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Lee,
 My only concern is that the reaction would be at the master's own expense. It seems counter-productive for society on a whole. |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Sun 08/02/09 03:10 PM
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Jess642:
That's what I am asking of others...how do they manage false accusations? IF the professional legal assistance isn't really necessary, then you would have to question the other's motives for arriving to the false accusation -- because that's what at the centre of every accusation: AN ASSUMPTION (or premise). ***> If you could uncover the false premise for the accusation, the problem would evaporate by itself! P.S. There's a saying in the computer programming circle: "Never assume! Because when you AssUme, you're making an_ASS out of U and ME"! |
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Jess,
Thats a great story! One of my favorites. Several times I have been wrongly accused, in my absence, by people who didn't know me. Under those particular circumstances: at best I was amused, at worst I was saddened by what this says about our whole culture. But in these situations, there were no additional problems created - there was no baby left at my doorstep; some people have lost their jobs over false accusations; some people have gone to jail; some have had their trust in their spouse destroyed; for me, I just had a large group of non-discerning people telling each other lies about me. Who cares? I saw this as a gift, as it helped me to see which human beings had the wisdom to practice discrimination and objectivity. The people who believe unverified lies were not the people whose opinions should matter to me. It has also shown me how important it is to stand up for greater objectivity when accusations are made about others - especially if it might adversely effect their life in some significant way. Very recently someone preferred her own incorrect conclusion-jumping rather than take the truths I spoke at face value. When someone has that unfortunate, ignorant tendency, why bother trying to convince them? I say conserve your energy, and apply it where it matters. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Mon 08/03/09 04:39 PM
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To be obsessed with the false impressions or personal opinions about about your character that other people have created in their minds can only distract you from your purpose in life. ... if you even know what that is.
For every person that knows you, or even knows of you, there will be a false impression or opinion about you that you may not relish if you knew about it. Don't sweat the small stuff. Get on with your life and your purpose. |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Mon 08/03/09 07:25 PM
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That's what I am asking of others...how do they manage false accusations? There you go, Jess: Others either not sweat over the "insignificant" stuff, and "conserve your energy" -- i.e. WAIT 'TIL IT BLOWS OVER -- _________________________OR_________________________ (if the accusation really bothers you because it is wrong) some of the others would have to uncover the false premise for the accusation! The choice is your's: you either hide your head under the wing (like an austridge), OR start asking questions... Though, whatever you do, you shouldn't Worry -- BE HAPPY -- and "conserve your energy"... LOL |
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Trade....thankyou, (and for the tutorial, much appreciated
 ) JB....you always encourage a smile... Jane...thankyou. Michael...I'm REALLY ok with it.
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You defend yourself when you're not sure of who you are, I say my point of view once and that's enough,
I won't arguee with you I'll tell you what I believe and you do what you want with it. Ia m who i am and cannot be anything else no matter what others say or believe. |
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You defend yourself when you're not sure of who you are, I say my point of view once and that's enough, I won't arguee with you I'll tell you what I believe and you do what you want with it. Ia m who i am and cannot be anything else no matter what others say or believe. I would find it rather hard though not to defend myself when something is at stake e.g. my job, my family. I just have to choose my priorities when it comes to this. |
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Edited by
earthytaurus76
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Tue 08/04/09 05:35 AM
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I want to learn to be 'Is that so?"... Would that not mean to remove your inner self from the outside world to a certain extent? Can we really do this in a busy life where we go to work, get in touch with new people all the time? Would that not that make us a hermit of sorts if we don't care about the outer world anymore? Just a few questions I would ponder about on my way to becoming 'Is that so?' I don't have the answers Ms A.... What I hear in this story is someone so profoundly comfortable in his understandings of himself, that 'exterior' accusations fall from him like water... I agree, it would be removing one's inner self from the 'outside' influences... not taking on other's perceptions of who you are. I feel that we can remove our inner self...perhaps not 'remove', but not 'engage' (is a better word) the fragile ago aspect of ourself...the part of us that requires recognition, or accolades...the demanding aspect of ourself that requires 'being liked'.. and becomes reactionary when 'disliked' or accused of untruths. Is it being uncaring of the 'outer' world, or rather, unaffected by the 'outer' world's untruths? That's more how I see it...external (being other people, or societal) influences that are not our truth. I think it has to do more with a certain acceptance of the situation for the zen master. In Zen, awareness is important, and remaining in a meditative state while going through life. I dont think it means that one does not care. In Buddhisim, and zen alike the belief is that wanting brings suffering. |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Tue 08/04/09 09:55 PM
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That's a very sophisticated answer!
I'm just wondering, Are we reading different OP's? The OP I'm reading clearly states: That's what I am asking of others...how do they manage false accusations? The way I see it, it depends on your social authority: if you're capable of securing the reputation of a wise person, then you can cetainly allow yourself the luxury of dismissing any argument with an exclamation "IS THAT SO?" |
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I can do no more
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I can do no more ALL BY YOUR LONESOME SELF, OR TOGETHER WITH NOTLONELY? ? ? |
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