Drake, former SBC officer, says he's praying for Obama to die
By Bob Allen
Wednesday, June 03, 2009

A former SBC vice president told Fox News Radio's Alan Colmes he is praying 'imprecatory prayer' on President Obama.
NEW YORK (ABP) --

A former Southern Baptist Convention officer who on June 2 called the death of abortion provider George Tiller an answer to prayer said later in the day he is also praying "imprecatory prayer" against President Obama.

Wiley Drake, pastor of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park, Calif., and former running mate of American Independent Party presidential candidate Alan Keyes, said June 2 on Fox News Radio he didn't understand why people were upset with his comments quoted by Associated Baptist Press from a webcast of his daily radio talk show.

"Imprecatory prayer is agreeing with God, and if people don't like that, they need to talk to God," Drake told syndicated talk-show host Alan Colmes. "God said it, I didn't. I was just agreeing with God."

Asked if there are others for whom Drake is praying "imprecatory prayer," Drake hesitated before answering that there are several. "The usurper that is in the White House is one, B. Hussein Obama," he said.

Later in the interview, Colmes returned to Drake's answer to make sure he heard him right.

"Are you praying for his death?" Colmes asked.

"Yes," Drake replied.

"So you're praying for the death of the president of the United States?"

"Yes."

Colmes asked Drake if he was concerned that by saying that he might be placed on a Secret Service or FBI watch list, and if he believed it appropriate to talk or pray that way.

"I think it's appropriate to pray the Word of God," Drake said. "I'm not saying anything. What I am doing is repeating what God is saying, and if that puts me on somebody's list, then I'll just have to be on their list."

"You would like for the president of the United States to die?" Colmes asked once more.

"If he does not turn to God and does not turn his life around, I am asking God to enforce imprecatory prayers that are throughout the Scripture that would cause him death, that's correct."

Most of the half-hour interview on "The Alan Colmes Show" is premium programming available by paid subscription, but a five-minute clip appeared as a "top video" on the Fox News Radio website.

Drake said he didn't pray for Tiller to be murdered -- only that God would take his life by some method -- but that he "absolutely" believed that God wanted the doctor dead.

"I believe the whole Bible, Alan," he explained. "I don't just preach part of it. I don't just preach the soft, fuzzy, warm stuff where we're supposed to be nice to everybody. I preach the whole Bible."

Part of the Bible, Drake claimed, is imprecatory prayer -- words of judgment in the Psalms prayed back to God -- a practice he said the church has lost.

Drake fielded calls from a few listeners, including one identifying himself as a lifelong Southern Baptist who said he was saddened to hear a minister would pray for someone to die.

"This whole concept that we're always to pray little, nice, soft, fluffy, prayers -- that we're not to pray imprecatory prayer -- has been something that just, in all honesty, that Southern Baptists have lost, and we need to regain imprecatory prayer," Drake said. "It is in the Bible, and we are proud to say as Southern Baptists that we believe the Book. You've got to believe the whole Book, brother, or you don't believe any of it."

Asked if he thinks there might be other people praying imprecatory prayers for him that might be successful, Drake said, "Well, that's certainly possible, but that's in God's hands, not in mine."

Asked if he claimed to know God's will, Drake replied: "In some cases I do. Not in all cases. I know this, that if I do die right now, I'll go to heaven when I die because I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. That's why I'll go to heaven and not to hell. And the reason George Tiller went to hell when he died was not because he killed babies, as terrible as that was. If he went to hell, and I think he did -- that's God's judgment and not mine -- but if he did go to hell it's because he did not accept Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior."

Drake said he did not believe Tiller's accused killer is a pro-life Christian.

"I'm of the opinion -- and now everybody's going to say 'There goes Wiley down the conspiracy-theory road,' I'm of the opinion that somebody in the Obama camp had this guy killed."

"Who benefits the most from this man killing a doctor?" Drake asked. "We certainly don't. Pro-life people certainly don't. It hurts us. It damages us, but Obama will indeed advance it. This will be one of those crises to take advantage of, and he's already done that."

Drake said he had no evidence and admitted his opinion for now is "pure speculation."

"Everybody said [Lee Harvey] Oswald was a lone gunman, et cetera, et cetera, too," he said. "But I think we're going to find there was somebody else involved."

Drake said Tiller's murder would be a setback for pro-life Christians seeking to end abortion by legal and proper means. He said he also expects to see answers to other imprecatory prayers in the days ahead.

"God says very clearly in his Word that we are to continue to pray and he will answer our prayers," Drake said.

Sing Oldham, vice president for convention relations with the SBC Executive Committee, was unavailable for comment until late on May 4.

He said that while Drake served one year as second vice president of the SBC, he is not now nor has ever been a spokesman for the convention.

"Mr. Drake does not represent Southern Baptist actions, resolutions, or positions in his interpretation and application of 'imprecatory prayers,'" Oldham said. "Any comments made by Wiley Drake on this subject represent his personal views, not those of the Convention."

Oldham said most Baptists view the imprecatory prayers found in the Psalms as private, heartfelt conversations between oppressed people and God, and reflect confidence that God will eventually vindicate the innocent. He said they generally close with a conscious decision not to bear malice and leave final judgment up to God.

"I think it is fair to say that the vast majority of Southern Baptists reject any call to pray imprecatory prayers of death over any individual," he said.

Guess we don't have enough wing nuts out there, this aught to bring a few more out.

That article came from here. Forgot to post that.

Hey you shouldnt pray for another mans death thats pretty eccentric, if you are gonna prey ,prey that he makes very logical desisions for our country.

This guy is insane, and his followers (if he still has any left after this little stunt) has to really be out of their mind!

I believe that is supposed to be against the Christian religion to pray for negative things to happen to people, right?

It is a sad thing either way.

oh gawd....very sad indeed.

Brings the term "pray for your enemies" into a whole new light.

The guy is nuts and karma will see to him.
I think it's enough that people who once worshiped him are now waking up and demanding Congress and their Reps pull in the reins

Agreed I didnt vote for him but me personaly pray that this man goes the right way for our country! Me personaly worship god not man!

I don't worship things I can't see, much less anything I do see. But I doubt that those that follow him will all be out trying to fix what he said. some actually think this sort of thing will get all the wing nuts out and fighting against anything Obama might want. Personally I think the Republicans started this train rolling down hill and it's their job to stop it. Though personally I think it's too late.

Nah your just trippin and pretty much lost i pray for you too.

Don't ya just hate it when people get condescending and say they will pray for ya ya when they don't agree with ya? oh my

You believe in things I don't see or hear, and I'm trippin? lmao I hear people say they are praying for me all the time. Funny I still don't see any gods.

Ya it's condesending but they think their getting points for it.... Oh well it's no sweat as long as they don't start chanting in front of me.

Don't be sad, Lastmanstanding, I have more than a few wacky christian friends, luckily they don't preach at me and by now I think they stopped all the praying.

Trust me if god actually answered prayers like that, you'd of all been dead long ago.

When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bike.
Then I realized that the Lord doesn't work that way.
So I stole one and asked him to forgive me.

thats amazing hahahaha

Thats not cool. I dont like Obamas way of doing things but I dont want him to die. Thats just mean. Bad christian no no.

Praying for someone to die is a oxymoron.