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Edited by
JaneStar1
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PrciousMetal, is there any knowledge about the rate of fluctuation of the Solar system above/below the galactic plane?
(I'm wondering how close is the Solar system to the outer edge of the galaxy -- above and/or below?) I recently read an article published by scientists from Berkley University -- Robert Rode and Richard Mueller -- who've estimated that, for the last 542 million years, the variation of the planet's bio-diversity has occurred every 62 - 65 million of years! While another scientist from the Kansas University, Andrew Melott, confirmed their findings AND suggested that such a regularity is connected to the movement of the solar system around the center of our galaxy -- thereby varying the level of space radiation... (not to mention the density of the debris floating around) |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Sun 07/26/09 01:50 PM
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Dragoness:
I would say for those who are concerned that they must treat the information as a warning of what is to come and make plans accordingly. *** Sure sounds like you have a huge percentage from the sale of cemetry plots...   
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My dad is a geologist and he reminds me every time this subject comes up that this planet has cycles it goes through. Whether we will survive the cycles is always the important question. This planet goes through arrid times and cold times. The extremes of these will cause problems for the inhabitants of the planet. I would say for those who are concerned that they must treat the information as a warning of what is to come and make plans accordingly. That is pretty much what this thread is all about. The president and chief scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute gave a speech (I copied to the thread later when I realized some did not follow the links to get the 'focus') to the world's leaders explaining that the Gulf Stream ocean current was shutting down as it has done in the past and Europe and much of North America was going to freeze HARD for at least a few years, maybe more. The speech was not to spread panic or create "doomsday" stories. It was to explain that it only took about ten years to happen in the past and the world leaders needed to understand the problem and act accordingly. The world's grain supply would be greatly diminished and that is the food much of the world eats. What was left unspoken was the result of much of the world getting less food than required. |
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Dragoness.
Do realise how much planning you would need to do. It could be in your lifetime... Or it could be in a thousand years... People that planned would have to plan on a diferent time scale... and pass the plan to their children, generation by generation. Would have to be SOME plan. |
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*** Precisely for that reason, purchasing a spot at the local cemetry would have to be the wisest plan! ! !
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*** Precisely for that reason, purchasing a spot at the local cemetry would have to be the wisest plan! ! ! Yeah you could be right. Asterioid or say a comet (like the one that hit Jupiter) smacked into us... its quite certin someone will be able to lug you to the cemetery amidst all the chaos. Situation like that you move out smartly or you become one of the statistics. The wise plan is to insure that when or IF such a thing happened the generation that it happens too... can survive it. |
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Hello Metalwing. Frankly, I'm surprised you don't prefix your nick-name with the word "Precious" -- that would sound more plausable: PreciousMetalwing!!! The information you provided is really quite precious * * * Thanx for your explanations -- I feel ashamed for not comprehending you were referring to the galactic plane. But the fact of the solar system's wobbling above and below that plane is News to me -- I haven't been awared of that!!! That would certainly expose the planet to the harmful cosmic rays more frequently than just when passing closer to the centre of the galaxy... So, the theory I was referring to has really been confirmed! In return, I'd like to share with you the information I discovered just recently: * Analysing the translations of the encient egymptian manuscripts, the scientists have arrived to a conclusion that SOME OF THE PYRAMIDS HAVE BEEN ERRECTED EVEN BEFORE THE PRESTINE SOCIETY! ! ! And later, the farros have utilized and copied the structures. (that could explain why the Gaza(?) pyramid cluster resembles the cluster of some stars -- Sirius + ... What's more, scientists claim, is that the whole set of pyramids represents a grandiose Antena (i.e. receiver)!!! -- while some other scientists claim that pyramids could produce the electric power... Also, according to the translated scriptures, the manual labor has never been used for building the pyramids. Instead, they used some mysterious machine -- which in the bible is referred to as the Arc of the Covenant!!! (according to the new translations..) Ther are 34 pyramids in Egypt, 16 in Mexico, and more than 100 in Tibbets (Hindo-China). And I suspect that some of them could be remains from the past civilizations... Seems like even in the 21st century we're bound to stamble upon some very interesting secrets about ourselves... Atlantis Ancient Astronauts
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PrciousMetal, is there any knowledge about the rate of fluctuation of the Solar system above/below the galactic plane? (I'm wondering how close is the Solar system to the outer edge of the galaxy -- above and/or below?) I recently read an article published by scientists from Berkley University -- Robert Rode and Richard Mueller -- who've estimated that, for the last 542 million years, the variation of the planet's bio-diversity has occurred every 62 - 65 million of years! While another scientist from the Kansas University, Andrew Melott, confirmed their findings AND suggested that such a regularity is connected to the movement of the solar system around the center of our galaxy -- thereby varying the level of space radiation... (not to mention the density of the debris floating around) Jane, I found you a u tube explanation of your Galactic Plane scenario. This "theory" is probably worthy of it's own thread since it really doesn't have anything to do with ocean currents, disappearing rain forests or the like. It falls more in the "Why and how me might get hit with a big chunk of rock again" category. This theory is not exactly mainstream.
In any case, I think you will like it. I think others will find it interesting too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFWFYblkP7c |
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Edited by
warmachine
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Mon 07/27/09 07:15 AM
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All I'm going to say is, if they didn't want this kind of crap to happen, then maybe they ought to not fire the HAARP array into our ionsphere and Carbons are good for life... Carbon based lifeform here... duh...
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Although it picked up a bit recently, the "engine" that powers the Gulf Stream is disappearing as the Arctic ice melts. The difference between the density of the salt water in the North and the ocean near the equator is what powers the Gulf Stream. This flow of water is what warms Europe and keeps it from looking like Siberia. This issue is "big" and has gotten some news coverage but as in all news, if it lacks excitement, it's time to move on. This true story and real problem is the basis of the movie "The Day After Tomorrow". http://www.gulfstreamshutdown.com/ In case anyone has forgotten, the rainforest is disappearing at an ever increasing rate. There is some evidence that, at some point, the rest may disappear rapidly due to the inability to retain water (rainforsest removal usually results in desert conditions). This factory is what makes much of the air we breathe. The primarily third world nations where the rainforests are located are typically poor and have exploding populations who expand by destroying the rainforest for cropland. Since the soil is poor, they then abandon the land (which promptly turns to desert) and cut down more forest. http://www.bionomicfuel.com/loss-of-tropical-rainforest-biome-may-be-a-catastrophe-for-mankind/ Any comments? My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. |
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My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is not part of the 'global warming movement'. They are an objective, independent, highly regarded, state of the art, scientific organization. The amount of objective scientific data linked here is massive. It would appear you made a post without reading the offered information or even looking at the source. |
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My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is not part of the 'global warming movement'. They are an objective, independent, highly regarded, state of the art, scientific organization. The amount of objective scientific data linked here is massive. It would appear you made a post without reading the offered information or even looking at the source. Who funds them? Ain't no such thing as an 'objective' research institute... Money talks. |
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My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is not part of the 'global warming movement'. They are an objective, independent, highly regarded, state of the art, scientific organization. The amount of objective scientific data linked here is massive. It would appear you made a post without reading the offered information or even looking at the source. Who funds them? Ain't no such thing as an 'objective' research institute... Money talks. They are as objective as it gets. Someone who reads an instrument and writes down the fact that the current it measures has slowed by a large percentage doesn't have an axe to grind. All scientific organizations will "reason" that they need more research money. That is basic human nature. To claim that the highest esteemed scientists in the world would fake results just to cause a stir is an invitation for them to get murdered by all the other scientists in the field. Their measurements are purely objective. The interpenetration of the facts they find is open to anyone to do with as they will. Wood's Hole has one of the best reputations in the world. |
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My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is not part of the 'global warming movement'. They are an objective, independent, highly regarded, state of the art, scientific organization. The amount of objective scientific data linked here is massive. It would appear you made a post without reading the offered information or even looking at the source. Who funds them? Ain't no such thing as an 'objective' research institute... Money talks. They are as objective as it gets. Someone who reads an instrument and writes down the fact that the current it measures has slowed by a large percentage doesn't have an axe to grind. All scientific organizations will "reason" that they need more research money. That is basic human nature. To claim that the highest esteemed scientists in the world would fake results just to cause a stir is an invitation for them to get murdered by all the other scientists in the field. Their measurements are purely objective. The interpenetration of the facts they find is open to anyone to do with as they will. Wood's Hole has one of the best reputations in the world. The person(s) that approves any actual release of information knows exactally who pays salaries, keeps the lights on and such. I like to sometimes 'link' data from many places. Is it a coincidence that el nino restarted itself within the right time frame to coincide with the resergance of solar spot activity? We are due for an Ice age we are comming out of the 'warming' trend. Time will tell. Will knowledge be to late for us. (getting ready for 'global warming' wont do us much good when we are freezing). |
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Edited by
JaneStar1
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Mon 07/27/09 02:29 PM
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My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is not part of the 'global warming movement'. They are an objective, independent, highly regarded, state of the art, scientific organization. The amount of objective scientific data linked here is massive. It would appear you made a post without reading the offered information or even looking at the source. Who funds them? Ain't no such thing as an 'objective' research institute... Money talks. AdventureB, you seem to be bent on some kind of a scientific+rich conspiracy? . . . . . . . . . QUESTIONABLE SCENARIO: A group of scientists approaches the funding political body: "We need more funding for our research!" The funding political body replies: O'K, we will provide you with the needed resources, but in exchange we want you to produce a pure speculation which will enable us to squeese more cash out of the pockcets of all those regular folks..." Are you seriously suggesting such a scenario is probable? ? ? |
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Jane,
Did you check out the vid? |
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Jane, Did you check out the vid? I AM SORRY BUT NOT YET... |
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My comments-the global warming movement is just another trick in the Statists' arsenal. It will be used by the State to promote collectivism and destroy laissez-faire capitalism even more. Not only do the "global warming" advocates not have objective proof of their claims, they've replaced logic and empiricism with dogma and empty rhetoric. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute is not part of the 'global warming movement'. They are an objective, independent, highly regarded, state of the art, scientific organization. The amount of objective scientific data linked here is massive. It would appear you made a post without reading the offered information or even looking at the source. Who funds them? Ain't no such thing as an 'objective' research institute... Money talks. AdventureB, you seem to be bent on some kind of a scientific+rich conspiracy? . . . . . . . . . QUESTIONABLE SCENARIO: A group of scientists approaches the funding political body: "We need more funding for our research!" The funding political body replies: O'K, we will provide you with the needed resources, but in exchange we want you to produce a pure speculation which will enable us to squeese more cash out of the pockcets of all those regular folks..." Are you seriously suggesting such a scenario is probable? ? ? I'm not saying ALL scientists are prone to this. Just like ALL wall street exec arnt pricks... But all it takes is one to totally screw the system... and he got away with it for years. It only takes a few in the right places to make this possible. |
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...you mean "FOR YEARS ACCEPTING A NEW THEORY", WITHOUT ANY RIGOROUS TESTING, VERIFICATION, and CONFIRMATION??? (because that is the way the Scientific Community operates...) i.e. a Total Disclosure!!!
That's slightly different from the way a speculative Stock Market operates... |
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I did check out the vid... Fascinating!!!
I've already invested in a townhouse at Maiamy beech... Is that far enough? ? ? |
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