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Topic: The cave you dwell in.
s1owhand's photo
Thu 09/03/09 08:22 PM
peeks out from under the rock.... sees more rocks....
and a shadow!

6 more weeks of winter slaphead

Jess642's photo
Thu 09/03/09 08:27 PM

peeks out from under the rock.... sees more rocks....
and a shadow!

6 more weeks of winter slaphead


Spring sprung here!!!!!


If the sooky clouds would just cry on us, we would have nirvana without the dust.:wink:

wux's photo
Thu 09/03/09 08:31 PM

Is it possible, or even desirable, to leave the cave at all?


Just say 'no'.

Seriously, I think Socrates in the Republic made more claims than he could prove. The old man shamelessly used all kinds of fallacious arguments. If he could not convince someone in the circle of philosophers, he'd outtalk him until the other guy left and then claimed victory.

I loved the book, it carried itself beautifully, but by the time it got to the cave shadows, it had lost me. For me it was too much speculation, without any basis or support in reality. One can use the "tea cup and saucer" argument on Socrates via Plato much more easily and readily than on any number of god(s). At least gods serve a purpose, multiple purposes; the cave shadow argument was a big nothing, in my view. And the ideals gave a concept to all languages in the world, but it was another exercise in futility.

Socrates and Plato got big in Western thought because they were very vividly original thinkers, the two titillated the thoughts of tanked thinkers from the renaissance on.

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