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so I'm slapping who in the face??? I never even said Ron Paul was perfect....IMO he is the better of the politicians So his idea to remove the 16th amendment makes him imperfect or something else? don't read into what I said. I didn't say that at all!!! you said there wasn't any laws for it....I showed there were (and it gave the laws) then you said there weren't many states to ratify the 16th amendment that quiet posted....I gave a list. then you make those claims about me? it IS in the constitution (like it or not) and ratified by a majority of the states.....so I'm not going against the constitution. I do see good uses for the taxes...sorry if you don't like it...but I don't like how the taxes have been abused |
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then you make those claims about me? it IS in the constitution (like it or not) and ratified by a majority of the states.....so I'm not going against the constitution. I do see good uses for the taxes...sorry if you don't like it...but I don't like how the taxes have been abused hmmmmm....I'm not making claims about you hon..and you know amendments can be changed by legislation and no, sorry I don't see good use of taxes lately. 
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not lately....because they have been abused. and of course they can be changed...but my point was there are laws and can be looked up.
take the borders....should only the border states pay for border control when it benefits the entire country? what about disabled vets???? they worked for the country not one state |
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Hon, we pay taxes on everything. We pay taxes every time we buy something, we pay taxes when we pay our bills, we pay taxes on the house we live in, we pay taxes when we offer or receive services.
The amount of tax required to run the country should be equal to the size of the government and its expenditures. That's not the case today. We pay a lot more taxes , including the fed-inc-tax, because the past government overspent itself on wars. Your concern about the military vets is valid, but think about it. If there wouldn't be these wars, there would be much less military vets who didn't get injured and so on. The great deception is, that somehow many think, that the government just not receiving enough money from the people through taxing. It is true, because the government overspends itself and proposes more or higher taxes trying to keep up, instead of cut back spending. That's the whole idea of conservatism, which means smaller government, no useless wars, no spending money on useless stuff. You bring up the border control. Even though with all the taxes we pay, the borders are terrible at best..while there is more money spent in building government projects in Iraq and Afghanistan and first spending money to bomb the hell out of the countries and now spend a lot of money rebuilding the country. At the end of the day, the whip snaps on the taxpayers back. So that's why I said "no". I don't agree how the taxes are spent. take a look at this http://costofwar.com/ |
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did you not read that i mentioned abuse?
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tbere are lots of people sitting in prison that tried to use that defense that may be..........but if we all did it, not pay the federal.......what could they do? NOTHING.........hell, if 12 mill. illegals can roam around this country, murder, rape, rob, steal, take advantage of our medical system, not pay taxes, distribute drugs, squat anywhere they feel, and still be free to roam in this country and trample our constitution, then why the hell are we paying taxes in the first place? VERY SORE TOPIC WITH ME................   
Considering that not all illegals fall into those catagories I guess not all fall into the shouldn't pay income tax catagory. Let go of your hatred dude, it is healthier for ya, really. 
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I'm not talking about our tax dollars going for things like blueberries in GA, sidewalks in TX, etc....those SHOULD be a state issue. I'm talking about what benefits the country as a whole
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...and you people wouldn't even support getting rid of it, would you now? Actually no I wouldn't. I do believe it's the best way to pay for our government. Now that doesn't mean I think our tax money should be wasted the way it is and it doesn't mean I Don't think way pay far too much, but no I wouldn't support doing away with the income tax system for supporting our government. |
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...and you people wouldn't even support getting rid of it, would you now? Actually no I wouldn't. I do believe it's the best way to pay for our government. Now that doesn't mean I think our tax money should be wasted the way it is and it doesn't mean I Don't think way pay far too much, but no I wouldn't support doing away with the income tax system for supporting our government. didn't I say that???  
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...and you people wouldn't even support getting rid of it, would you now? Actually no I wouldn't. I do believe it's the best way to pay for our government. Now that doesn't mean I think our tax money should be wasted the way it is and it doesn't mean I Don't think way pay far too much, but no I wouldn't support doing away with the income tax system for supporting our government. didn't I say that???
Yes you did, but Atlantis did not seem to get it so I'm posting my opinion and support of yours. |
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Very interesting
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There is no law says that you should pay to the IRS. There isn't, zippo, nada... Listen to ex-IRS employees and others about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWgakZK1QVM Why even have this? Especially now? They are ruining the country even more, looting the pockets of the taxpayers. I agree with local taxes to be paid, also agree with taxes on all merchandise and service, but I don't agree having a Federal Income Tax. read your bank account agreement upon signing said agreement you agree to all terms as stated by the irs so if you have a bank account then you are required to fulfill the requirements of the irs |
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income tax myths The most basic myth of tax protestors is that there is simply no law mandating the payment of income taxes. Frequently one can observe anti-tax types to say something like, “if only someone would show me the law that says that I have to file a tax return and pay taxes, I’d be happy to do it.” I have a strong suspicion that people who say that are not serious, but I’m going to take them at their word. Here are the laws that (a) impose an income tax on you, (b) require you to file an income tax return, and (c) require you to pay taxes: The federal tax laws are contained in the Internal Revenue Code, also known as Title 26 of the United States Code, which is the compilation of laws passed by the Congress (“Title” basically means “Volume” when applied to the U.S. Code as a whole, so Title 26 is what might more casually be called Volume 26). The Internal Revenue Code is the law that requires people to pay taxes (and yes, the Internal Revenue Code is the law -- for more detail on this point click here). The most important statutory provision with regard to income taxes is section one of the tax code, 26 U.S.C. § 1. This is the section that actually imposes the income tax. It’s very simply written. If you are unmarried, the relevant provision is § 1(c), which states: ********************************************************************* more at http://docs.law.gwu.edu/facweb/jsiegel/Personal/taxes/JustNoLaw.htm ...the phrase "income tax myth" levied (pun-pun) against tax opponents of the Federal Income Tax is a characterization that implies protestations ungrounded,unfounded,discredulous and steeped in disintegrity. Your facts on Title 26 are citable. BUT YOUR INTERPRETATION and APPLICATION of the Statutes and more detailed Regulations is at best Inductive Reasoning and at worst Unconstitutional. There are contextual limitations to Title 26,none of which you cite making your application of Title 26 INDUCTIVE. If there was ever a paradox,your being RIGHT and simultaneously WRONG is epitomic. You have to remember that there is a strict legal hierarchy which Title 26 MUST adhere to...that is, Title 26 no matter how apotheosized by Congress it may be.IF and principally IF ANY PART of Title 26 possesses NO CONSTITUTIONAL PEDIGREE...then it is as legal as cannibalism. Therefore what you have been able to do is cite out of context the Statutes and Regulations of Title 26,which correctly ONLY APPLY PRIMARILY AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY TO "CORPORATIONS" ENGAGED IN INTERNATIONAL TRADE...“not citizens' wages earned domestically”... I REPEAT ... “not citizens' wages earned domestically” ... FOR THE BENEFIT OF EMPHASIS ... “not citizens' wages earned domestically”. The wages of citizens which “DO” qualify for taxes are the wages of American citizens who live in foreign countries earning wages from a foreign corporation....American citizens living in the U.S. and earning wages from a foreign corporation... foreign citizens living in the U.S. earning wages from a foreign or American corporation... and lastly American citizens LIVING IN U.S.A. POSSESSIONS WHO EARNS "MOST" OF THEIR WAGES DOING BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THOSE U.S. POSSESSIONS(meaning American citizens in Guam etc... etc. who get most of their earnings doing business in U.S. States,not Possessions). So the "myth" has been legitimized by at least lay heuristics a.k.a. "tax protesters" and without question Constitutional dialectics. |
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income tax myths The most basic myth of tax protestors is that there is simply no law mandating the payment of income taxes. Frequently one can observe anti-tax types to say something like, “if only someone would show me the law that says that I have to file a tax return and pay taxes, I’d be happy to do it.” I have a strong suspicion that people who say that are not serious, but I’m going to take them at their word. Here are the laws that (a) impose an income tax on you, (b) require you to file an income tax return, and (c) require you to pay taxes: The federal tax laws are contained in the Internal Revenue Code, also known as Title 26 of the United States Code, which is the compilation of laws passed by the Congress (“Title” basically means “Volume” when applied to the U.S. Code as a whole, so Title 26 is what might more casually be called Volume 26). The Internal Revenue Code is the law that requires people to pay taxes (and yes, the Internal Revenue Code is the law -- for more detail on this point click here). The most important statutory provision with regard to income taxes is section one of the tax code, 26 U.S.C. § 1. This is the section that actually imposes the income tax. It’s very simply written. If you are unmarried, the relevant provision is § 1(c), which states: ********************************************************************* more at http://docs.law.gwu.edu/facweb/jsiegel/Personal/taxes/JustNoLaw.htm ...the phrase "income tax myth" levied (pun-pun) against tax opponents of the Federal Income Tax is a characterization that implies protestations ungrounded,unfounded,discredulous and steeped in disintegrity. Your facts on Title 26 are citable. BUT YOUR INTERPRETATION and APPLICATION of the Statutes and more detailed Regulations is at best Inductive Reasoning and at worst Unconstitutional. There are contextual limitations to Title 26,none of which you cite making your application of Title 26 INDUCTIVE. If there was ever a paradox,your being RIGHT and simultaneously WRONG is epitomic. You have to remember that there is a strict legal hierarchy which Title 26 MUST adhere to...that is, Title 26 no matter how apotheosized by Congress it may be.IF and principally IF ANY PART of Title 26 possesses NO CONSTITUTIONAL PEDIGREE...then it is as legal as cannibalism. Therefore what you have been able to do is cite out of context the Statutes and Regulations of Title 26,which correctly ONLY APPLY PRIMARILY AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY TO "CORPORATIONS" ENGAGED IN INTERNATIONAL TRADE...“not citizens' wages earned domestically”... I REPEAT ... “not citizens' wages earned domestically” ... FOR THE BENEFIT OF EMPHASIS ... “not citizens' wages earned domestically”. The wages of citizens which “DO” qualify for taxes are the wages of American citizens who live in foreign countries earning wages from a foreign corporation....American citizens living in the U.S. and earning wages from a foreign corporation... foreign citizens living in the U.S. earning wages from a foreign or American corporation... and lastly American citizens LIVING IN U.S.A. POSSESSIONS WHO EARNS "MOST" OF THEIR WAGES DOING BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THOSE U.S. POSSESSIONS(meaning American citizens in Guam etc... etc. who get most of their earnings doing business in U.S. States,not Possessions). So the "myth" has been legitimized by at least lay heuristics a.k.a. "tax protesters" and without question Constitutional dialectics. interesting,very interesting |
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