Indi-genius? Zap.....more coffee for you...

I genuinely don't know..some of what you guys talk about I dont
understand, it is like KariZ and I...colloquialisms..and slang..Aussie
is different to American..so some gets lost in translation I guess...

Is the correct term Native Americans?

Who killed the electric car wiki has the answer oil companies ???

Jess, either will do. It was just a sad play on words on my part. lol
One of my employees is Korean and he struggles with the slang. My best
employee. He works the hardest and doesn't sit around complaining,
therefore he is the highest paid employee. Just gave him another 50 cent
raise last Friday for no reason other than that I appreciate his work.
How did I get onto this tangent? Oh yeah, slang. Maybe what we are
reading from Kari is a lot of angry slang rather than simply slang? I
can possibly see that.

Zap...I have known KariZ for over six months from another site...and yes
angry...but only because he feels so passionately..

and it is hard for you guys over there, Australia is in a terrrible
drought, and we see what is happening here, and the countries closest to
us in the Southern Hemispere, friends in the Northern Hemisphere telling
similar stories of what they see.

We dont have fifty years water storage here, we dont have two, for the
eastern seaboard of Australia.

It is a dry country, getting drier.

We see more than just here, though, almost a unique perspective, looking
outside of us, almost.

So angry, passionate? yes... KariZ and I both.

We were brought up as Aussie kids running barefoot, almost wild, in the
Australian bushland, we have seen a lot of changes in only a short time,
historically.

more coffee

Funlover...do you have hybrid cars as mainstream vehicles available
there in the States?

We do here, although the market is still small, it seems to be gaining
in popularity, aspaecially amongst city dwellers and commuters.

I have not seen what has happened with the 'killing' of electric cars,
and technology, and I am not so keen on wikipedia documents..it is hard
to cross reference the source.

We have every kind of car .

including a dragster that blows away all gas dragstes

an electric dragster a million dollar price tag on it..

gas is out of the top speed record holders on a drag race

The Tzero only has a top speed of 100 MPH. The trend is toward hydrogen
cars for a number of reasons. I am well versed on electric vehicles,
mainly from the commercial/industrial end. Early on, the systems tried
in electric automobiles were SCR (silicon contrlled rectifier)
controlled. Not an efficient system and too susceptible to failure.
Gating on the main SCR was simple but the complication came into play
with shutting the darned thing off. The oscillator circuitry as well as
the associated diodes and SCR's required to reverse biase the main SCR
by overvoltage stimulation to the cathode of the main SCR, well, you get
my point.
Next came the transistorized oscillaton system which made DC motor speed
control much more reliable with 0-100% cycling. Less damage due to heat
but their was not a transistor that was large enough to handle large
current draw so the largest transistors available were wired in
parallei. If one blew, the rest followed suit like dominoes falling.
Now we have AC. DC inverted to chopped AC. Intriquing. Vastly more
reliable. I will keep watching with great interest. For those of you
that were bored by this, I apologize. I used to teach industrial
electricity/electronics. To Fanta, this is right up yer alley, ain't it
pal? lol

Getting there, LMAO
I understood about 1/2 of it, maybe more! LOL
I do understand the terminology and most of the principals, but the
applications you were talking about just raises twice as many
questions..You knew that though didnt you!!!

Now on PBS web site Who Killed the Electric Car

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/223/index.html

Fanta, you won't get into SCR controls with PLC's unless you are dealing
with specific equipment. Servo controls would be more of your kick which
I am familiar with also. If you are the type of troubleshooter that lays
in bed at night going over the schematic in your head like an 8 track
player and suddenly the answer comes to you, you will make a fine
Technician. BTW Electronics Technician-Zapchaser. Same thing.
Cheers!

yep, Im learning, but the SCR thing was alien. How'd you know?
I'll find out, but it drives my instructors crazy that I ask questions
all the time that are way ahead of what we are learning. LMAO
I was in class the other day trying to get them to show me how to
program the PLC's to do multiple timed and cyclic functions, and we are
only in the second day of PLC class!!!

They are like slow down, we will get there! ROFLMAO
I was reading up on transistors one day and was asking them the next how
they were built and all the what nots about charging the silicons to be
neg. or pos.. Same thing slow down your asking questions 2 semesters
ahead of the rest of the class.

I think you can build a single transistor that would handle that
current. How big would be the question and what materials.
Like I said you raised twice as many questions in my mind, and I will
seek answers.......

EV's have been an interest of mine for quite some time. I don't know as
much about electronics as I do about vehicles themselves. Electric cars
are actually older than ICE(internal combustion engine) vehicles.
I see the biggest hinderance in EV's being battery technology. There are
positives and negatives to each different type. Sorry, I couldn't
resist! Cost, weight, heat and range are big factors. Having a
vehicle that can only travel 50 miles on a charge is limiting. Great for
city commuting.
AC controllers and 3 phase motors seem to be the way to go. DC has too
many limitations although it is much cheaper and less complicated. I
have a friend who wants me to build him a small electric truck for his
farm. Just for doing chores and going in to town and back. I've found an
electric forklift to cannabalise and some of the other pieces. Looking
in to Optima dry cells for weight and price. Just not sure how long
they'll last.
I've found some interesting sites that have information, schematics and
forums on EV's if your interested in building one.
As far as the consumer market is concerned, it hasn't caught on in North
America like it has in Europe. There are a few companies building
hybrids and some straight EV's. Not just the large manufacturers either.
It seems the general public just isn't interested considering how easy
it is to just buy gas and whine about it.

Fanta, cool your P/N junction grasshoppa! I have built both SCR and
transistorized DC motor controls. I will start a new post in the General
Section if you are interested. I think we might be boring others
here.

I LOVE ELECTRONICS!!!!!

I think I could **** a lightning bolt,, LMAO

You would blow your head off

Funlover? Where did you go? Hello? It's not the oil companies that
killed the electric car? Drat! Oh how quickly we can jump to conclusions
when we simply lack the knowlege to make an informed opinion.

F Y I .... For Your Information !!!

Who Killed The Electric Car go to this web. site

http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/

also wikipedia.org

EMS: Eat My Shorts
BHNJ: Black Helicopter Nut Jobs
LATSYWSIAHAIOF: Learn About Technology So You Will Have Answers Instead
Of Fears
TFRT: Thanks For Reading This

SUOTTAS: Screwed Up On The Third Acronym, Sorry