Topic: I've Seen 1,200 Torture Photos
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Tue 07/14/09 12:21 PM

Thanks obie won kanobie.......we stopped the genocide.......



crimes against humanity?????? Like Gassing 200,000 Kurds??????
smile2 Kurds ARE Iraqissmile2




:smile: We gave those WMD to Saddam to use on the Iranians.:smile:OOps! guess we got screwed! laugh And how does that relate to photos of women and children being sexually abused and tortured?:smile:

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Tue 07/14/09 12:25 PM
it has do do with stopping our Frankenstein by every means necessary.


MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 12:28 PM

it has do do with stopping our Frankenstein by every means necessary.


:smile: You believe that women and children should be sexually tortured?:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 12:51 PM
:smile: We didn't stop any genocide in Iraq.:smile: It had already happened many years ago and we didnt do anything.:smile: I dont remember Bush saying anything about invading Iraq to stop any genocidehuh

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Tue 07/14/09 12:55 PM

crimes against humanity?????? Like Gassing 200,000 Kurds??????
Let me get this right. We killied or injured over 1 million Iraqis because Sadam used weapons we gave him to kill over 200,000!!!!whoa

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Tue 07/14/09 01:02 PM
Did Saddam Gas His Own People?
U.S. control of Iraq would bring Israel badly needed water
by Stephen C. Pelletiere
. . . President Bush himself has cited Iraq's "gassing its own people," specifically at Halabja, as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein.

But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the Halabja story.

I am in a position to know because, as the Central Intelligence Agency's senior political analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, and as a professor at the Army War College from 1988 to 2000, I was privy to much of the classified material that flowed through Washington having to do with the Persian Gulf. . . .

This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. . . .

The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent -- that is, a cyanide-based gas -- which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2003/0201-GasKurds.html

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Tue 07/14/09 01:42 PM
1 million....??? I doubt it!

plus it is/was a multinational force.....



crimes against humanity?????? Like Gassing 200,000 Kurds??????
Let me get this right. We killied or injured over 1 million Iraqis because Sadam used weapons we gave him to kill over 200,000!!!!whoa

no photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:43 PM
this has been shown as a false conclusion...many many times...but pick the article you like and ignore the rest...


Did Saddam Gas His Own People?
U.S. control of Iraq would bring Israel badly needed water
by Stephen C. Pelletiere
. . . President Bush himself has cited Iraq's "gassing its own people," specifically at Halabja, as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein.

But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the Halabja story.

I am in a position to know because, as the Central Intelligence Agency's senior political analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, and as a professor at the Army War College from 1988 to 2000, I was privy to much of the classified material that flowed through Washington having to do with the Persian Gulf. . . .

This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. . . .

The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent -- that is, a cyanide-based gas -- which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2003/0201-GasKurds.html


MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:43 PM

:smile: We didn't stop any genocide in Iraq.:smile: It had already happened many years ago and we didnt do anything.:smile: I dont remember Bush saying anything about invading Iraq to stop any genocidehuh

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Tue 07/14/09 01:52 PM
the Bush Administration's pitch to the American people was: "Saddam Hussein has chemical and biological weapons and even nuclear weapons that he plans to give to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda who will then smuggle them into the United States and kill tens of thousands of people."

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:54 PM

the Bush Administration's pitch to the American people was: "Saddam Hussein has chemical and biological weapons and even nuclear weapons that he plans to give to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda who will then smuggle them into the United States and kill tens of thousands of people."





bigsmile Was it a "Slam Dunk"?bigsmile

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:54 PM

this has been shown as a false conclusion...many many times...but pick the article you like and ignore the rest...


Did Saddam Gas His Own People?
U.S. control of Iraq would bring Israel badly needed water
by Stephen C. Pelletiere
. . . President Bush himself has cited Iraq's "gassing its own people," specifically at Halabja, as a reason to topple Saddam Hussein.

But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja. We cannot say with any certainty that Iraqi chemical weapons killed the Kurds. This is not the only distortion in the Halabja story.

I am in a position to know because, as the Central Intelligence Agency's senior political analyst on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, and as a professor at the Army War College from 1988 to 2000, I was privy to much of the classified material that flowed through Washington having to do with the Persian Gulf. . . .

This much about the gassing at Halabja we undoubtedly know: it came about in the course of a battle between Iraqis and Iranians. Iraq used chemical weapons to try to kill Iranians who had seized the town, which is in northern Iraq not far from the Iranian border. The Kurdish civilians who died had the misfortune to be caught up in that exchange. . . .

The condition of the dead Kurds' bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent -- that is, a cyanide-based gas -- which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2003/0201-GasKurds.html


No it hasnt ignore the evidence if you wish

supermike48's photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:57 PM
no matter what Saddam done. how is that the business of the USA. the only thing this war has done is made more terrorist that hate America, that was real smart. to the us government butt out.

no photo
Tue 07/14/09 01:58 PM
No it hasnt ignore the evidence if you wish ????????



The captured documents explicitly refer to Iraqi use of chemical weapons against Kurds, called "Anfal" (spoils) operations. Some documents were reviewed by Human Rights Watch in the early 1990s, which issued a report, entitled "Genocide in Iraq." Robert Rabil, a researcher with the IRD Program, has also published an analysis of the documents, in the Middle East Review of International Affairs.

The documents under review never mention Iraqi authorities taking precautions against Iranian uses of chemical weapons, and there is no good evidence that Iran did so. Since Iran and the Kurds were allies, Iran in any case had no motive to gas thousands of Kurds. The Baath documents do frequently mention the Anfal campaign of February-September 1988, when high Baath officials in the north were authorized to gas the Kurds.

no photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:01 PM
ummm...we put him in power and we took him out!!!! And we'll do it again, if we want


no matter what Saddam done. how is that the business of the USA. the only thing this war has done is made more terrorist that hate America, that was real smart. to the us government butt out.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:02 PM

No it hasnt ignore the evidence if you wish ????????



The captured documents explicitly refer to Iraqi use of chemical weapons against Kurds, called "Anfal" (spoils) operations. Some documents were reviewed by Human Rights Watch in the early 1990s, which issued a report, entitled "Genocide in Iraq." Robert Rabil, a researcher with the IRD Program, has also published an analysis of the documents, in the Middle East Review of International Affairs.

The documents under review never mention Iraqi authorities taking precautions against Iranian uses of chemical weapons, and there is no good evidence that Iran did so. Since Iran and the Kurds were allies, Iran in any case had no motive to gas thousands of Kurds. The Baath documents do frequently mention the Anfal campaign of February-September 1988, when high Baath officials in the north were authorized to gas the Kurds.




spock Is Iran the Axis of Evil as Bush said?spock

supermike48's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:04 PM
its awful funny your government backed Saddam in the Iran war.it has been six years since USA invaded Iraq. still have not won anything. hell Iraq don't even have an army. the USA is suppose to be a super power. guess that don't include the army.

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:13 PM

ummm...we put him in power and we took him out!!!! And we'll do it again, if we want


no matter what Saddam done. how is that the business of the USA. the only thing this war has done is made more terrorist that hate America, that was real smart. to the us government butt out.




huh We put him in power and we will put him back??huh Kinda hard to do that since he is dead now.huh And I dont see anything that says we put him in power.huh The Baath party put him in power:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:15 PM

its awful funny your government backed Saddam in the Iran war.it has been six years since USA invaded Iraq. still have not won anything. hell Iraq don't even have an army. the USA is suppose to be a super power. guess that don't include the army.



:smile: If the American people ever see those photos then the wars over.:smile:

supermike48's photo
Tue 07/14/09 02:15 PM
OK now who supplied him arms in the Iran war.