Topic: Obama slams "scare tactics"
Dragoness's photo
Sat 08/15/09 08:45 PM

We are converting to a socialist state, pull up a chair and get some popcorn, cause there's nothing you can do about it short of an all out revolt. Personally I don't need to be killing anyone, yet.

It'll be at least 2 generations from now before the uprising, probably longer as the conversion to socialism is taking a little longer than usual, but such things happen if you look at history.

Personally, I can stitch my own wounds and take care of my own colds, if I get cancer then let it take me. Why fight with the will of the gods? Enjoy life for now and try not to let it get to you. Putting up with some of the BS that goes along with socialism is a pain in the rear but far worse to die of a stroke from worrying about it. If you aren't ready to take up arms then don't let it bother you.


We will never see socialism here so that is a mute point.

Geckgo's photo
Sat 08/15/09 08:49 PM


We are converting to a socialist state, pull up a chair and get some popcorn, cause there's nothing you can do about it short of an all out revolt. Personally I don't need to be killing anyone, yet.

It'll be at least 2 generations from now before the uprising, probably longer as the conversion to socialism is taking a little longer than usual, but such things happen if you look at history.

Personally, I can stitch my own wounds and take care of my own colds, if I get cancer then let it take me. Why fight with the will of the gods? Enjoy life for now and try not to let it get to you. Putting up with some of the BS that goes along with socialism is a pain in the rear but far worse to die of a stroke from worrying about it. If you aren't ready to take up arms then don't let it bother you.


We will never see socialism here so that is a mute point.


Nearly every country in europe is slowing turning the tide to socialism, and of course I mean the most basic conception that everyone has the same stuff, everyone is equal financially, I don't read into it, just the ideal version. Government health care is the most obvious shift to this trend, and government run corporations are a big hint. You may be right, but you might not.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 08/15/09 08:52 PM



The gov't could not run a fruit stand, let alone health care. grumble

Oh they can run things allright... They just do it for the benefit of themeselves...

and not US.


I just hate the thought of the shemonster-Pelosi over looking my health care ill

ahh but she won't be.

There will be a czar and a secretary... Ummm... Czar... Aint that russian for LORD.

and they will be protected by this bill from prosecution... Magna Carta reversed...

Is that good for US?

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:19 PM


We are converting to a socialist state, pull up a chair and get some popcorn, cause there's nothing you can do about it short of an all out revolt. Personally I don't need to be killing anyone, yet.

It'll be at least 2 generations from now before the uprising, probably longer as the conversion to socialism is taking a little longer than usual, but such things happen if you look at history.

Personally, I can stitch my own wounds and take care of my own colds, if I get cancer then let it take me. Why fight with the will of the gods? Enjoy life for now and try not to let it get to you. Putting up with some of the BS that goes along with socialism is a pain in the rear but far worse to die of a stroke from worrying about it. If you aren't ready to take up arms then don't let it bother you.


We will never see socialism here so that is a mute point.
:smile: We have had a capitalist/socialist mixture since the late 1800s.:smile: Ever since Karl Marx's ideas improved the lives and working conditions of people across the worldflowerforyou Pure capitalism was when we still had slaves.:smile: That is what pure capitalism leads to:smile: Socialists were the people who started orphanages and improved safety conditions for people working in coal mines and things like that.:smile:

Giocamo's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:26 PM
Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...

Giocamo's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:33 PM



We are converting to a socialist state, pull up a chair and get some popcorn, cause there's nothing you can do about it short of an all out revolt. Personally I don't need to be killing anyone, yet.

It'll be at least 2 generations from now before the uprising, probably longer as the conversion to socialism is taking a little longer than usual, but such things happen if you look at history.

Personally, I can stitch my own wounds and take care of my own colds, if I get cancer then let it take me. Why fight with the will of the gods? Enjoy life for now and try not to let it get to you. Putting up with some of the BS that goes along with socialism is a pain in the rear but far worse to die of a stroke from worrying about it. If you aren't ready to take up arms then don't let it bother you.


We will never see socialism here so that is a mute point.
:smile: We have had a capitalist/socialist mixture since the late 1800s.:smile: Ever since Karl Marx's ideas improved the lives and working conditions of people across the worldflowerforyou Pure capitalism was when we still had slaves.:smile: That is what pure capitalism leads to:smile: Socialists were the people who started orphanages and improved safety conditions for people working in coal mines and things like that.:smile:


you're kiddin'me right ?

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:38 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 08/15/09 09:40 PM




We are converting to a socialist state, pull up a chair and get some popcorn, cause there's nothing you can do about it short of an all out revolt. Personally I don't need to be killing anyone, yet.

It'll be at least 2 generations from now before the uprising, probably longer as the conversion to socialism is taking a little longer than usual, but such things happen if you look at history.

Personally, I can stitch my own wounds and take care of my own colds, if I get cancer then let it take me. Why fight with the will of the gods? Enjoy life for now and try not to let it get to you. Putting up with some of the BS that goes along with socialism is a pain in the rear but far worse to die of a stroke from worrying about it. If you aren't ready to take up arms then don't let it bother you.


We will never see socialism here so that is a mute point.
:smile: We have had a capitalist/socialist mixture since the late 1800s.:smile: Ever since Karl Marx's ideas improved the lives and working conditions of people across the worldflowerforyou Pure capitalism was when we still had slaves.:smile: That is what pure capitalism leads to:smile: Socialists were the people who started orphanages and improved safety conditions for people working in coal mines and things like that.:smile:


you're kiddin'me right ?



:smile: Living and working conditions were so bad in some countries that full scale revolutions broke out when Karl Marx published his ideas.:smile: Other countries such as the United States adopted a mixture of capitalism and socialism.:smile: Safe working conditions,orphanages,pensions for the elderly,disabilty compensation,unions,and programs to feed the starving were started throughout various parts of the world by socialists in the late 1800s:smile: These ideas proved to be popular.:smile:

Logan1976's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:43 PM
The encyclopidia says that socialism has proved to be nothing more than a set of ideals used to find faults with other types of government.

Winx's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:50 PM

We are converting to a socialist state, pull up a chair and get some popcorn, cause there's nothing you can do about it short of an all out revolt. Personally I don't need to be killing anyone, yet.

It'll be at least 2 generations from now before the uprising, probably longer as the conversion to socialism is taking a little longer than usual, but such things happen if you look at history.

Personally, I can stitch my own wounds and take care of my own colds, if I get cancer then let it take me. Why fight with the will of the gods? Enjoy life for now and try not to let it get to you. Putting up with some of the BS that goes along with socialism is a pain in the rear but far worse to die of a stroke from worrying about it. If you aren't ready to take up arms then don't let it bother you.


You probably will change your mind about that cancer after you have children. Just saying.

Winx's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:53 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 08/15/09 09:53 PM

Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.



AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 08/15/09 09:58 PM


Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.




The people in the town halls are the tip of the ice berg.

bigsmile

Giocamo's photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:00 PM


Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.





are you living in a dream world ?...check the polls...try listening to something other then NPR or MS-LSD...I don't know who you're talking to...but this guy...is less popular then Clinton ever was...:smile:

Winx's photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:07 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 08/15/09 10:09 PM



Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.



are you living in a dream world ?...check the polls...try listening to something other then NPR or MS-LSD...I don't know who you're talking to...but this guy...is less popular then Clinton ever was...:smile:


Living in a dream world? MS-LSD?huh

I'm talking about everybody that I know in St. Louis that voted for him.

They like it that Bush is gone and McCain/Palin aren't in office.bigsmile

Clinton wasn't all that unpopular, btw.





Winx's photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:08 PM



Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.




The people in the town halls are the tip of the ice berg.

bigsmile


I don't doubt that there are others. The ones in the town halls are looking foolish, IMO.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:12 PM




Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.




The people in the town halls are the tip of the ice berg.

bigsmile


I don't doubt that there are others. The ones in the town halls are looking foolish, IMO.

Yep THAT would be the right tactic to play this down... Call them foolish for speaking their minds.

Some of what they are saying is lies fed to them... Some of what they are saying is right on the money... Or lack of it and true government by US.

Winx's photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:15 PM





Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.


The people in the town halls are the tip of the ice berg.

bigsmile


I don't doubt that there are others. The ones in the town halls are looking foolish, IMO.

Yep THAT would be the right tactic to play this down... Call them foolish for speaking their minds.

Some of what they are saying is lies fed to them... Some of what they are saying is right on the money... Or lack of it and true government by US.


I don't call them foolish for speaking their minds. I call them foolish for their behavior at these meetings.

I also see that the Tea Party started out as a grass roots organization. Now they have Republican speakers at their meetings. They're changing.

no photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:29 PM



Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.




The people in the town halls are the tip of the ice berg.

bigsmile


If that is the case then the tip of the iceberg also includes those who want a public plan. I don't go to town halls but I do talk to my neighbors who, except for one wants health care reform and a public option.

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Sat 08/15/09 10:33 PM


I don't call them foolish for speaking their minds. I call them foolish for their behavior at these meetings.

I also see that the Tea Party started out as a grass roots organization. Now they have Republican speakers at their meetings. They're changing.


Whom else would they have speaking? If they had democrats than the conservatives would be pissy. Its either or O_O

no photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:50 PM





Obama is one big scare tactic...these townhall uprisings are the American people saying NO...to all of Obamas government takeovers...healthcare is just the excuse...to voice their opinion...this guy and his policies are being rejected by MOST Americans...


He doesn't scare me. The second term with Bush did though.

We've had the uprisings at two hall meetings here. One was a meeting about aging. The people doing the uprising made it into health care. Fights started. The people doing the uprising are in the minority.

Where do you get "most people"? I haven't met any yet.




The people in the town halls are the tip of the ice berg.

bigsmile


I don't doubt that there are others. The ones in the town halls are looking foolish, IMO.

Yep THAT would be the right tactic to play this down... Call them foolish for speaking their minds.

Some of what they are saying is lies fed to them... Some of what they are saying is right on the money... Or lack of it and true government by US.


I have seen people out there on the opposing side who have acted respectfully and were treated the same way. Others shouted and pointed at representatives with angry contorted facial expressions, and pretty much were tolerated but it didn't create an atmosphere of discussion, instead people chanted slogans and insults.

One can't play it down it's too obvious. You won't get anything from me if you scream at me, didn't these people learn that from their parents? I don't think you have to be on either side of this to be a moron, some folks just have never learned to communicate with out anger and violence.

Quietman_2009's photo
Sat 08/15/09 10:53 PM
one thing to keep in mind is that these angry people are still constituents, voters

and the legislaters need to address the anger and where it comes from or they wont be re elected