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all i know is that iguanas that cross the border from mexico are real illegal reptilian aliens.  For someone who has no beliefs you certainly have a lot to say.  
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all i know is that iguanas that cross the border from mexico are real illegal reptilian aliens. For someone who has no beliefs you certainly have a lot to say. beileving nothing means i should say nothing? rare to read something so absurd on an open forum where saying what you think is the entire point of being here. |
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beileving nothing means i should say nothing? rare to read something so absurd on an open forum where saying what you think is the entire point of being here. So, that's the point of being here! I'm glad someone finally told me. 
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I smell love in the air
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I smell love in the air That's because I  you!
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I smell love in the air That's because I you! 
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Edited by
jrbogie
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beileving nothing means i should say nothing? rare to read something so absurd on an open forum where saying what you think is the entire point of being here. So, that's the point of being here! I'm glad someone finally told me. and some people even have a scroll wheel on their mouse thingy. useful for scrolling past what you'd just as soon not read. |
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If you're ok with the idea of intelligent extraterrestrials you probably don't have problems with evolution. That said alien life shouldn't be so... Earthy. Just about every alien we think up (or actually meet?) is either human but more like a lizard or otherwise mixed with some other entity we've got in our heads or it's just flat out some other species with a few changes. We've got the arm and leg bones we do because of how fish are put together but the same bones have stuck around for all of the reptiles, mammals, and birds with just changes in shape. Why should so many aliens have what are clearly the same sorts of legs? And if they came from a planet that was not very similar to Earth that form might not even make sense. Worse though is how many of them walk on flat feet from toe to heel. Even most life on Earth doesn't do that; things walk and run on their toes. Just look at a cat some time. But hey, maybe two joints in a leg really works best for everything between the size of mouse and elephant. Well then breathing is something where other life forms have no excuse. With fish the gills are pretty much where our vocal cords are and the whole breathing air thing basically started as swallowing some of your oxygen source. There are clearly other ways to do it as insects pretty much just absorb their air through their skin and I'm sure you learned about how big those were when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth. To fuel anything that uses oxygen as fast as we do you'd need more surface area than that though so lungs do make sense but there's no reason the air intake should always be so linked with the food intake. Of course, I haven't done autopsies on any of these so they might breathe through their anus but it's a bit far fetched to think that so many would have a nose right on their face without there being internal bellows to drive the air through it. And fish? They've got a face like that because they evolved from worm type creatures rather than something like jellyfish. The whole facing forward thing probably does make for a more adaptable body plan most of the time but there should be environments that favor something else. *this is also the abridged version. The earlier forms of this rant went into a lot of other body plan features.  Yes, I believe in darwinian evolution. I think there is a ver high possibilty that there are human beings, like you and me, that have evolved on other worlds (other "Earths") If nothing else look at all of those species of ape-men that just dead ended after a few thousands of years. There were dozens of them and yet only the one even figured out agriculture much less space travel. |
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If you're ok with the idea of intelligent extraterrestrials you probably don't have problems with evolution. That said alien life shouldn't be so... Earthy. Just about every alien we think up (or actually meet?) is either human but more like a lizard or otherwise mixed with some other entity we've got in our heads or it's just flat out some other species with a few changes. We've got the arm and leg bones we do because of how fish are put together but the same bones have stuck around for all of the reptiles, mammals, and birds with just changes in shape. Why should so many aliens have what are clearly the same sorts of legs? And if they came from a planet that was not very similar to Earth that form might not even make sense. Worse though is how many of them walk on flat feet from toe to heel. Even most life on Earth doesn't do that; things walk and run on their toes. Just look at a cat some time. But hey, maybe two joints in a leg really works best for everything between the size of mouse and elephant. Well then breathing is something where other life forms have no excuse. With fish the gills are pretty much where our vocal cords are and the whole breathing air thing basically started as swallowing some of your oxygen source. There are clearly other ways to do it as insects pretty much just absorb their air through their skin and I'm sure you learned about how big those were when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth. To fuel anything that uses oxygen as fast as we do you'd need more surface area than that though so lungs do make sense but there's no reason the air intake should always be so linked with the food intake. Of course, I haven't done autopsies on any of these so they might breathe through their anus but it's a bit far fetched to think that so many would have a nose right on their face without there being internal bellows to drive the air through it. And fish? They've got a face like that because they evolved from worm type creatures rather than something like jellyfish. The whole facing forward thing probably does make for a more adaptable body plan most of the time but there should be environments that favor something else. *this is also the abridged version. The earlier forms of this rant went into a lot of other body plan features. Yes, I believe in darwinian evolution. I think there is a ver high possibilty that there are human beings, like you and me, that have evolved on other worlds (other "Earths") If nothing else look at all of those species of ape-men that just dead ended after a few thousands of years. There were dozens of them and yet only the one even figured out agriculture much less space travel.  yes,but perhaps that is the way it always is. The members of the species best adapted to survive are the ones that are going to propagate. And on a planet with closely the same composition and age as the Earth then perhaps there are humans like you and I. After all,we KNOW that humans are possible.......
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If you're ok with the idea of intelligent extraterrestrials you probably don't have problems with evolution. That said alien life shouldn't be so... Earthy. Just about every alien we think up (or actually meet?) is either human but more like a lizard or otherwise mixed with some other entity we've got in our heads or it's just flat out some other species with a few changes. We've got the arm and leg bones we do because of how fish are put together but the same bones have stuck around for all of the reptiles, mammals, and birds with just changes in shape. Why should so many aliens have what are clearly the same sorts of legs? And if they came from a planet that was not very similar to Earth that form might not even make sense. Worse though is how many of them walk on flat feet from toe to heel. Even most life on Earth doesn't do that; things walk and run on their toes. Just look at a cat some time. But hey, maybe two joints in a leg really works best for everything between the size of mouse and elephant. Well then breathing is something where other life forms have no excuse. With fish the gills are pretty much where our vocal cords are and the whole breathing air thing basically started as swallowing some of your oxygen source. There are clearly other ways to do it as insects pretty much just absorb their air through their skin and I'm sure you learned about how big those were when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth. To fuel anything that uses oxygen as fast as we do you'd need more surface area than that though so lungs do make sense but there's no reason the air intake should always be so linked with the food intake. Of course, I haven't done autopsies on any of these so they might breathe through their anus but it's a bit far fetched to think that so many would have a nose right on their face without there being internal bellows to drive the air through it. And fish? They've got a face like that because they evolved from worm type creatures rather than something like jellyfish. The whole facing forward thing probably does make for a more adaptable body plan most of the time but there should be environments that favor something else. *this is also the abridged version. The earlier forms of this rant went into a lot of other body plan features. Yes, I believe in darwinian evolution. I think there is a ver high possibilty that there are human beings, like you and me, that have evolved on other worlds (other "Earths") If nothing else look at all of those species of ape-men that just dead ended after a few thousands of years. There were dozens of them and yet only the one even figured out agriculture much less space travel. yes,but perhaps that is the way it always is. The members of the species best adapted to survive are the ones that are going to propagate. And on a planet with closely the same composition and age as the Earth then perhaps there are humans like you and I. After all,we KNOW that humans are possible....... The first post in these quotes explained why that shouldn't be the case. They'd have to have had the same worms grow into the same fish whos bones grew into the same legs and so on. If it was so similar they'd have had the same dinosaur age and do you really expect them to get hit by the same space rock so the same little class of mammals could take the place of dinosaurs as the main family of large life? Well no, that's why people imagine them looking like some other animal progressing to a generally human shape but expecting a planet to have life so identical up to whichever point that other species gets onto the planet but then just have some insane change so it develops into a humanoid is preposterous. Walking upright is only important for a four legged animal. Something shaped like a scorpion would only need hands instead of claws to get the same benefit. Something shaped like a praying mantis would work great as well. We know those shapes work But if, like I mentioned, jellyfish took over instead of fish you'd have yet another total shift in forms. You should have things that didn't use hands but rather many tiny legs like lobsters have hidden under their tails and on and on. But I'm still just using Earth examples. Another planet would still need life to be identical to Earth for billions of years to spit out the same ocean life as jellyfish and worms. |
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I believe all 'humans' have some alien blood. That is to say "royal" blood. When you hear that someone 'is royalty' then you know they have more alien bloodlines than most people. The reason the royalty only marry other royalty is to increase the strength of that alien blood over the centuries. Once it gets to a certain point, (this according to David Icke) the off spring of all of this inner breeding of royal (alien) blood will produce humans/alien beings who can shape shift from one form to another. Is shape shifting possible? I am not so sure it is impossible. Given my premise of this being a thought produced holographic reality, I would say that it is very possible. I once met a shape shifter who could change her appearance just by thinking about it. I thought I was imagining things when she changed from Caucasian to oriental right before my eyes. The shape shifting royalty look human until they change, according to David Icke and others who have seen them do this. Princess Diana was quoted as saying to her friend: "They aren't human." I don't know how true that is. Its just something I read. The problem with any of this information on the Internet, is you don't really know what to believe, you just have to use your intuition and decide what might be true and what is not. I tried to ignore all references to aliens and reptilians in my search for the truth of things but EVERYTHING lead to this information no matter what I was looking at, no matter what culture. Yes, I believe they exist and are real. Still I have never seen one myself in person. ... that I know of. Also there is a side of my psyche that says its all fantasy. But I don't pay any attention to that side because the information is overwhelming in favor of ..yes they exist. So I learn everything I can about them... information I may need one day. |
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Well ya, we're not very creative so we always mentally warp humans to make the same kinds of aliens. There should at least be some other form that works for advanced civilization besides humanoid but the most anyone every imagines along those lines is some Earth creature directly scaled up.
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Well ya, we're not very creative so we always mentally warp humans to make the same kinds of aliens. There should at least be some other form that works for advanced civilization besides humanoid but the most anyone every imagines along those lines is some Earth creature directly scaled up. I am not sure I understand the point you are making. BTW welcome to Mingle |
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Edited by
Shoku
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Bacteria start breathing oxygen and diversify into some new life forms on account of having more energy to do so. Jellyfish and worms are the two I've brought up. Worms start taking in calcium from the water and forming bone type structures and diversify some more. Insects, shellfish, and fish are some of the groups that come from this. Fish start to breath air by swallowing it and eventually develop lungs and then convert some of their fins into legs. Amphibians, reptiles and mammals show up around this time.
So for humans it went worm to fish to mammal and then apes and the society thing put us just about where we are now. Many of the reasons things like worms diversified into many forms of life while jellyfish didn't are big catastrophes that suddenly changed the ecosystem. These catastrophes are things like space rocks hitting the planet and killing most living things with just random survivors left. There is not a good reason life, even on a planet almost exactly like Earth, should again go worm to fish to mammal even half of the time. We have the general shape we do because of those earlier steps, not because it is somehow a special shape to have. Being able to hold tools might be very important for starting civilization but I have pointed out other shapes that could hold tools. We should see as many of those shaped aliens as the ones that are human shaped and we should see even more that are unlike any shape I have brought up. Now, if you were to argue that the aliens we see are usually traveling from some parallel dimension so they aren't just from a planet like Earth but from Earth itself that might be a decent reason for them to be humanoids with reptilian features or whatever because the closer worlds should be more similar to our own but if they are journeying from other stars we should see many kinds of aliens people never see. But thanks for the welcome. I've had a profile for awhile but didn't realize that the community link meant forums. |
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super sekret alienz lol
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Fri 10/02/09 01:25 PM
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If you're ok with the idea of intelligent extraterrestrials you probably don't have problems with evolution. That said alien life shouldn't be so... Earthy. Just about every alien we think up (or actually meet?) is either human but more like a lizard or otherwise mixed with some other entity we've got in our heads or it's just flat out some other species with a few changes. We've got the arm and leg bones we do because of how fish are put together but the same bones have stuck around for all of the reptiles, mammals, and birds with just changes in shape. Why should so many aliens have what are clearly the same sorts of legs? And if they came from a planet that was not very similar to Earth that form might not even make sense. Worse though is how many of them walk on flat feet from toe to heel. Even most life on Earth doesn't do that; things walk and run on their toes. Just look at a cat some time. But hey, maybe two joints in a leg really works best for everything between the size of mouse and elephant. Well then breathing is something where other life forms have no excuse. With fish the gills are pretty much where our vocal cords are and the whole breathing air thing basically started as swallowing some of your oxygen source. There are clearly other ways to do it as insects pretty much just absorb their air through their skin and I'm sure you learned about how big those were when the dinosaurs roamed the Earth. To fuel anything that uses oxygen as fast as we do you'd need more surface area than that though so lungs do make sense but there's no reason the air intake should always be so linked with the food intake. Of course, I haven't done autopsies on any of these so they might breathe through their anus but it's a bit far fetched to think that so many would have a nose right on their face without there being internal bellows to drive the air through it. And fish? They've got a face like that because they evolved from worm type creatures rather than something like jellyfish. The whole facing forward thing probably does make for a more adaptable body plan most of the time but there should be environments that favor something else. *this is also the abridged version. The earlier forms of this rant went into a lot of other body plan features. Yes, I believe in darwinian evolution. I think there is a ver high possibilty that there are human beings, like you and me, that have evolved on other worlds (other "Earths") If nothing else look at all of those species of ape-men that just dead ended after a few thousands of years. There were dozens of them and yet only the one even figured out agriculture much less space travel. yes,but perhaps that is the way it always is. The members of the species best adapted to survive are the ones that are going to propagate. And on a planet with closely the same composition and age as the Earth then perhaps there are humans like you and I. After all,we KNOW that humans are possible....... The first post in these quotes explained why that shouldn't be the case. They'd have to have had the same worms grow into the same fish whos bones grew into the same legs and so on. If it was so similar they'd have had the same dinosaur age and do you really expect them to get hit by the same space rock so the same little class of mammals could take the place of dinosaurs as the main family of large life? Well no, that's why people imagine them looking like some other animal progressing to a generally human shape but expecting a planet to have life so identical up to whichever point that other species gets onto the planet but then just have some insane change so it develops into a humanoid is preposterous. Walking upright is only important for a four legged animal. Something shaped like a scorpion would only need hands instead of claws to get the same benefit. Something shaped like a praying mantis would work great as well. We know those shapes work But if, like I mentioned, jellyfish took over instead of fish you'd have yet another total shift in forms. You should have things that didn't use hands but rather many tiny legs like lobsters have hidden under their tails and on and on. But I'm still just using Earth examples. Another planet would still need life to be identical to Earth for billions of years to spit out the same ocean life as jellyfish and worms. Well,I am talking about parrallel evolution. The entire ecosystem of other Earth-like planets. Plants,animals and humans virtually indistinguishable from our planet's plants,animals,and humans. Of course, not every world would be the same. I am referring to earthlike planets. I am referring to other worlds following the same evolutionary course as Earth and yes it is scientifically possible and not prepostorous at all. It is scientifically possible here,therefore it is scientifically possible there. The laws of physics do not change from planet to planet. The universe operates via a standard set of laws.However, there are other types of intelligent evolved life as well.
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I believe all 'humans' have some alien blood. That is to say "royal" blood. When you hear that someone 'is royalty' then you know they have more alien bloodlines than most people. The reason the royalty only marry other royalty is to increase the strength of that alien blood over the centuries. Once it gets to a certain point, (this according to David Icke) the off spring of all of this inner breeding of royal (alien) blood will produce humans/alien beings who can shape shift from one form to another. Is shape shifting possible? I am not so sure it is impossible. Given my premise of this being a thought produced holographic reality, I would say that it is very possible. I once met a shape shifter who could change her appearance just by thinking about it. I thought I was imagining things when she changed from Caucasian to oriental right before my eyes. The shape shifting royalty look human until they change, according to David Icke and others who have seen them do this. Princess Diana was quoted as saying to her friend: "They aren't human." I don't know how true that is. Its just something I read. The problem with any of this information on the Internet, is you don't really know what to believe, you just have to use your intuition and decide what might be true and what is not. I tried to ignore all references to aliens and reptilians in my search for the truth of things but EVERYTHING lead to this information no matter what I was looking at, no matter what culture. Yes, I believe they exist and are real. Still I have never seen one myself in person. ... that I know of. Also there is a side of my psyche that says its all fantasy. But I don't pay any attention to that side because the information is overwhelming in favor of ..yes they exist. So I learn everything I can about them... information I may need one day.  You met a shapeshifter and witnessed it in action?
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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You met a shapeshifter and witnessed it in action? Yes. I was working in Las Vegas. A young man I became friends and he told me a story about a woman he had gone out with and he said he thought he was going crazy because he said that during the course of the night she changed, (shape shifted) into several different women. He said the face, the hair, the voice, all changed. He thought she had slipped him some kind of drug or something. The next night he came up to me at the place (a bar) I worked and told me that the woman was here in the bar. She was sitting at the bar. He wanted me to go check her out. I did. I just went and sat next to her and started a conversation. She did not seem surprised that a total stranger was striking up a conversation with her, but she asked me if I recognized her. Of that she seemed surprised because she probably did not recognize or remember meeting me. (because she had not.) I guess she thought she was in disguise. Anyway, I said yes, that I had seen her in here last night. She seemed happy with that, and we talked for a while, I don't remember about what, but the conversation turned to talking about oriental philosophy and as she talked, I watched her face change into an oriental looking face. Her hair grew darker, her eyes became slanted. The transition was gradual but quick. I thought I might be imagining it. I only wish I would have gotten to know her better. After that night, I did not see her again. I still think I may have imagined it. The guy who dated her, said that at the close of the evening she asked him, "Which one of us do you like the best?" |
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You met a shapeshifter and witnessed it in action? Yes. I was working in Las Vegas. A young man I became friends and he told me a story about a woman he had gone out with and he said he thought he was going crazy because he said that during the course of the night she changed, (shape shifted) into several different women. He said the face, the hair, the voice, all changed. He thought she had slipped him some kind of drug or something. The next night he came up to me at the place (a bar) I worked and told me that the woman was here in the bar. She was sitting at the bar. He wanted me to go check her out. I did. I just went and sat next to her and started a conversation. She did not seem surprised that a total stranger was striking up a conversation with her, but she asked me if I recognized her. Of that she seemed surprised because she probably did not recognize or remember meeting me. (because she had not.) I guess she thought she was in disguise. Anyway, I said yes, that I had seen her in here last night. She seemed happy with that, and we talked for a while, I don't remember about what, but the conversation turned to talking about oriental philosophy and as she talked, I watched her face change into an oriental looking face. Her hair grew darker, her eyes became slanted. The transition was gradual but quick. I thought I might be imagining it. I only wish I would have gotten to know her better. After that night, I did not see her again. I still think I may have imagined it. The guy who dated her, said that at the close of the evening she asked him, "Which one of us do you like the best?" That is so cool Jeanniebean. If I was that guy,I would have been a little scared to date someone like that.
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