Topic: Sentencing delayed for Mo. woman in MySpace hoax
adj4u's photo
Tue 05/19/09 10:44 AM



adj...if it is an adult and the child is webcamming...it could be child porn...but there are cyberstalking and harassment laws.


but you can not force some one to do something over the internet

unless there is black male involved


or by coercion

The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. The crime of intentionally and unlawfully restraining another's freedom by threatening to commit a crime, accusing the victim of a crime, disclosing any secret that would seriously impair the victim's reputation in the community, or by performing or refusing to perform an official action lawfully requested by the victim, or by causing an official to do so.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/coercion


blackmail
Noun
1. the act of attempting to obtain money by threatening to reveal shameful information
2. the use of unfair pressure in an attempt to influence someone
Verb
1. to obtain or attempt to obtain money by intimidation
2. to attempt to influence (a person) by unfair pressure

sounds a lot like coercion

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 10:46 AM
coercion is broader

and it's no different these days than doing it in person

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/19/09 10:51 AM
The little girl who committed suicide was spreading false rumors over the internet that the other girl was Gay!

Is one illegal and the other not?

Raise your children with sound strong minds and a little grit. This chit wouldnt be a case if people were able to take resposibility for their own faults.

adj4u's photo
Tue 05/19/09 10:56 AM
Edited by adj4u on Tue 05/19/09 10:56 AM

coercion is broader

and it's no different these days than doing it in person


still can not force them to do anything they do not want to do

unless they are there

or black mail them

even those under hypnotics will not do something they feel strongly against doing what it feels is wrong

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yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 10:57 AM
an adult can coerce a child. children are impressionable

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:09 AM

an adult can coerce a child. children are impressionable


Twist it any way that makes you feel good, but this


Prosecutors said Drew sought to humiliate Megan Meier by helping create a fictitious teen boy with the help of her then-13-year-old daughter Sarah and business assistant Ashley Grills on MySpace and sending flirtatious messages to the girl in his name.

The fake boy then dumped Megan in a message saying the world would be better without her. She hanged herself a short time later in October 2006.

Prosecutors believe Drew and her daughter, who was friends with Megan, created the profile to find out if Megan was spreading rumors about Sarah. Grills testified she received a message from Megan in mid-2006, calling Drew's daughter a lesbian.

Grills, who testified under a promise of immunity, allegedly sent the final, insulting message to Megan before she killed herself in the St. Louis suburb of Dardenne Prairie.

Prosecutors said Megan sent a response saying, "`You are the kind of boy a girl would kill herself over.'"


was not coercion!

Megan sent a response saying, "`You are the kind of boy a girl would kill herself over.'"

Quit babying them and Raise your children with sound strong minds and a little grit.



yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:11 AM
excuse me...I have raised my son right and I make no excuses for my son. and if he did the rumors first....then he should be charged as well ...they are 2 separate cases.

what the child did is slander and harassment

what the adult should have done was either talk to the child's parents or go to the autorities...NOT act like a child

Lynann's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:14 AM
Had to get clarification...sorry....there is a substantial difference between "black male" and "blackmail" and although I thought you meant to say blackmail I didn't want to assume.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:20 AM


an adult can coerce a child. children are impressionable


Twist it any way that makes you feel good, but this


Prosecutors said Drew sought to humiliate Megan Meier by helping create a fictitious teen boy with the help of her then-13-year-old daughter Sarah and business assistant Ashley Grills on MySpace and sending flirtatious messages to the girl in his name.

The fake boy then dumped Megan in a message saying the world would be better without her. She hanged herself a short time later in October 2006.

Prosecutors believe Drew and her daughter, who was friends with Megan, created the profile to find out if Megan was spreading rumors about Sarah. Grills testified she received a message from Megan in mid-2006, calling Drew's daughter a lesbian.

Grills, who testified under a promise of immunity, allegedly sent the final, insulting message to Megan before she killed herself in the St. Louis suburb of Dardenne Prairie.

Prosecutors said Megan sent a response saying, "`You are the kind of boy a girl would kill herself over.'"


was not coercion!

Megan sent a response saying, "`You are the kind of boy a girl would kill herself over.'"

Quit babying them and Raise your children with sound strong minds and a little grit.





yes...the adult played mind games with a child. comeon!!!! there are adults that get depressed or suicidal....why would a child be different? children haven't had the life experiences as most adults.

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:24 AM

excuse me...I have raised my son right and I make no excuses for my son. and if he did the rumors first....then he should be charged as well ...they are 2 separate cases.

what the child did is slander and harassment

what the adult should have done was either talk to the child's parents or go to the autorities...NOT act like a child


In November, jurors decided Drew was not guilty of the more serious felonies of intentionally causing emotional harm while accessing computers without authorization. The jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on a felony conspiracy charge.

Now the Judge questions whether charges should even have been brought against her period.
He's threatening to throw what's left of the case out!
bigsmile

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:26 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Tue 05/19/09 11:27 AM
Now she should be allowed to sue the State for harassment.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:26 AM


excuse me...I have raised my son right and I make no excuses for my son. and if he did the rumors first....then he should be charged as well ...they are 2 separate cases.

what the child did is slander and harassment

what the adult should have done was either talk to the child's parents or go to the autorities...NOT act like a child


In November, jurors decided Drew was not guilty of the more serious felonies of intentionally causing emotional harm while accessing computers without authorization. The jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on a felony conspiracy charge.

Now the Judge questions whether charges should even have been brought against her period.
He's threatening to throw what's left of the case out!
bigsmile


and that is what they found in this case...but there are laws for other cases

there are different circumstances etc

what the adult did at the least should have been harassment

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:27 AM
noway noway

The State!

Winx's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:39 AM

If anything,
The girls mother should be charged with child neglect!


laugh

Winx's photo
Tue 05/19/09 11:45 AM



adj...if it is an adult and the child is webcamming...it could be child porn...but there are cyberstalking and harassment laws.


but you can not force some one to do something over the internet

unless there is black male involved


or by coercion

The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. The crime of intentionally and unlawfully restraining another's freedom by threatening to commit a crime, accusing the victim of a crime, disclosing any secret that would seriously impair the victim's reputation in the community, or by performing or refusing to perform an official action lawfully requested by the victim, or by causing an official to do so.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/coercion


Rose,

I'm with you on this. She was bullied too. Her messages that she sent to the pretend boy/adult were shared with others. Bulletins were posted about her. Kids at school read these!


Winx's photo
Tue 05/19/09 12:08 PM
It is a ground breaking case. That's why the judge needs to think about for a month before he makes his decision.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 12:28 PM
same kind of thing happened to my niece. her ex boyfriend's mom emailed her friends pretending to be her son. and it went all over school. after I spoke to the mom and told her to get a life (among other words) she hasn't messed with us since.

now if the child that committed suicide was spresading rumors and harassing someone as well...then the adult should have spoke to the child's parent or reported the child to the authorities. it is ridiculous that a grown adult would act that way

Winx's photo
Tue 05/19/09 12:44 PM
ABC News on it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7612648

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 05/19/09 12:50 PM


excuse me...I have raised my son right and I make no excuses for my son. and if he did the rumors first....then he should be charged as well ...they are 2 separate cases.

what the child did is slander and harassment

what the adult should have done was either talk to the child's parents or go to the autorities...NOT act like a child


In November, jurors decided Drew was not guilty of the more serious felonies of intentionally causing emotional harm while accessing computers without authorization. The jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on a felony conspiracy charge.

Now the Judge questions whether charges should even have been brought against her period.
He's threatening to throw what's left of the case out!
bigsmile


no...

Wu squared off with Assistant U.S. Attorney Mark Krause for more than an hour about a defense motion seeking to dismiss Drew's conviction. The judge wondered whether Drew should have been indicted under the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which in the past has been used in hacking and trademark theft cases.


the WRONG charges were pressed...not that the right charges should have been pressed. the crime didn't fall under the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, but it does fall under the harassment and cyberstalking laws

Fanta46's photo
Tue 05/19/09 12:53 PM
Misdemeanors.