Topic: 10 Senators who snagged the most Pork!
damnitscloudy's photo
Wed 05/20/09 10:56 PM
For all the crap about Mitch McConnell gets, he has served his state very well. Alot of his earmarks in the past helped Kentuckians drinker

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 07:48 AM


Your point is lost!


No, her point is not "lost". Your point is lost not realizing that it passed by the entire senate and it made of 56 dems and 41 republicans, clearly a dem-majority. So instead of arguing about in a dem-republican terms, you should be seeing that it doesn't matter what party the person belongs to, corruption is equal on both sides.


Wrong!
Its Pork not corruption. Wrong thread, and the Dems werent the ones speaking from both sides of their mouths!

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 07:50 AM


How old are you?

First it has to pass both the House and the Senate.
Then the President signs it.
If he vetos it. It goes back for another vote.
It then must recieve a two-thirds majority by both the House and the Senate.
If it does it becomes law without the President ever seeing it again.


you left out the inaction on the president can also cause it to pass


laugh laugh There was no inaction by the President!

Of course I would not expect you to comprehend any of that!

DaveyB's photo
Fri 05/22/09 09:40 AM

4 Democrats and 6 Republicans!

After all that noise made by the Republican Party!

What a bunch of hypocrites.


While I do agree with your end point I have to say that I'm surprised you used a topic that suggested this was about pork and then talked about earmarks.
One of the bad things to come from the last election is that it confused people about the two. Pork is nearly always an earmark but not all earmarks are necessarily pork. Every state wants to get federal money to help out and most everyone of them does. Some get a greater share than others and that's wrong but it is the deal. Frankly though if it wasn't for earmarks nothing would happen that's the way the system is designed... sad but true.


DaveyB's photo
Fri 05/22/09 09:47 AM

$1,791,000 Swine Odor and Manure Management Research, Ames, IA


Um as I recall you said you supported this one Fanta because of the swine flu problem. Personally I felt it totally off base as the study would have had no effect on what happened in Mexico. But you have to decide which earmarks you support and which one's you don't.laugh

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 09:51 AM


$1,791,000 Swine Odor and Manure Management Research, Ames, IA


Um as I recall you said you supported this one Fanta because of the swine flu problem. Personally I felt it totally off base as the study would have had no effect on what happened in Mexico. But you have to decide which earmarks you support and which one's you don't.laugh


There is nothing wrong with Pork! Our reps are supposed to take our interests to Wash.

Correct I did say that and I havent changed my mind.
What Im getting at here is the hypocrisy of the Rep Party!

DaveyB's photo
Fri 05/22/09 09:54 AM
Edited by DaveyB on Fri 05/22/09 09:58 AM



$1,791,000 Swine Odor and Manure Management Research, Ames, IA


Um as I recall you said you supported this one Fanta because of the swine flu problem. Personally I felt it totally off base as the study would have had no effect on what happened in Mexico. But you have to decide which earmarks you support and which one's you don't.laugh


There is nothing wrong with Pork! Our reps are supposed to take our interests to Wash.

Correct I did say that and I havent changed my mind.
What Im getting at here is the hypocrisy of the Rep Party!


They are politicians what do you expect. There's plenty of that go around with both the two major parties. It's like I said before no modern day president has gotten into office unless he said what he thought the people wanted to hear, has nothing to do with what he will actually do when he gets into office. The point is you implied that everything on the list is pork and the fact it it's not. And unless you list out how much pork each got you haven't proven a thing

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 10:01 AM
If its incorrect Davey its the Authors fault!
That is the title of the article.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/senator_earmarks/inouye.html?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=news

DaveyB's photo
Fri 05/22/09 10:07 AM

If its incorrect Davey its the Authors fault!
That is the title of the article.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/lists/senator_earmarks/inouye.html?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=news


I'm sure the figures are correct for earmarks but they are not correct if you are going to call them pork. You have to separate the two, again they are not the same thing. I did see a list earmarks anyalized to determine what was pork somewhere but I'm not sure where. I'll see if I can find it. I don't recall if either party showed a greater share than the other but personally I don't care I think both sides suck on that issue.

FTR, as far as the swine smell thing is concerned, I don't see how the rest of the country can benefit it is an internal thing for the state of Iowa and should be paid for by that state. So in my view it's still pork (no pun intended)

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 10:10 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 05/22/09 10:11 AM
The title of the article is just as its posted and only refers to the latest budget!

The one the Repubs beetched was filled with Pork!
Come to find out they had 6 of the top 10 Pork projects in the damn thing!

Hypocrites!

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 10:13 AM
Oh,
and didnt you see where the Swine Flu started?

The research on swine odor and manure management does benefit everyone.

DaveyB's photo
Fri 05/22/09 10:31 AM

The title of the article is just as its posted and only refers to the latest budget!

The one the Repubs beetched was filled with Pork!
Come to find out they had 6 of the top 10 Pork projects in the damn thing!

Hypocrites!


Then post that. Not meaning to say I don't trust you, but I don't know the source even to know if I trust it or not. Again I really don't care they are all hypocrites including Obama who said there would be no "earmarks" and not only are there earmarks there is pork.

DaveyB's photo
Fri 05/22/09 10:32 AM

The research on swine odor and manure management does benefit everyone.


I don't believe that. And unless you've got details about the study that show otherwise you can't convince me.

Winx's photo
Fri 05/22/09 02:51 PM

How old are you?

First it has to pass both the House and the Senate.
Then the President signs it.
If he vetos it. It goes back for another vote.
It then must recieve a two-thirds majority by both the House and the Senate.
If it does it becomes law without the President ever seeing it again.


How old are you?huh

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 05/22/09 03:05 PM
to become a law...the bill has to pass through the house and the senate, then to the president. the president can either veto it or sign it

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 06:11 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 05/22/09 06:16 PM


The research on swine odor and manure management does benefit everyone.


I don't believe that. And unless you've got details about the study that show otherwise you can't convince me.


You ignore what is in front of your face?

The proof is there look!

I posted the source twice!slaphead
Have you ever heard the saying look before you leap!laugh laugh laugh laugh

Its Pork!rofl rofl rofl

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 06:14 PM

to become a law...the bill has to pass through the house and the senate, then to the president. the president can either veto it or sign it


And if he vetos it it goes back to the house it originated in. If its passed by two thirds it never goes back to the President it just becomes law!

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 06:15 PM
Of course here you go off on another side track!

Why would the President Veto it? He got the bill passed by letting the Repubs add Pork!
There is Pork in every bill!

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 05/22/09 06:50 PM


to become a law...the bill has to pass through the house and the senate, then to the president. the president can either veto it or sign it


And if he vetos it it goes back to the house it originated in. If its passed by two thirds it never goes back to the President it just becomes law!

so....drum roll....as I was hinting at before...blame congress and the presidentslaphead

Fanta46's photo
Fri 05/22/09 06:54 PM



to become a law...the bill has to pass through the house and the senate, then to the president. the president can either veto it or sign it


And if he vetos it it goes back to the house it originated in. If its passed by two thirds it never goes back to the President it just becomes law!

so....drum roll....as I was hinting at before...blame congress and the presidentslaphead


Here Rose. This is so you can see who is responsible for them, and so Davey can see the difference between the two!