Christianity believes in aliens. Their are a lot of "non human intelligent sentient life forms" talked about in the Bible.

Devils and demons, angels of the Lord, fallen angels, Elohim, snake people etc.

You are thinking (and reasoning) about these things from a human view point. What they want is the Earth. How they operate on the earth is via earth's own resources and currency. They prefer a peaceful take over.

This is what I have heard and read about.

The earth itself is said to actually have an 'owner." That owner wants to take peaceful possession of it rather than destroy it and or all of its inhabitants. The Draconian's, (unlike the Sirians) think it is more 'humane.' The Sirians would have just invaded earth, slaughtered everyone and taken everything they wanted.

Galaxy 'travel' in actual space ships is not accomplished in the way that you would think.... (clunking along through space at a certain speed.) It is done by bending space.. like worm holes or 'worp' drive. It is not without its problems and accidents do happen in re-entry.

"Energy" is the primary resource in all of the universe. It comes in many forms. There is technology here that we don't even know about and would not even understand. A lot of our own technology was given to us by them. One of the reasons gold is such a stable currency is that it is used in their technology and for their survival on their ships etc. It never loses its value because of this.

Slaves: Well that would be us. Each person has value. That is the reason for keeping track of people: Birth certificates, social security numbers etc. When this country needs money, it is not gold that is used for collateral, (we don't have any) it is people. The national debt means ... somebody owns us.

There are other kinds of slaves too. People disappear every day.

The things I mentioned (Drugs, weapons, oil, gold, slaves, land, etc.) are the TRUE CURRENCY here on earth.

Federal reserve notes are worthless I.O.U's. Paper is all they are. Credit is only numbers. It (digital currency) has no 'actual' value. A disruption in the electronic systems and your bank account can be wiped out.

If you don't deal in REAL CURRENCY in the end, when the monetary system fails, the ones with the real currency will be the wealthy ones and the ones with cash and digital money will be broke.

Guns (weapons) always have value in a world of war. They are better than money in the bank just for that reason.

Gold and land also. Better than I.O.U's (Federal reserve notes)

Human resourses = slaves. If you have people at your disposal to do actual work on things... that is a valuable resource.

And oil is used for everything. Plastics, cars, suntan lotion etc.

Again I say, its all ABOUT BUSINESS.

Ummm..... Scientologists don't worship aliens. Not sure where you got that idea (a South Park episode maybe?), but it is utterly and completely false.

Yes, I've often hear that he was pretty short.

The real currency isn't drugs, guns, and cubicle slaves but rather everything we exchange currency for be it the contents of Walmart, untrained labor, or a spin on an MRI machine. It's Yachts and unicycles and modern or ancient pieces of art.

So what rank are you?

Well in Scientology we are aliens. Well, not the true "us" but most of who we are, basically all the bad parts, is alien and the point is to become free from those influences.

A more accurate statement would be that the point is to become free of the “bad parts”, not the influences. If an influence does not cause a “bad part”, then there is no reason to become free of it.

If one simply eradicated the influence, there would still be the possibility that some other influence could cause the same bad part.

But if one attains a state where no influence can cause the bad part, then there is no possibility of that bad part manifesting ever again.

And that, as I see it, is the ultimate purpose – basically to attain a state where external factors are not able to cause “bad parts”.

So really, whether the influences are a race of reptilians from a billion light years away, or next-door neighbors, is all but irrelevant. It’s the “bad parts” that are the target, not the “influences”.

I’m not any “rank” that I know of. I’m taller than Tom Cruise if that’s what you’re asking.

What “rank” are you?

A more accurate statement would be that the point is to become free of the “bad parts”, not the influences. If an influence does not cause a “bad part”, then there is no reason to become free of it.

If one simply eradicated the influence, there would still be the possibility that some other influence could cause the same bad part.

But if one attains a state where no influence can cause the bad part, then there is no possibility of that bad part manifesting ever again.

And that, as I see it, is the ultimate purpose – basically to attain a state where external factors are not able to cause “bad parts”.

So really, whether the influences are a race of reptilians from a billion light years away, or next-door neighbors, is all but irrelevant. It’s the “bad parts” that are the target, not the “influences”.

Let me see if I understand this. Would an example of a "bad part" be a bad temper? So that, even if I take away all the things that piss me off, I would still have a bad temper. And, I would be at risk of having that flare up again when another influence comes along, so I have to get rid of the bad temper and not what sets me off. Is that it?

Let me see if I understand this. Would an example of a "bad part" be a bad temper? So that, even if I take away all the things that piss me off, I would still have a bad temper. And, I would be at risk of having that flare up again when another influence comes along, so I have to get rid of the bad temper and not what sets me off. Is that it?

So money is only worth whatever we value it like how water is only worth whatever we value it.

… you need to not just string together all the ideas other people have been saying forever.

Ok, what courses do you take or what tone are you?

Are you not involved with Scientology?

You seemed to object to me saying that the goal was to become free of those influences but then there was that "a state where no influence can cause the bad part" line. That's what I thought I meant.

Now with that clarification in mind, I'd say you came up with a perfect example.

Yes EVERYTHING down to hog bellies is 'real currency." I mentioned drugs, guns, gold, etc simply because it is the most convenient kind of things to exchange. You don't have to look very far to find a buyer. On the other hand, some products may have specialized buyers and you have to know who they are.

Paper money is convenient and everyone will accept it, that is what makes it worth something. But if it ever becomes worthless, it would be better to have guns or gold or drugs to trade than something that not very many people need.

A thing is worth more if you can trade it easily. If no one wants your paper money, it become worthless. In the reverse, it becomes worthless if no one wants it, and would rather keep their goods than have your paper money.

If you are in the desert with a rich man and he has a million dollars and you have a barrel of water, and your life depends on that water, I doubt seriously if you will sell it to him.

That's what I mean by currency and business.

Business is, at its bare bones all about survival. The humans and the aliens on this planet fight for survival of themselves and their families.

The Navajo creation story involves three underworlds where important events happened to shape the Fourth World where we now live.

The Navajo (pronounced Na'-va-ho) were given the name Ni’hookaa Diyan Diné by their creators. It means "Holy Earth People" or "Lords of the Earth". Navajos today simply call themselves "Diné" meaning "The People". The Tewa Indians were the first to call them "Navahú", which means "the large area of cultivated land" because of their dominance over the Tewa domain. The Mexicans knew them as "Apaches Du Nabahú" (Apaches of the Cultivated Fields), where the word "Apache", meaning "Enemy", was picked up from the Zuni Indian language. The "Apaches Du Nabahú" were known as a special group somewhat distinct from the rest of the Apaches because of their beautiful and unique rugs and jewelry. Fray (Spaniard Priest or Monk of the 17th Century) Alonso de Benavides changed the name to "Navaho" in a book written in 1630. The American word for the Diné officially used was "Navaho" from the early 1900s until the early 1960s and then slowly changed to "Navajo". The Navajo Nation some time between 1968 to 1970 officially used "Diné" instead of "Navajo" in referring to themselves.

According to the Diné, they emerged from three previous underworlds into this, the Fourth, or "Glittering World", through a magic reed. The first people from the other three worlds were not like the people of today. They were animals, insects or masked spirits as depicted in Navajo ceremonies. First Man ('Altsé Hastiin), and First Woman ('Altsé 'Asdzáá), were two of the beings from the First or Black World. First Man was made in the East from the meeting of the White and Black Clouds. First Woman was made in the West from the joining of the Yellow and Blue Clouds. Spider Woman (Na ashje’ii 'Asdzáá), who taught Navajo women how to weave, was also from the First World.

Once in the Glittering World, the first thing the people did was build a sweat house and sing the Blessing Song. Then they met in the first house ("hogan" in English, "hooghan" in Diné) made exactly as Talking God (Haashch’eelti’i) had prescribed. In this hooghan, the people began to arrange their world, naming the four sacred mountains surrounding the land and designating the four sacred stones that would become the boundaries of their homeland. In actuality, these mountains do not contain the symbolic sacred stones. The San Francisco Peaks (Dook’o’oslííd) represents the Abalone and Coral stones. It is located just north of Flagstaff and is the Navajo’s religious western boundary. Mt. Blanco (Tsisnaasjini') in Colorado represents the White Shell stone, and represents the Navajo’s religious eastern boundary. Mt. Taylor (Tsoodzil) east of Grants, New Mexico, represents the Turquoise stone, and represents the Navajo’s religious southern boundary. Mt. Hesperus (Dibé Nitsaa) in Colorado represents the Black Jet stone, and represents the Navajo’s religious northern boundary. Pictures of these sacred mountains can be found by going to http://www.lapahie.com/Sacred_Mts.cfm.

After setting the mountains down where they should go, the Navajo deities, or "Holy People", put the sun and the moon into the sky and were in the process of carefully placing the stars in an orderly way. But the Coyote, known as the trickster, grew impatient from the long deliberations being held, and seized the corner of the blanket where it lay and flung the remaining stars into the sky.

The Holy People continued to make the necessities of life, like clouds, trees and rain. Everything was as it should be when the evil monsters appeared (reptile aliens?) and began to kill the new Earth People. But a miracle happened to save them by the birth of Ever Changing Woman (Asdzaa Nadleehe) at Gobernador Knob (Ch’óol’í’í), New Mexico.

Changing Woman grew up around El Huerfano Mesa ("Dzil Na’oodilii" in Diné) in northern New Mexico. She married the Sun and bore two son, twins, and heroes to the Navajo people. They were known as "Monster Slayer" and "Child-Born-of-Water". The twins traveled to their father the Sun who gave them weapons of lighting bolts to fight the dreaded monsters. Every place the Hero Twins killed a monster it turned to stone. An example of this is the lave flows near Mt. Taylor in New Mexico, believed to be the blood from the death of Ye’iitsoh, or the "Monster who Sucked in People". All of the angular rock formations on the reservation, such as the immense Black Mesa (Dzil Yíjiin) are seen as the turned-to-stone bodies of the monsters.

With all of the monsters dead, the Navajo deities or "Holy People", turned their attention to the making of the four original clans. Kiiyaa aanii or Tall House People, was the first clan. They were made of yellow and white corn. Eventually other clans traveled to the area round the San Juan River, bring their important contributions to the tribe. Some were Paiutes who brought their beautiful baskets. Others were Pueblos who shared their farming and weaving skills. Still others were Utes and Apaches.

For her husband, the "Sun", to visit her every evening, Changing Woman went to live in the western sea on an island made of rock crystal. Her home was made of the four sacred stones: Abalone, White Shell, Turquoise, and Black Jet. During the day she became lonely and decided to make her own people. She made four clans from the flakes of her skin. These were known as the Near Water People, Mud People, Salt Water People, and Bitter Water People. When these newly formed clans heard that there were humans to the east who shared their heritage, they wanted to go meet them.

Changing Woman gave her permission for them to travel from the western sea to the San Francisco Peaks. They then traveled through the Hopi mesas where they left porcupine, still commonly found there today. Then they traveled toward the Chuska Mountains and on to Mt. Taylor. Finally, the people arrived at Dinetah, the Diné traditional homeland, and joined the other clans already living there. Dinetah is located in the many canyons that drain the San Juan River about 30 miles east of Farmington, New Mexico.

A more accurate statement would be that the point is to become free of the “bad parts”, not the influences. If an influence does not cause a “bad part”, then there is no reason to become free of it.

If one simply eradicated the influence, there would still be the possibility that some other influence could cause the same bad part.

But if one attains a state where no influence can cause the bad part, then there is no possibility of that bad part manifesting ever again.

And that, as I see it, is the ultimate purpose – basically to attain a state where external factors are not able to cause “bad parts”.

So really, whether the influences are a race of reptilians from a billion light years away, or next-door neighbors, is all but irrelevant. It’s the “bad parts” that are the target, not the “influences”.