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Topic: a crazy mom
johncarl's photo
Thu 08/27/09 08:32 AM

I know exactly where ur comin from with the Bipolar behavior. I dated someone who is Bipolar. I ended it because he wasn't takin proper care of himself, the erractic behavior, an because my own son is possibly Bipolar an he comes first. We've been over for 9 months now an he'll still occassionally call me wantin to talk. A week ago he called me at 3am. I told him in no uncertain terms never to call me after 9pm ever again. You've got to set down rules with her an stick with them. Tell her this is how it's goin to be. You need to do this not only for yourself but most importantly for your child.
you are right i have set down the rules and for some reason she just did this out of the blue.she is the one that taught me about bounders. and i thank here for that.she has crossed the line big time in my book.i will see how this one plays out.

daniel48706's photo
Thu 08/27/09 08:32 AM


I agree with redbean, however, as John may remeber from when I was here before, his ex and mine seem to be molded fromt he same container (and both live in Michigan lol).

I would not agree to telling her parents that you think she is off her meds, as there is no reason to belive so from what you have posted so far.

My ex takes her medicaton every day (she is severe bi-polar and minor schizophrenic), and yet it does not change her attitude nor her general behavior towards me or our children. From what I have seen first hand over the past 7 years or so, is the medicine willn ot stop a person from showing their true colors, so to speak. it will simply stop them from going from depression to mania at the drop of a hat, and vice versa, which is wht the bipolar issue is really about. A bipolar person has no natural middle ground in their emotions, so go from being real desperately sad, to really crazily happy go-lucky , or ogoing from one to ten without hitting all the other numbers in the middle. This causes a LOT of confrontational effects and dangerous habits for the person afflicted by it, thus the medication (when it works) helps to balance their actions out. however, if they are a stingy, cruel and mean person to begin with, they will continue to be so no matter how much medication they take.
thank youflowerforyou you explained it very good.lots of pepole just dont understand the disorder .my life is lots better now my x only gets the child 94 days a year.she is doing very good in school and pulling As and Bs and now just started to play with dolls at 8. she was so up set over the court fighting that she now is a child again.i am trying to keep the peace in michigan with the x.



Sounds to me like you are doing everything to the best of your ability. I ended up leaving Michigan and moving to New York (not just because of my ex) and now New York is taking control of all the issues I have with my ex, thankfully. She is in for some very major and dissapointing surprises.

ReddBeans's photo
Thu 08/27/09 08:33 AM
I'd like to suggest something. Have you considered havin your child go to a therapist? Have you talked to her honestly an openly about her mother's condition? She's comin to an age where she may perhaps blame herself for her mother's behavior. I know it may sound far fetched but you wouldn't believe the guilt a child will put on themselves when there are issues between the parents. My son blamed himself everytime my ex boyfriend would fly off the handle. You might want to look into findin your child a counselor.:thumbsup:

johncarl's photo
Thu 08/27/09 08:38 AM

I'd like to suggest something. Have you considered havin your child go to a therapist? Have you talked to her honestly an openly about her mother's condition? She's comin to an age where she may perhaps blame herself for her mother's behavior. I know it may sound far fetched but you wouldn't believe the guilt a child will put on themselves when there are issues between the parents. My son blamed himself everytime my ex boyfriend would fly off the handle. You might want to look into findin your child a counselor.:thumbsup:
been to them for like 4 years as far as telling the child her mom is sick i dont even have to go their she already knows. and she knows that none of this is her fult i tell here all the time. and i tell here that here mom and me love here just as much.and i never talk bad about the mom in front of the child. for it is here mom.

johncarl's photo
Thu 08/27/09 08:40 AM



I agree with redbean, however, as John may remeber from when I was here before, his ex and mine seem to be molded fromt he same container (and both live in Michigan lol).

I would not agree to telling her parents that you think she is off her meds, as there is no reason to belive so from what you have posted so far.

My ex takes her medicaton every day (she is severe bi-polar and minor schizophrenic), and yet it does not change her attitude nor her general behavior towards me or our children. From what I have seen first hand over the past 7 years or so, is the medicine willn ot stop a person from showing their true colors, so to speak. it will simply stop them from going from depression to mania at the drop of a hat, and vice versa, which is wht the bipolar issue is really about. A bipolar person has no natural middle ground in their emotions, so go from being real desperately sad, to really crazily happy go-lucky , or ogoing from one to ten without hitting all the other numbers in the middle. This causes a LOT of confrontational effects and dangerous habits for the person afflicted by it, thus the medication (when it works) helps to balance their actions out. however, if they are a stingy, cruel and mean person to begin with, they will continue to be so no matter how much medication they take.
thank youflowerforyou you explained it very good.lots of pepole just dont understand the disorder .my life is lots better now my x only gets the child 94 days a year.she is doing very good in school and pulling As and Bs and now just started to play with dolls at 8. she was so up set over the court fighting that she now is a child again.i am trying to keep the peace in michigan with the x.



Sounds to me like you are doing everything to the best of your ability. I ended up leaving Michigan and moving to New York (not just because of my ex) and now New York is taking control of all the issues I have with my ex, thankfully. She is in for some very major and dissapointing surprises.
that is good to here it is about time.:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

ReddBeans's photo
Thu 08/27/09 08:42 AM


I'd like to suggest something. Have you considered havin your child go to a therapist? Have you talked to her honestly an openly about her mother's condition? She's comin to an age where she may perhaps blame herself for her mother's behavior. I know it may sound far fetched but you wouldn't believe the guilt a child will put on themselves when there are issues between the parents. My son blamed himself everytime my ex boyfriend would fly off the handle. You might want to look into findin your child a counselor.:thumbsup:
been to them for like 4 years as far as telling the child her mom is sick i dont even have to go their she already knows. and she knows that none of this is her fult i tell here all the time. and i tell here that here mom and me love here just as much.and i never talk bad about the mom in front of the child. for it is here mom.


You sound like a wonderful Dad. I wish you luck an happiness.flowerforyou

johncarl's photo
Thu 08/27/09 02:09 PM



I'd like to suggest something. Have you considered havin your child go to a therapist? Have you talked to her honestly an openly about her mother's condition? She's comin to an age where she may perhaps blame herself for her mother's behavior. I know it may sound far fetched but you wouldn't believe the guilt a child will put on themselves when there are issues between the parents. My son blamed himself everytime my ex boyfriend would fly off the handle. You might want to look into findin your child a counselor.:thumbsup:
been to them for like 4 years as far as telling the child her mom is sick i dont even have to go their she already knows. and she knows that none of this is her fult i tell here all the time. and i tell here that here mom and me love here just as much.and i never talk bad about the mom in front of the child. for it is here mom.


You sound like a wonderful Dad. I wish you luck an happiness.flowerforyou
thank youflowerforyou

mo_muirnin's photo
Sun 08/30/09 10:45 PM
Here's your rights:

Child support by law can be used for whatever you want. Pay your bills, feed your kids, buy clothes for your kids. The state and nor does your ex have the right to tell you what you can and can't do with that money.


daniel48706's photo
Mon 08/31/09 07:52 AM

Here's your rights:

Child support by law can be used for whatever you want. Pay your bills, feed your kids, buy clothes for your kids. The state and nor does your ex have the right to tell you what you can and can't do with that money.




Not quite true but the essence is correct. You rare absolutely correct in that the ex-spouse has no say or anything. However, the state DOES demand that child support be used for the child (at least most states do; I wont say every state lol). The one right the ex-parent does have if they don't like what you are spending thigns on, or if they don't feel yuo are using it for the child, is to petition the court to look into it, and the court will do so only so many times. As long as you can show that it is being used for the betterment of the child though, which very few custodial parents have a problem doing, there is never a problem, and some laces will even fine the non-custodial parent for wasting the cuorts time, and causing trouble in the relationship with the child.

Again, I am not saying ALL states do this, but the majority of them do.

mo_muirnin's photo
Mon 08/31/09 10:12 AM


Here's your rights:

Child support by law can be used for whatever you want. Pay your bills, feed your kids, buy clothes for your kids. The state and nor does your ex have the right to tell you what you can and can't do with that money.




Not quite true but the essence is correct. You rare absolutely correct in that the ex-spouse has no say or anything. However, the state DOES demand that child support be used for the child (at least most states do; I wont say every state lol). The one right the ex-parent does have if they don't like what you are spending thigns on, or if they don't feel yuo are using it for the child, is to petition the court to look into it, and the court will do so only so many times. As long as you can show that it is being used for the betterment of the child though, which very few custodial parents have a problem doing, there is never a problem, and some laces will even fine the non-custodial parent for wasting the cuorts time, and causing trouble in the relationship with the child.

Again, I am not saying ALL states do this, but the majority of them do.


Louisiana doesn't do that, Utah doesn't do that, Arkansas doesn't do that, Tennessee doesn't do that. I'm pretty sure most don't do that. Actually, when the other parents petition the courts - that's up the courts of what they want to do. Not Child support. All child support does is enforce the other parents to help pay, they don't go beyond that...

Unless that money is being spent on drugs or to feed an addiction then they don't want to hear about it.

I've been going after child support for 5 years and went through 2 custody battles in 2 years. I've checked the laws, because when I actually did child support from that piece of crap he tried to tell me what I was going to do with the money. Both a lawyer and Child support offices said he has no say.

The only time child support is demanded for the children is if it is court ordered, again, everything has to be ordered in order for that to have heirsay. There is no court order, there is nothing.

lilith401's photo
Mon 08/31/09 10:29 AM
Let it go, it doesn't sound like a big deal.

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