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I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat I wonder if anyone has ever done tests to study that. All nuclear capable countries have done underground testing. The US and Russia have done high altitude testing. Has anyone ever studied the effects of that testing on the atmosphere or climate?   And they say cars and hair spray are responsible for the hole in the o-zone layer... |
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Just from memory, here is my two bit summary. N. Korea has no energy resources, very little food, little education, and a complete fruitcake for a dictator. We gave them a nuclear reactor so they could make electricity under the promise not to make bombs (Jimmy Carter as I recall). They promptly enriched the fuel and started the process to make atomic bombs which was completed and tested recently. They should have enough enriched material to make several more now, maybe as many as twenty. They need cash and it is obvious that they would like to sell some bombs to the middle east. They instantly started blackmailing the west by threats to bomb South Korea and anyone else (US) who got in the way unless we gave them food, oil, money, and technology, which we promptly did. Like all blackmailers, the demands never end. We gave them what they asked for but now they want more and are developing long range missiles to carry out their "treats". They are also making "deals" with countries like Iran to sell missile tech. Anyone feel free to correct me if I got any of this wrong. This sounds a lot like my two-faced unpopular friend in 7th grade. No Good Deed Goes Unpunished Syndrome. |
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my father was Capt. Carleton Voltz and with Ben Stutz, both special intelligence were captured in 63' to 64' as quite famous pow's and traded back for propaganda, N. Korea(in your marine handbook) and his stories of the encarseration were absolutely ruthless. later, my father was on TV to tell how the people of the captured ship "Pueblo", under commander Boucher would be handled.... the story is too long for here, but not much is known even still about the country and it's people, but one thing is for certain, the gov't and soldiers are a very efficient working unit, and their people constantly suffer. nobody for sure could be able to really tell what their next move will be, but whatever it will be, it will be cold, calculated, and malicious toward us. that has never warmed up. when it comes to them, everything is unstable. Wow!! And, yes, this is a country to be feared. And I agree with the other statement that the US is to be made patsy in the long run. We've been scapegoated so many times now, and a lot of it is our own fault, trying to pretend we're such a Goliath nation. |
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Edited by
Aries151
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Wed 06/17/09 09:42 AM
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russia nad china are within the range of n korea rockets as of yet they do not have a rocket to reach the u s "The report on the potential launch preparations came a day after South Korean media reported that an intercontinental rocket had been moved to a new launch facility in northwestern North Korea. The reports, quoting unnamed intelligence officials, said the missile was similar to a long-range rocket that North Korea fired April 5 and was believed to be a Taepodong 2, which has a range of more than 4,000 km, meaning it could reach as far as western US territory if technically perfected." N. Korea has no energy resources, very little food, little education, and a complete fruitcake for a dictator. VERY little education, ant the people are very poor. What's interesting is that most of the people have cables run out to their little hovels they live in and at the end of these are a single speaker. The speaker constantly talks about "their great leader" and how great North Korea is and how evil America and South Korea are. They can't turn them off or change the volume, it's just constant propoganda throughout the day. Crazy. We gave them what they asked for but now they want more and are developing long range missiles to carry out their "treats". So are they going to send us twinkies and ho-ho's via missile?   This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. He's not mad, he's just ronery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCmqzrFL26M |
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. |
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. 
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Edited by
metalwing
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Wed 06/17/09 12:26 PM
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We gave them what they asked for but now they want more and are developing long range missiles to carry out their "treats". So are they going to send us twinkies and ho-ho's via missile? That right! You won't know fear till you have witnessed your loved ones struck by Twinkies at 4,000 mph! Just imagine the horror! |
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. that looks like the 2008 election map oooooppppsssssss 
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. that looks like the 2008 election map oooooppppsssssss It is a map of lingering radiation levels from all nuclear testing. |
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By the looks of that Map we have some real pieces of work right here in our own country, that care more about war games than people.
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. that looks like the 2008 election map oooooppppsssssss It is a map of lingering radiation levels from all nuclear testing. Actually, it is a map of natural background radiation. Rocky mountainous areas always have the most and sandy silty coastal areas have the least. The most residual radiation from bomb tests would be expected to be in New Mexico where the testing was done. |
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Actually, it is a map of natural background radiation. Rocky mountainous areas always have the most and sandy silty coastal areas have the least. The most residual radiation from bomb tests would be expected to be in New Mexico where the testing was done. Actually no it isn't. US_fallout_exposure.png (615 × 432 pixels, file size: 119 KB, MIME type: image/png) Per capita thyroid doses in the continental United States of Iodine-131 resulting from all exposure routes from all atmospheric nuclear tests conducted at the Nevada Test Site. Source: Slightly modified (whitespace made transparent, converted to PNG) from Figure 1 in Study Estimating Thyroid Doses of I-131 Received by Americans From Nevada Atmospheric Nuclear Bomb Test, National Cancer Institute (1997) [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_fallout_exposure.png |
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Actually, it is a map of natural background radiation. Rocky mountainous areas always have the most and sandy silty coastal areas have the least. The most residual radiation from bomb tests would be expected to be in New Mexico where the testing was done. Actually no it isn't. US_fallout_exposure.png (615 × 432 pixels, file size: 119 KB, MIME type: image/png) Per capita thyroid doses in the continental United States of Iodine-131 resulting from all exposure routes from all atmospheric nuclear tests conducted at the Nevada Test Site. Source: Slightly modified (whitespace made transparent, converted to PNG) from Figure 1 in Study Estimating Thyroid Doses of I-131 Received by Americans From Nevada Atmospheric Nuclear Bomb Test, National Cancer Institute (1997) [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_fallout_exposure.png Then they screwed up the map. The map shows natural background radiation highs in the areas that have nothing to do with bomb testing and little radiation in New Mexico where the dirtiest bombs were exploded at ground level before they knew what long term radiation effects surface testing could cause. The chances of fallout coinciding exactly with natural radiation from rock formations and not being concentrated at ground level blast areas is zero. Fallout follows weather patterns, not rock formations. |
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Radioactive contamination
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed. (December 2007) The radiation warning symbol (trefoil). The references here have not been verified. It is just a mistake. |
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Actually, it is a map of natural background radiation. Rocky mountainous areas always have the most and sandy silty coastal areas have the least. The most residual radiation from bomb tests would be expected to be in New Mexico where the testing was done. Actually no it isn't. US_fallout_exposure.png (615 × 432 pixels, file size: 119 KB, MIME type: image/png) Per capita thyroid doses in the continental United States of Iodine-131 resulting from all exposure routes from all atmospheric nuclear tests conducted at the Nevada Test Site. Source: Slightly modified (whitespace made transparent, converted to PNG) from Figure 1 in Study Estimating Thyroid Doses of I-131 Received by Americans From Nevada Atmospheric Nuclear Bomb Test, National Cancer Institute (1997) [1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_fallout_exposure.png Then they screwed up the map. The map shows natural background radiation highs in the areas that have nothing to do with bomb testing and little radiation in New Mexico where the dirtiest bombs were exploded at ground level before they knew what long term radiation effects surface testing could cause. The chances of fallout coinciding exactly with natural radiation from rock formations and not being concentrated at ground level blast areas is zero. Fallout follows weather patterns, not rock formations. http://rex.nci.nih.gov/massmedia/Fallout/contents.html You can go here and read the government report form which the wiki-page was derived. It is bit too technical for me, but goes into a good deal of detail and from what I can get from it matches up with picture I posted. |
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what nuclear testing was done in vermont????????????????
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what nuclear testing was done in vermont???????????????? None that I have ever heard of, but that is the path that weather patterns have carried the radiation. |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Wed 06/17/09 09:34 PM
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. that looks like the 2008 election map oooooppppsssssss It is a map of lingering radiation levels from all nuclear testing. REEEEEALLY....Where did you get that?? My kids and grandkids live in the upper right of that map in ok. What is this from and where did you get it? I want to read it too. NEVER MIND....I SAW IT. Kat |
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The problem with N Korea.....is THEY MIGHT!! It is a very real fear. This leader is mad. Mad I tell you. He doesnt care for life...anyones....after all..he has nothing to lose. He is about to die anyway. This thing in Korea is a big deal to our military. They are afraid of what this could mean. They have of course been doing tests underground, and they have the tremors to prove it. Earthquakes after also. I wonder what this is doing to the ground, the vegitation and water ways from there and around the world? Kat Has any country, including the US ever given a damn what happens to the vegitation, water etc, when it comes to testing this stuff? Look what happened here in the us a while back. Hell they subjected their own people to this crap... The leader of NK is a wack job, and is so crazy I think he would rather blow up his own country that see it run by anyone else. that looks like the 2008 election map oooooppppsssssss It is a map of lingering radiation levels from all nuclear testing. REEEEEALLY....Where did you get that?? My kids and grandkids live in the upper right of that map in ok. What is this from and where did you get it? I want to read it too. NEVER MIND....I SAW IT. Kat The government report can be read here http://rex.nci.nih.gov/massmedia/Fallout/contents.html This site appears to talk about it in easier to understand language http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Nevada-Test-Site |
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As I posted earlier, I am playing the old card... so can someone please explain to me what's going on with North Korea? I truly haven't been following this and am sooo lost!!! read in paper: MOSCOW – Russia and China expressed serious concern Wednesday about tension on the Korean peninsula and, in the face of North Korea's rhetoric, joined international pressure for it to return to nuclear talks. The U.S. vowed it would never accept North Korea as an atomic weapons state and, at a board meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, urged the country to negotiate with the world's great powers instead of making threats. Only hours earlier, North Korea warned the United States and its allies of a "thousand-fold" military retaliation if provoked. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_koreas_nuclear Im getting in my underground bunker and locking the door right now
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