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Topic: Unconditional Love
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Fri 08/21/09 10:25 PM
All of humanity has a single lesson to learn and every healing journey is focused on acquiring this final element that makes a global spiritual transformation possible. It is the reason that the Shift is occurring at this time. When it is learned every aspect of your lives will change. The lesson is compassion, for yourselves and for others. Without compassion you cannot experience unconditional love and without love you cannot know compassion. They go together and are the key to bringing heaven on earth. Every lesson that your soul has come to experience at this time is a lesson in compassion.

Each of you plays a part in all lessons, from those in your individual soul group to those that occur on a global level. Since you are all connected what is experienced by one is experienced by and relevant to all. Each of you learns from others lessons, whether they are directly in your life or not. Each event that you hear about or are involved in has a message for you. How you respond is part of your journey. Are you compassionate and loving or do resist or become angry? Do you become involved in or ignore the situation? Does it make you feel powerful or powerless? Does it change something about you or create a new way of being? Can you rise above the experience to find ways to learn and express compassion?

You cannot change another's lessons or make them easier. You cannot alter the course of their path but you can honor their lessons by showing them love and compassion. Global lessons, those that involve many souls, create vortexes of compassion for everyone. When humanity is able to express compassion for itself and to walk in the light of unconditional love these vortexes will no longer be required. Until that time, many souls will volunteer to participate in this learning and healing process.

Honor those who are part of your lessons and those who participate on a global level for their souls have accepted the task of being a light for the world. Love your teachers, appreciate your lessons, be willing to see everyone with compassion and learn how to love unconditionally. This is the lesson that all of humanity has agreed to participate in at this time. Each of you plays a part in humanity's journey of light. Your role is as important as that of everyone else and what you create for yourself you create for all. Together you will move forward into higher
dimensions of being and create heaven on earth.




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Fri 08/21/09 10:31 PM
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tohyup's photo
Sat 08/22/09 03:33 PM
Unfortunetely there is too much greed, selfishness and too many crimes and corruption . The more you get to know people the more you get surprised about the dimension of frauds and deception . Bullying and violence are nearly the norm these days .It takes us all to be real humanists and real pacifists to change the present global mess !.

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Sat 08/22/09 03:36 PM

All of humanity has a single lesson to learn and every healing journey is focused on acquiring this final element that makes a global spiritual transformation possible. It is the reason that the Shift is occurring at this time. When it is learned every aspect of your lives will change. The lesson is compassion, for yourselves and for others. Without compassion you cannot experience unconditional love and without love you cannot know compassion. They go together and are the key to bringing heaven on earth. Every lesson that your soul has come to experience at this time is a lesson in compassion.

Each of you plays a part in all lessons, from those in your individual soul group to those that occur on a global level. Since you are all connected what is experienced by one is experienced by and relevant to all. Each of you learns from others lessons, whether they are directly in your life or not. Each event that you hear about or are involved in has a message for you. How you respond is part of your journey. Are you compassionate and loving or do resist or become angry? Do you become involved in or ignore the situation? Does it make you feel powerful or powerless? Does it change something about you or create a new way of being? Can you rise above the experience to find ways to learn and express compassion?

You cannot change another's lessons or make them easier. You cannot alter the course of their path but you can honor their lessons by showing them love and compassion. Global lessons, those that involve many souls, create vortexes of compassion for everyone. When humanity is able to express compassion for itself and to walk in the light of unconditional love these vortexes will no longer be required. Until that time, many souls will volunteer to participate in this learning and healing process.

Honor those who are part of your lessons and those who participate on a global level for their souls have accepted the task of being a light for the world. Love your teachers, appreciate your lessons, be willing to see everyone with compassion and learn how to love unconditionally. This is the lesson that all of humanity has agreed to participate in at this time. Each of you plays a part in humanity's journey of light. Your role is as important as that of everyone else and what you create for yourself you create for all. Together you will move forward into higher
dimensions of being and create heaven on earth.





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Sat 08/22/09 03:38 PM

Unfortunetely there is too much greed, selfishness and too many crimes and corruption . The more you get to know people the more you get surprised about the dimension of frauds and deception . Bullying and violence are nearly the norm these days .It takes us all to be real humanists and real pacifists to change the present global mess !.


strength in numbers....:heart:

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Sat 08/22/09 03:49 PM
Whoopsie Daisy! *giggles* laugh

I quoted and posted...without even replying! HOW RUDE OF ME! :tongue:

All I was going to say was...GREAT POST, but let's condense it, shall we?

Makes more of a power punch for those who don't want to read, read, read...can't comprehend the validity of vortexes related to human energy...etc...etc...etc...

"Love your teachers, appreciate your lessons, be willing to see everyone with compassion and learn how to love unconditionally."

Sure, some folks online may comprehend the concept of making a global spiritual transformation possible, but do you really believe you are going to make a global transformation in one post...one which is likely plagerized (and NOT credited accordingly)?

Again, please don't slam me for possibly slamming you...as it was a beautiful and poignant post.

Guess it took all I had to say...and all you to say...

We are ALL teachers in our own right! Heed the lesson, if you are willing to be a student. drinker


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Sat 08/22/09 04:03 PM
Edited by Ladylid2012 on Sat 08/22/09 04:14 PM

Whoopsie Daisy! *giggles* laugh

I quoted and posted...without even replying! HOW RUDE OF ME! :tongue:

All I was going to say was...GREAT POST, but let's condense it, shall we?

Makes more of a power punch for those who don't want to read, read, read...can't comprehend the validity of vortexes related to human energy...etc...etc...etc...

"Love your teachers, appreciate your lessons, be willing to see everyone with compassion and learn how to love unconditionally."

Sure, some folks online may comprehend the concept of making a global spiritual transformation possible, but do you really believe you are going to make a global transformation in one post...one which is likely plagerized (and NOT credited accordingly)?

Again, please don't slam me for possibly slamming you...as it was a beautiful and poignant post.

Guess it took all I had to say...and all you to say...

We are ALL teachers in our own right! Heed the lesson, if you are willing to be a student. drinker



I did not start a global transformation, it began long before me. I have been called to use all avenues to share the knowledge.
No, I am absolutely sure that one post will not create a global spiritual transformation. My involvement, my role is more than a post on mingle and a
post such as this is for those who are drawn to it and willing to understand it, or at least attempt an understanding. Just as there are threads I will not go into, there are those who will have no interest in this also. :heart:

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Sat 08/22/09 10:48 PM
Please do not love me unconditionally.

:smile:


Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 08/22/09 11:08 PM

Please do not love me unconditionally.

:smile:




can't help it poison... just the way I am.flowers

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Sat 08/22/09 11:39 PM
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sentiment. However unconditional love means to love me without condition. That means that no matter what I do, you will love me exactly the same as you do right now.

If I lie to you or steal from you or threaten your children or get you fired, you will love me exactly as you do right now. If I donate a kidney to save your child's life or give you $100,000 or inspire you to create a work of art... you will love me exactly as you do right now.

I would prefer that you love me for who I am and what I do. I would rather be loved less when I disappoint someone and show that I am not the person they thought I was. I would rather be loved more for being a good man.

In short, I would rather be loved for who I am and the things that I do.

So, if you love me enough to respect my wishes... do not love me unconditionally.

flowerforyou Thank you flowerforyou

artman48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 11:42 PM
I have better things to do---sorry

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 08/22/09 11:46 PM

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sentiment. However unconditional love means to love me without condition. That means that no matter what I do, you will love me exactly the same as you do right now.

If I lie to you or steal from you or threaten your children or get you fired, you will love me exactly as you do right now. If I donate a kidney to save your child's life or give you $100,000 or inspire you to create a work of art... you will love me exactly as you do right now.

I would prefer that you love me for who I am and what I do. I would rather be loved less when I disappoint someone and show that I am not the person they thought I was. I would rather be loved more for being a good man.

In short, I would rather be loved for who I am and the things that I do.

So, if you love me enough to respect my wishes... do not love me unconditionally.

flowerforyou Thank you flowerforyou


Yes, I understand what unconditional love is...:smile:
You have never done any of the things you point out...you have never given me a reason not to love you as a good man, as a human. I don't even know you.. in my eyes you are as good as everyone else.
Apologies if your offended that I care about people... you can not mandate my feelings. flowers

artman48's photo
Sat 08/22/09 11:48 PM
Gota go---just dumped some vomit---sorry

Ladylid2012's photo
Sat 08/22/09 11:50 PM

Gota go---just dumped some vomit---sorry




bye bye...scoot now and do your important things

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Sat 08/22/09 11:52 PM

you can not mandate my feelings


Would never dream of doing that. I think it best if I back out of this thread.

Peace.

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Sun 08/23/09 01:28 AM
PoisonSting wrote:

In short, I would rather be loved for who I am and the things that I do.

So, if you love me enough to respect my wishes... do not love me unconditionally.

flowerforyou Thank you flowerforyou


Truly.

Mankind can't even conjure up an imaginary God who loves unconditionally. They even imagine their gods casting people that the gods disapprove of into a hell fire.

Why should a human being love another human being that goes around purposefully hurting people or even killing them.

Love deserves to be earned.

Having said that I'm totally in agreement with Ladylid on the notion that it's not going to do anyone any good to go around being violent or angry with people.

Fortunately we have police that can be called in to deal with the truly nasty people. And the rest we can just try to avoid as much as possible.

That's how I handle it. I've basically become a hermit. I just stay away from people as much as possible.

I've learned throughout my life that being compassionate and loving toward poeple does no good at all. If the other person is also compassionate before I met them, then they will still be compassionate after I've met them. And likewise, if a person is nasty before I meet them, no matter how nice and polite and loving or compassionate I am they are still nasty after I've met them.

So being nice to people (or showing them love and compassion) isn't going to change them.

In fact, you've even said as much in your very own post:

Ladylid2012 wrote:

You cannot change another's lessons or make them easier. You cannot alter the course of their path but you can honor their lessons by showing them love and compassion.


Or you can just avoid them. Because showing them love is just huge waste of your time.

Showing them love is NOT going to spread global love.

Unfortunately, it just doesn't work that way.

I wish it did!

If love truly spread outward from a loving person then if you go into a work place where there is just ONE loving person, then love should radiate out from that person and eventually start to change the people who work around him or her.

I can assure that I have worked in several places were there were a few truly loving people surrounded by not-so-loving people. And they worked together literally for years with no one truly changing much at all. Those very loving people had vitrually no affect on the rest of the workers at all. Zip, zilch, nada.

Love is not necessarily contagious unless it's among a bunch of people who already happen to be basially loving people. But then it's only a mirage because they were truly all loving people to begin with and they just all got happier when they began to realize that. laugh

Sorry, I don't mean to sound so negative. But truly, I just don't see love spreading out.

But I most certainly WILL agree with you that violence and angry to spread like wildfire! For some reason hostility does seem to be very highly contageous.

So I will agree that refraining from violence, angry, and hostility will at least not spark it.

But that's still not the same as spreading love. That's just refraining from spreading hostility.

Now that I can support! bigsmile

But, like I say, you can do that by avoidance. No need to love anyone, just avoid them, or be indifferent to them.



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Sun 08/23/09 09:37 AM

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the sentiment. However unconditional love means to love me without condition. That means that no matter what I do, you will love me exactly the same as you do right now.

If I lie to you or steal from you or threaten your children or get you fired, you will love me exactly as you do right now. If I donate a kidney to save your child's life or give you $100,000 or inspire you to create a work of art... you will love me exactly as you do right now.

I would prefer that you love me for who I am and what I do. I would rather be loved less when I disappoint someone and show that I am not the person they thought I was. I would rather be loved more for being a good man.

In short, I would rather be loved for who I am and the things that I do.

So, if you love me enough to respect my wishes... do not love me unconditionally.

flowerforyou Thank you flowerforyou

True unconditional love?

If you did all that stuff to me...

I could still love you as I tossed your azz in the slammer.

Love does not mean I must allow.

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Sun 08/23/09 10:06 AM


Sorry, I don't mean to sound so negative. But truly, I just don't see love spreading out.

But I most certainly WILL agree with you that violence and angry to spread like wildfire! For some reason hostility does seem to be very highly contageous.





Love is a force of nature.. it's much more than an emotion. It's the basis of our creation. We are conditioned to hate and be violent....as a pit bull is trained to fight. Each generation has grown up with war, our media reports the most destructive of news, our parents, or clergy, or neighbors, or friends. All those who "love" us teach their beliefs.. with the best of intentions, to protect us. Judgment of others, self righteousness...the bigger, faster, stronger mentality. When in actuality ALL things are created equal. We can choose to continue that which we are environmentally conditioned to, or say this doesn't resonate with me.. I don't like the way it makes me feel. For one to choose to post in this thread... sorry I had to vomit - is an example of that choice. While I agree with you Abra that avoidance is makes it much easier to love... I am quite sure if hatred and violence is capable of spreading, love is even more powerful.

Always appreciate your deep thoughts.flowers

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Sun 08/23/09 10:31 AM
:heart:

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Sun 08/23/09 10:40 AM
Lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car for an hour. When you open the trunk which one is happy to see you?......smokin

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