seriously. And he can't calm down long enough to get the attention of people that are not fanatics.


Really? So Ron Paul is a nut too, How about Pat Buchanan? Jesse Ventura? Willie Nelson? How about Judge Andrew Napalitano, who has done his freedom watch internet show, simulcast with Alex Jones?You have an awful lot to say about Jones, I say prove it. As far as intelligent people being swayed, I would ask to what am I being swayed by?

Jones says do your own research, which I have. Anyone who bothers to go read what people like Brzezinski, Rockefeller and Kissinger have said in their writings know exactly what Mr. Jones and people like myself are talking about.



It seems to me that Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan and the rest need to prove it, hopefully with out sounding like wingnuts, they are the ones into it so big time.

I really wish I had skipped this thread because now there will be more threads just like it one after another. Becareful what you respond to.. ack!

I actually don't have much to say about the guy other than he's a manipulative dangerous man. I do my own research and from what I hear from him and others I prefer to stay clear of them.

Last I checked I have the same right to free speech you do.

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Thu 09/03/09 07:20 AM
I think that Dr.Paul and Mr. Buchanan have done a pretty fine job at pointing out the evidences for the scumbags having their hands around the throat of the Republic.

Read Pauls book: The Revolution: A manifesto and Pat Buchanans Day of Reckoning and they lay things out in plain and easy to understand english.

I did not ever tell you that you had no right to say what's on your mind, but all I've ever done when someone bashes Mr.Jones is tell them to prove what they're claiming about him, which no one ever does.

It's easy to brow beat someone, just because you don't like them or their views, it's quite another to actually produce a concrete reason for the malice.

You can have all the rights to your free speech you so desire, as assured to us by the Constitution to say whatever you like, however, I also have free speech that I can use to tell you or anyone else when I think they're full of crap.

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Thu 09/03/09 08:05 AM

I think that Dr.Paul and Mr. Buchanan have done a pretty fine job at pointing out the evidences for the scumbags having their hands around the throat of the Republic.

Read Pauls book: The Revolution: A manifesto and Pat Buchanans Day of Reckoning and they lay things out in plain and easy to understand english.

I did not ever tell you that you had no right to say what's on your mind, but all I've ever done when someone bashes Mr.Jones is tell them to prove what they're claiming about him, which no one ever does.

It's easy to brow beat someone, just because you don't like them or their views, it's quite another to actually produce a concrete reason for the malice.

You can have all the rights to your free speech you so desire, as assured to us by the Constitution to say whatever you like, however, I also have free speech that I can use to tell you or anyone else when I think they're full of crap.


Excellent than I would add that Jones is also full of crap. Personally I don't have to prove anything, people can read for themselves. Don't mess with me before my coffee. I don't care for radicals on either side, and frankly he's a radical.

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Thu 09/03/09 11:48 AM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Thu 09/03/09 11:48 AM

I've been hearing this guy and his 'downfall of America' theory for a while. And I'm not sure what to make of it. After all, he is credited with predicting the same for the USSR. So, if that's true it tends to lend credibility to his claim.

On the other hand, the Ruskies are famous (notorious?) for their use of propaganda. I wouldn't put it past them to float this out there.

Yet another way to view it is through the prism of the self-fulfilling prophecy.. Things are crazy here right now. People are highly polarized. perhaps more so now than in any time in recent history/memory. The Russians are still peavish over losing East Germany and the rest of the Iron Curtain. What better than to attempt to push the US over the edge? If it works, all the better. If it fails, so what? they're no worse off than before. So if they can foment an American insurrection, they can achieve their goal much easier than sending Red Army troops onto US soil.

Anyone who thinks the Russians and the KGB went away and took their ideologies with them is a blind fool. Panarin and his theory are a product of that ideology and has the goal of returning the favor.


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Tue 09/08/09 02:08 PM


I've been hearing this guy and his 'downfall of America' theory for a while. And I'm not sure what to make of it. After all, he is credited with predicting the same for the USSR. So, if that's true it tends to lend credibility to his claim.

On the other hand, the Ruskies are famous (notorious?) for their use of propaganda. I wouldn't put it past them to float this out there.

Yet another way to view it is through the prism of the self-fulfilling prophecy.. Things are crazy here right now. People are highly polarized. perhaps more so now than in any time in recent history/memory. The Russians are still peavish over losing East Germany and the rest of the Iron Curtain. What better than to attempt to push the US over the edge? If it works, all the better. If it fails, so what? they're no worse off than before. So if they can foment an American insurrection, they can achieve their goal much easier than sending Red Army troops onto US soil.

Anyone who thinks the Russians and the KGB went away and took their ideologies with them is a blind fool. Panarin and his theory are a product of that ideology and has the goal of returning the favor.




Good points.

I'm not sure what to make of his model of who will own what, but He did line up what would cause our economic issues.

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Tue 09/08/09 02:14 PM


I think that Dr.Paul and Mr. Buchanan have done a pretty fine job at pointing out the evidences for the scumbags having their hands around the throat of the Republic.

Read Pauls book: The Revolution: A manifesto and Pat Buchanans Day of Reckoning and they lay things out in plain and easy to understand english.

I did not ever tell you that you had no right to say what's on your mind, but all I've ever done when someone bashes Mr.Jones is tell them to prove what they're claiming about him, which no one ever does.

It's easy to brow beat someone, just because you don't like them or their views, it's quite another to actually produce a concrete reason for the malice.

You can have all the rights to your free speech you so desire, as assured to us by the Constitution to say whatever you like, however, I also have free speech that I can use to tell you or anyone else when I think they're full of crap.


Excellent than I would add that Jones is also full of crap. Personally I don't have to prove anything, people can read for themselves. Don't mess with me before my coffee. I don't care for radicals on either side, and frankly he's a radical.


Addicted to the coffee, can't say I don't have me a serious caffeine monkey of my own.

Whats radical about exposing the false left/right pardigm, exposing government corruption and pointing out whats being done in our name, but without our permission... or worse, regardless of the American people resoundly saying no.
Whats radical about covering the MAIC, DHS reports that state Gun owners, Veterans and Ron Paul supporters are probably terrorists?

I would say the Radicals are folks like Van Jones, Holdren, Cheney, Rumsefeld, those guys are radicals, who have had or do have the seats of power.