Topic: need advice on a family issue
Queene123's photo
Mon 08/03/09 09:25 PM
i had left a post awhile back on my daughter as she is in a gay relationship sense last yr and her partner dad is dying. and they plan to move over to her partner country (tinian) out by guam
well my daughter divorce hasent been final yet but will be shortly according to her. and her partner has actually proposed to her.. the thing is that my daughter told my mom that her partner has enough mileage save for one of the kids. so meaning she would take one of my grandkids with her... which is crap. for her partner has no right for she is not legaly there or is she there guardian, she has no right to let her partner take any of my grandkids without my daughter to her country... she doesnt even have the money... they have been selling praticly everything in the house even selling her truck that she bought when she got her taxes. they knew then they were going to leave.(they wernt thinking) no one has any money to even try to consider buying the truck.
and i keep asking her if you dont sell the truck what are you going to do, and her reply back is dont be so negative... well im not im just asking what she going to do for her partner is needing to leave in 2weeks..
as for my grandkids the 2 oldest ones there dad didnt sign there birthcertifcate but for the baby (she 3yrs) he sign it and yes he is the father of all 3 kids. and i know that they dont want to go they have stated that several times.my daughter is giving up a good job to go to country where there min wage is under $4 hour.. thats pretty bad.

i admit im stubborn.. but crap my daughter is 3times more stubborn than me....

i guess im needing to vent over this crap... my grandkids are not going to be happy....
as for my grandkids dad well he cant do anything hes been in jail for 2yrs and has another 3yrs to go..

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Mon 08/03/09 09:37 PM
I'm sorry. flowerforyou I hope everything works out alright.flowerforyou

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Mon 08/03/09 09:38 PM
im sorry i dont have any advice, but i hope sending positive thoughts your way will help...flowerforyou

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Mon 08/03/09 09:48 PM
sorry you have to worry about this Queene, hope it all falls into place for you. flowerforyou :heart:

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Mon 08/03/09 10:43 PM
no advice just know i'm thinking of you!!flowerforyou

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Tue 08/04/09 12:32 AM
From what I have witnessed about divorces, until thier final, starting a new relationship could be very detrimental to the cause. There's always a chance the soon to be ex, has hired a private investigator under suspicion and bitterness that the one they still have a flame for, might have found happiness elsewhere, or they simply want custody of thier children, which is understandable.
Sorry my comments couldn't have been more uplifting, but young people in love, especially on the rebound, aren't known for being open to advice on thier relationship. Maybe you could get her to agree to go see an independant attorney, and have them talk some sense to her.
I wish my comments would have been a little more useful, but that's my understanding of the situation, from my expierience. Best of luck to ya sis.

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Tue 08/04/09 04:24 AM
oh dear scared

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Tue 08/04/09 05:05 AM
Edited by papersmile on Tue 08/04/09 05:07 AM
i'm guessing this is a permanent move and not a temporary visit?

if the father is a good dad (i don't know what he's in jail for), i'd probably make him aware of what's about to happen and perhaps he could somehow prevent it. surely the children's quality of life will be MUCH better in America?

personally, i think it's important that dads get to be just as big a part of their children's lives as their mom (providing there are no major criminal/abuse issues).

your daughter will probably be livid but if you really are doing it for the kids (and not for yoursef) it'll be something with which you'll just have to live.

good luck.

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Tue 08/04/09 05:18 AM
How could she just let someone take her child out of the country? Let alone split her children up? This just seems wrong to me. How long has she been with this partner? She sure has a lot more trust than I would have. I would at least check with a lawyer since you are a grandparent and see what your rights are. Some states do have grandparents rights.

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Tue 08/04/09 06:53 AM

How could she just let someone take her child out of the country? Let alone split her children up? This just seems wrong to me. How long has she been with this partner? She sure has a lot more trust than I would have. I would at least check with a lawyer since you are a grandparent and see what your rights are. Some states do have grandparents rights.


yea i was just talking to my sister last nite about grandparent rights. so i could call a lawyer and ask
and yea when my mom told me what my daughter told her.. that just blew me away...

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Tue 08/04/09 06:56 AM

From what I have witnessed about divorces, until thier final, starting a new relationship could be very detrimental to the cause. There's always a chance the soon to be ex, has hired a private investigator under suspicion and bitterness that the one they still have a flame for, might have found happiness elsewhere, or they simply want custody of thier children, which is understandable.
Sorry my comments couldn't have been more uplifting, but young people in love, especially on the rebound, aren't known for being open to advice on thier relationship. Maybe you could get her to agree to go see an independant attorney, and have them talk some sense to her.
I wish my comments would have been a little more useful, but that's my understanding of the situation, from my expierience. Best of luck to ya sis.


you just made me laugh... my soon to be ex son-nlaw hire a private investigator... how with what money hes in freaken jail.. (what a joke) and even if he wasent in jail he wouldnt hire one, and there is no way on earth we would even let him take custody of the kids even if he wasent in jail...

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Tue 08/04/09 02:57 PM


From what I have witnessed about divorces, until thier final, starting a new relationship could be very detrimental to the cause. There's always a chance the soon to be ex, has hired a private investigator under suspicion and bitterness that the one they still have a flame for, might have found happiness elsewhere, or they simply want custody of thier children, which is understandable.
Sorry my comments couldn't have been more uplifting, but young people in love, especially on the rebound, aren't known for being open to advice on thier relationship. Maybe you could get her to agree to go see an independant attorney, and have them talk some sense to her.
I wish my comments would have been a little more useful, but that's my understanding of the situation, from my expierience. Best of luck to ya sis.


you just made me laugh... my soon to be ex son-nlaw hire a private investigator... how with what money hes in freaken jail.. (what a joke) and even if he wasent in jail he wouldnt hire one, and there is no way on earth we would even let him take custody of the kids even if he wasent in jail...

Just something I went through about ten years ago with a girl that was going through a divorce. Her ex-mother-in-law hired the P.I. for the drug dealing, abusive husband and he nearly got custody. The jail part I missed however, and can see where that would permeately ruin his chances for custody