Topic: Grizzley Man Diaries
auburngirl's photo
Fri 07/17/09 07:38 AM
Has anybody seen this? I saw it for the first time a couple of years ago. It was on again late last night. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. This guy, Timothy Treadwell, IMHO, was an idiot. His cause was certainly justified enough (to protect the grizzly bear) but to go and LIVE amoung them!? He got some incredible footage of bears and some were extremely close to him with no reaction. In the end though, he was attacked and killed by one.

Just wondered what others thought.

lostdude's photo
Fri 07/17/09 07:40 AM
thats pretty cool actually. sounds exciting, to bad he got hurt though. i hope the bears dont get put down because of it

jtip1977's photo
Fri 07/17/09 07:44 AM
He was able to get a lot of pretty awesome pics and to study grizzly's up close, but was it really worth it? Not only was he killed, but his girlfriend was too. They were both partially eaten by Grizzly's. Not the way I would want to leave this world.

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Fri 07/17/09 08:01 AM
I can think of no better way to die than doing something you love and and have a passion for. Grizzly's were it for him. And while I'm sure he didn't want to die, I think he'd probably feel it was worth it.

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Fri 07/17/09 08:07 AM

I can think of no better way to die than doing something you love and and have a passion for. Grizzly's were it for him. And while I'm sure he didn't want to die, I think he'd probably feel it was worth it.


Ok - I understand your point. I was merely pointing out the fact that he got eaten alive. I'm sure he suffered a tremendous amount. And he was very comfortable and never thought that would happen to him. His girlfriend was afraid of bears and because of his reassurance, she went with him.......and then they were eaten.

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Fri 07/17/09 08:12 AM
I'm bearifically sowwwy that it had to come to such a ghastly ending like this.Well here is the real truth of this harrowing tale.We accepted them into the fold of our loving family so they could learn how to co-exist w/ us friendly animals.Well we're all sitting around the campfire w/ these silly humans & swapping tales of bravery,nasty hunters & how to obtain a peaceful planet.Well all of a sudden he jumps up & points a gun at his girlfriend & starts calling her filthy names because she forgot to pack marshmallows.So I growled & he turned the gun on me so I lopped his head off.Well she starts screaming & plucks the gun from his quivering hand & tries to shoot me.So I was forced to lop off her coconut also.Yes it was dreadful & I feel remorse for this action however I must protect myself & my cubs.I truly hope that mankind has learned a valuable lesson here.


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Fri 07/17/09 08:22 AM
There was a documentary film called Grizzly Man that came out in 2005. It had much footage of Treadwell and interviews of those who knew him. I think he felt that the connection with the bears aided in his recovery from hard drugs in the 80's. Watching footage that he took of himself-like Survivorman left me feeling that this man was a very troubled individual. I remember thinking about it days after I watched it.

Briefly saw a couple minutes of the diary show. I think he also wrote a book about the Grizzlies and I don't know if the diary show is based on the book. I think that during the movie they might have aired the audio portion of the last few minutes of his life....very chilling to listen to.

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Fri 07/17/09 08:29 AM


I can think of no better way to die than doing something you love and and have a passion for. Grizzly's were it for him. And while I'm sure he didn't want to die, I think he'd probably feel it was worth it.


Ok - I understand your point. I was merely pointing out the fact that he got eaten alive. I'm sure he suffered a tremendous amount. And he was very comfortable and never thought that would happen to him. His girlfriend was afraid of bears and because of his reassurance, she went with him.......and then they were eaten.


I haven't seen the show. And I feel for his girlfriend. But, she did make her choice for whatever reasons. They both knew, or should have known, how dangerous something like that could be. And even though there were no problems 8 billion times before, there's always a chance something can go horrifically wrong, which it did. I feel for their families but not so much for them, sad to say.

I also didn't really feel sorry for Dale Earnhardt, or anyone else, who chooses stuff like that as a profession. It's part of the risk of doing something they love and I'm sure he, at least, accepted that risk.


adj4u's photo
Fri 07/17/09 08:40 AM
it is better to live a shortened life and be happy doing what you like

than it is

to live a long life feeling miserable because you are not doing things you like

just a thought

but hey ...............

adj4u's photo
Fri 07/17/09 08:44 AM


I also didn't really feel sorry for Dale Earnhardt, or anyone else, who chooses stuff like that as a profession. It's part of the risk of doing something they love and I'm sure he, at least, accepted that risk.




just a thought

if you get into a vehicle and go somewhere

if you walk across the street

or if you go swimming

and it leads to your death

seeing as how we all know there is risk involved does that mean we should not feel sorrow for them

just a thought...........

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Fri 07/17/09 08:58 AM
I didn't say that, well, I did. But that's just normal living, there's risk in everything we do, really. But to deliberately choose as a profession or a hobby something so inherently dangerous, is choosing to take a much higher risk. And it's not that I don't feel sorry for them, I'm sure it's a horrible death. But still, I don't necessarily think it's that much of a tragedy either, for their families, yes, but for them? Not so much.

adj4u's photo
Fri 07/17/09 09:15 AM

I didn't say that, well, I did. But that's just normal living, there's risk in everything we do, really. But to deliberately choose as a profession or a hobby something so inherently dangerous, is choosing to take a much higher risk. And it's not that I don't feel sorry for them, I'm sure it's a horrible death. But still, I don't necessarily think it's that much of a tragedy either, for their families, yes, but for them? Not so much.


the leading cause of accidental death is auto mishaps

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4. THE MOST COMMON CAUSE OF ACCIDENTAL DEATH

1. Motor vehicle
crashes
Deaths per year: 43,200

The winner, by a ridiculously huge (and ever-increasing) margin is: death by car wreck. Head on collision, sideswipe, single-vehicle smash-up, full car rollover, pedestrian takedown, choking on own carsick vomit, spontaneous combustion-the fun never stops for car owners. Try air travel instead; it's much safer. Do you see it anywhere on this list?

http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/toptens/accidents/accidents4.html

a lot more dangerous than nascar

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but i know what you mean

but it is not a reason to not feel sorrow

after all military service is voluntary do those that chose that profession also get no sorrow if their choice of jobs lead to their death

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auburngirl's photo
Fri 07/17/09 09:30 AM

There was a documentary film called Grizzly Man that came out in 2005. It had much footage of Treadwell and interviews of those who knew him. I think he felt that the connection with the bears aided in his recovery from hard drugs in the 80's. Watching footage that he took of himself-like Survivorman left me feeling that this man was a very troubled individual. I remember thinking about it days after I watched it.

Briefly saw a couple minutes of the diary show. I think he also wrote a book about the Grizzlies and I don't know if the diary show is based on the book. I think that during the movie they might have aired the audio portion of the last few minutes of his life....very chilling to listen to.


laugh laugh laugh I know that is why I named this thread Grizzly Man Diaries

auburngirl's photo
Fri 07/17/09 09:33 AM

I didn't say that, well, I did. But that's just normal living, there's risk in everything we do, really. But to deliberately choose as a profession or a hobby something so inherently dangerous, is choosing to take a much higher risk. And it's not that I don't feel sorry for them, I'm sure it's a horrible death. But still, I don't necessarily think it's that much of a tragedy either, for their families, yes, but for them? Not so much.


I agree. We can't prevent accidents, but most normal people don't go plop down by a 10 ft whatever pound grizzly with 6 inch claws and big teeth and expect that everything will be okay if ya just talk sweetly to them.

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Sat 07/18/09 04:21 AM
laugh laugh


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Sat 07/18/09 05:24 AM
I agree with PKD......the guy was troubled. He was one of those people who think it's never going to happen to them. But of course it does. Some of his footage was amazing, but not sure it's worth death. Most people posthumously think he's an idiot for trying to assimilate into the lives of wild animals.

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Sat 07/18/09 05:58 AM


There was a documentary film called Grizzly Man that came out in 2005. It had much footage of Treadwell and interviews of those who knew him. I think he felt that the connection with the bears aided in his recovery from hard drugs in the 80's. Watching footage that he took of himself-like Survivorman left me feeling that this man was a very troubled individual. I remember thinking about it days after I watched it.

Briefly saw a couple minutes of the diary show. I think he also wrote a book about the Grizzlies and I don't know if the diary show is based on the book. I think that during the movie they might have aired the audio portion of the last few minutes of his life....very chilling to listen to.


laugh laugh laugh I know that is why I named this thread Grizzly Man Diaries


Point taken-was pointing out that the diaries and the movie Grizzly Man are not the same. bigsmile Grizzly Man is an amazing documentary by Werner Herzog that was out years before the diaries. The diaries are some remaining unused footage by Treadwell where narration was added. The movie IMO is better.

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Sat 07/18/09 09:27 PM
ok