so....question.....

a mother who considers herself the best mother ever....is very "proud" of being a mom and very independent.....


approach them...or not?

nope........unless you can handle it.

What do YOU want?

do they do that intentionally

or is it a safety thing?

they know only the right guys will bother them

I dont want anything

this is a dating & relationships forum not dear abby


i was asking a hypothetical question............

Red flags pop up all over in my head.

Dated two in my life and ... well we don't need to talk about the rest right now.

One thought she was the best mommie in the world and her kids were "so smart" and bla blabla bla bla. Complete waste of my time, months and months that I'll never get back.

The other used to say how much of a hassle her kids could be but that she was doing the best she could. Awesome girl. Wasn't exactly my type but she's gonna make some guy really happy someday. Just a little "thin skinned" for my taste.

Lesson, Marty Philosophy #14 - The bigger the ego, the bigger the pain in the butt.

hmm, I should make a real Marty Philosophy list some day, cause I do have a lot of those!!! lol

Dear Abby lol .

would love to read it

dam your funny

oh come on ya big whimp.....you guys are all just scared...of us little bitty moms...

i love kids


just dont want to deal with the.."well i have a kid" all the time

Ya just put urself in category #2 Billy

well the kids have to come first...and men in general do not understand this...even if it is their own kids they do not understand..but there has to be a balance..you are are right...

like i said in the pm

dont make it a hurdle for both of us...

i wish ladies realized we are okay with it when you are


and the guys who just straight up are not? well screw them

Am not that scared at all. All's fair in love and war. So what the heck?

I love kids. They need to be showered with love. So its expected that you love the kids and partner equally.

But the question is, who's the first among equals?

The kids need to be raised, so I would say that that should come first definitely.

And Billy and I get told that we generalize too much. Course with all the single moms out there, might be something to that understanding issue. Personally I don't think 50% of the people in the US who have kids know how to take care of them. (men and women)

Only if she is a Hot soccer mom

if shes a great mom she can probably clean and cook pretty well..take a chance

Gentlemen,

There are some men who when they find out you have kids head for the hills. That happens more than you think. So hypothetically, those mom's are probably just striking first.

So imagine if she said "well, I have a kid", you responded with "I love kids". I imagine she might smile. Hypothetically of course.

well when youre a mom you do have a kid all the time.