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Topic: 10 commandments
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Sat 06/20/09 10:29 PM
Edited by Modela on Sat 06/20/09 10:31 PM
Do you know what they are in your or by heart?

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Sat 06/20/09 10:33 PM
Only know lieing, stealing, killing & using GODs name in vain which people do everyday! :angry:

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Sat 06/20/09 10:36 PM
Edited by Modela on Sat 06/20/09 10:39 PM

Only know lieing, stealing, killing & using GODs name in vain which people do everyday! :angry:


Isn't that sad? We are back to the book of Judges... where God is great, kind and still compassionate to us all inspite of the wickedness of the human race.

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Sat 06/20/09 10:51 PM

Do you know what they are in your or by heart?


No other Gods, no false images, don't take the name in vain, Sabbath day, honor parents, shall not murder, nor commit adultery, nor steal, no false witness against neighbor, and no coveting either.





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Sat 06/20/09 11:08 PM


Do you know what they are in your or by heart?


No other Gods, no false images, don't take the name in vain, Sabbath day, honor parents, shall not murder, nor commit adultery, nor steal, no false witness against neighbor, and no coveting either.


uuummm what's coveting? slaphead



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Sat 06/20/09 11:13 PM
Edited by Winx on Sat 06/20/09 11:18 PM



Do you know what they are in your or by heart?


No other Gods, no false images, don't take the name in vain, Sabbath day, honor parents, shall not murder, nor commit adultery, nor steal, no false witness against neighbor, and no coveting either.


uuummm what's coveting? slaphead





To wish for.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.

It's fresh in my memory from my child learning them. lol

Don't wrongly wish for your neighbor's house or wife, etc.



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Sat 06/20/09 11:21 PM




Do you know what they are in your or by heart?


No other Gods, no false images, don't take the name in vain, Sabbath day, honor parents, shall not murder, nor commit adultery, nor steal, no false witness against neighbor, and no coveting either.


uuummm what's coveting? slaphead Oh ya I knew that I just forgot! spock whoa





To wish for.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.

It's fresh in my memory from my child learning them. lol

Don't wrongly wish for your neighbor's house or wife, etc.




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Sat 06/20/09 11:30 PM
laugh

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Wed 06/24/09 07:07 AM
I thought George Carlin's were abit easier to remember...check em' out...

GEORGE CARLIN
on
The 10 Commandments


Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10?

You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened:

About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line. They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a mountain, when no one was around.

Well let me ask you this- when they were making this **** up, why did they pick 10? Why not 9 or 11? I'll tell you why- because 10 sound official. Ten sounds important! Ten is the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade, it's a psychologically satisfying number (the top ten, the ten most wanted, the ten best dressed). So having ten commandments was really a marketing decision! It is clearly a bullshit list. It's a political document artificially inflated to sell better. I will now show you how you can reduce the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a little more workable and logical. I am going to use the Roman Catholic version because those were the ones I was taught as a little boy.

Let's start with the first three:

I AM THE LORD THY GOD
THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME

THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN

THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH

Right off the bat the first three are pure bullshit. Sabbath day? Lord's name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. So now we're down to 7. Next:

HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER

Obedience, respect for authority. Just another name for controlling people. The truth is that obedience and respect shouldn't be automatic. They should be earned and based on the parent's performance. Some parents deserve respect, but most of them don't, period. You're down to six.

Now in the interest of logic, something religion is very uncomfortable with, we're going to jump around the list a little bit.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL

THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS

Stealing and lying. Well actually, these two both prohibit the same kind of behavior- dishonesty. So you don't really need two you combine them and call the commandment "thou shalt not be dishonest". And suddenly you're down to 5.

And as long as we're combining I have two others that belong together:

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTRY

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE

Once again, these two prohibit the same type of behavior. In this case it is marital infidelity. The difference is- coveting takes place in the mind. But I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife because what is a guy gonna think about when he's waxing his carrot? But, marital fidelity is a good idea so we're gonna keep this one and call it "thou shalt not be unfaithful". And suddenly we're down to four.

But when you think about it, honesty and fidelity are really part of the same overall value so, in truth, you could combine the two honesty commandments with the two fidelity commandments and give them simpler language, positive language instead of negative language and call the whole thing "thou shalt always be honest and faithful" and we're down to 3.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS

This one is just plain ****in' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o come o ye faithful", and you want one too! Coveting creates jobs, so leave it alone. You throw out coveting and you're down to 2 now- the big honesty and fidelity commandment and the one we haven't talked about yet:

THOU SHALT NOT KILL

Murder. But when you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. More people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable. It depends on who's doin the killin' and who's gettin' killed. So, with all of this in mind, I give you my revised list of the two commandments:

Thou shalt always be honest and faithful
to the provider of thy nookie.

&

Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course
they pray to a different invisible man than you.

Two is all you need; Moses could have carried them down the hill in his ****in' pocket. I wouldn't mind those folks in Alabama posting them on the courthouse wall, as long as they provided one additional commandment:

Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.



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Wed 06/24/09 08:51 AM
Actually most people do not know that there is only one place in the OT that says these are the ten commandments, written in stone and they are not the ten commandments they made the movie out of. Some people need to actually read the Bible.

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Wed 06/24/09 09:34 AM


Only know lieing, stealing, killing & using GODs name in vain which people do everyday! :angry:


Isn't that sad? We are back to the book of Judges... where God is great, kind and still compassionate to us all inspite of the wickedness of the human race.


the 10 commandments come from Exodus chapter 20. Not Judges. it was given after the Iraelites left Egypt

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Wed 06/24/09 09:40 AM
Yes they are in exodus, but not chapter 20, nowhere there does it say they are the 10 commandments, keep reading exodus further.

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Wed 06/24/09 09:57 AM
Exodus is the story of the exit from Egypt. the 10 commandments the OP is talking about is in Exodus 20. exodus is filled with rules and laws that God gave the Israelists. There are books that say the stone tablets were in the Ark of the Convenant. Now if you are asking me if I think it was like the movie with Charelton Heston...then no. But they are in the Bible and were placed in the Ark

Hebrews 9

1Now the first covenant had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. 2A tabernacle was set up. In its first room were the lampstand, the table and the consecrated bread; this was called the Holy Place. 3Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place, 4which had the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. This ark contained the gold jar of manna, Aaron's staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. 5Above the ark were the cherubim of the Glory, overshadowing the atonement cover.[a] But we cannot discuss these things in detail now.

sorry...had to get more coffee.

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Wed 06/24/09 10:04 AM
Exodus chapter 34, in which g-d tells Moses to cut two tables of stone, then relates the commandments and then clearly states in 34:28 " And he wrote upon the tables the words of the convenant, the ten commandments.

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Wed 06/24/09 10:05 AM
Rich...hon...not sure I'm getting your point...sorry, still working on coffee here lol

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Wed 06/24/09 10:11 AM
I am only pointing out that in the Bible there is only one place which lists 10 commandments and calls them 10 commandments and it is not in Chapter 20 of Exodus, it is in Chapter 34 of Exodus. Oh, there is often the heading in chapter 20 that says the 10 commandments, but that is done by the editor not the writer.

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Wed 06/24/09 10:13 AM

I am only pointing out that in the Bible there is only one place which lists 10 commandments and calls them 10 commandments and it is not in Chapter 20 of Exodus, it is in Chapter 34 of Exodus. Oh, there is often the heading in chapter 20 that says the 10 commandments, but that is done by the editor not the writer.


ahhhh gotcha...sorry...my mind is not functioning at full capacity yet. laugh

TBRich's photo
Wed 06/24/09 10:17 AM
I am typing very slowly as I know you can't read too fast until you have your coffee. You know coffee is shown to be a cause in 85% of ulcers, 75% of car s and 92% of extreme high pressure cases, which is why I always say drink up, Shriners! Whenever I see a bunch of them.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 06/24/09 10:18 AM
Rich...the scripture you provided does talk more about exactly what happened but it is listed in Exodus 20 as well

and thank you for your concern...but I can handle my coffee thank you

TBRich's photo
Wed 06/24/09 10:24 AM
I was joking about you and your coffee I know not to come in between someone and their coffee. However, the actually commandments in Chapter 34, differ in terms of the obligation to feast times. I find this interesting as many TV preachers are now claiming we need to continue to honour these holidays (with special seed faith offerings).

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