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Topic: and as many as 12 —having been tortured to death by USA
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Wed 05/06/09 12:41 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 05/06/09 12:42 PM
United States interrogators killed nearly four dozen detainees during or after their interrogations, according a report published by a human rights researcher based on a Human Rights First report and followup investigations.

In all, 98 detainees have died while in US hands. Thirty-four homicides have been identified, with at least eight detainees — and as many as 12 — having been tortured to death, according to a 2006 Human Rights First report that underwrites the researcher’s posting. The causes of 48 more deaths remain uncertain.

The researcher, John Sifton, worked for five years for Human Rights Watch. In a posting Tuesday, he documents myriad cases of detainees who died at the hands of their US interrogators. Some of the instances he cites are graphic.

Most of those taken captive were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq. They include at least one Afghani soldier, Jamal Naseer, who was mistakenly arrested in 2004. “Those arrested with Naseer later said that during interrogations U.S. personnel punched and kicked them, hung them upside down, and hit them with sticks or cables,” Sifton writes. “Some said they were doused with cold water and forced to lie in the snow. Nasser collapsed about two weeks after the arrest, complaining of stomach pain, probably an internal hemorrhage.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/06/us-interrogators-killed-dozens-human-rights-researcher-and-rights-group-say/

And Obama refuse to suspend this operation, also refuses to investigate.

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Wed 05/06/09 12:45 PM
That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile

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Wed 05/06/09 12:48 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Wed 05/06/09 12:49 PM

That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile


Another Afghan killing occurred in 2002. Mohammad Sayari was killed by four U.S. servicemembers after being detained for allegedly “following their movements.” A Pentagon document obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union in 2005 said that the Defense Department found a captain and three sergeants had “murdered” Sayari, but the section dealing with the department’s probe was redacted.

Perhaps the most macabre case occurred in Iraq, which was documented in a Human Rights First report in 2006.

“Nagem Sadoon Hatab… a 52-year-old Iraqi, was killed while in U.S. custody at a holding camp close to Nasiriyah,” the group wrote. “Although a U.S. Army medical examiner found that Hatab had died of strangulation, the evidence that would have been required to secure accountability for his death – Hatab’s body – was rendered unusable in court. Hatab’s internal organs were left exposed on an airport tarmac for hours; in the blistering Baghdad heat, the organs were destroyed; the throat bone that would have supported the Army medical examiner’s findings of strangulation was never found.”

In another graphic instance, a former Iraqi general was beaten by US forces and suffocated to death. The military officer charged in the death was given just 60 days house arrest.

“Abed Hamed Mowhoush [was] a former Iraqi general beaten over days by U.S. Army, CIA and other non-military forces, stuffed into a sleeping bag, wrapped with electrical cord, and suffocated to death,” Human Rights First writes. “In the recently concluded trial of a low-level military officer charged in Mowhoush’s death, the officer received a written reprimand, a fine, and 60 days with his movements limited to his work, home, and church.”

Another Iraqi man was killed in a US detention facility on Mosul in 2003.

“U.S. military personnel who examined Kenami when he first arrived at the facility determined that he had no preexisting medical conditions,” the rights group writes. “Once in custody, as a disciplinary measure for talking, Kenami was forced to perform extreme amounts of exercise—a technique used across Afghanistan and Iraq. Then his hands were bound behind his back with plastic handcuffs, he was hooded, and forced to lie in an overcrowded cell. Kenami was found dead the morning after his arrest, still bound and hooded. No autopsy was conducted; no official cause of death was determined. After the Abu Ghraib scandal, a review of Kenami’s death was launched, and Army reviewers criticized the initial criminal investigation for failing to conduct an autopsy; interview interrogators, medics, or detainees present at the scene of the death; and collect physical evidence. To date, however, the Army has taken no known action in the case.”

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/06/us-interrogators-killed-dozens-human-rights-researcher-and-rights-group-say/

I hope you sleep well. Don't forget to take off your tunnel vision glasses.

Havaman's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:50 PM
And brought us to thier level?? If so... then what are we fighting for in the first place? Yeah,,I KNOW.... OIL

bastet126's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:51 PM
and we grew up thinking Risk was just a board game ohwell

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 05/06/09 12:53 PM

That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

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Wed 05/06/09 12:59 PM


That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

Oh I don't know, I don't recall any hits on us since 9/11.
Do you??????what

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Wed 05/06/09 01:04 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 05/06/09 01:05 PM



That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

Oh I don't know, I don't recall any hits on us since 9/11.
Do you??????what
:smile: We were hit on 911 because we didnt torture?:smile: Are you saying that torture would have stopped 911?:smile: Are you saying that we are safe now that we have tortured people?:smile:

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Wed 05/06/09 01:05 PM
No and Yes

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Wed 05/06/09 01:06 PM



That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

Oh I don't know, I don't recall any hits on us since 9/11.
Do you??????what

Why would they need to? Look at what we have become. Maybe they realize that the best offense they could ever have would be to put us in a constant state of unreasonable fear. Why would they need to defeat us if we defeat ourselves?

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 05/06/09 01:10 PM




That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

Oh I don't know, I don't recall any hits on us since 9/11.
Do you??????what

Why would they need to? Look at what we have become. Maybe they realize that the best offense they could ever have would be to put us in a constant state of unreasonable fear. Why would they need to defeat us if we defeat ourselves?
:smile: Exactly.:smile: By us living in fear and violating our own values then they have achieved their terroristic goals:smile:

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Wed 05/06/09 01:13 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Wed 05/06/09 01:17 PM

No and Yes
:smile: Are we safe now that we have tortured people?:smile: Torture would keep a terroristic attack from happening?:smile: Also, was there any Iraqis involved in 911 or a terrorist attack?:smile: Then why were Iraqis being tortured?:smile: So,if you torture just anyone it will keep another person from attacking?:smile:Are you saying that we wont be attacked again because we tortured some people?:smile:

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Wed 05/06/09 01:33 PM
Realistically, those who give the order or know it happens are more aware now and it will be more secret than ever.
If they believe torture is needed, all they have to do is sub-contract it.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 05/06/09 01:44 PM

Realistically, those who give the order or know it happens are more aware now and it will be more secret than ever.
If they believe torture is needed, all they have to do is sub-contract it.
:smile: Nothing new about that.:smile: Criminals tend to try to cover up their deeds to avoid being prosecuted.:smile:

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Wed 05/06/09 01:45 PM
The Vet in me is ashamed!

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Wed 05/06/09 01:57 PM

That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile


Your thinking saddens me. We are talking "suspects"! Most are later released (after years of this treatment) without charges, their lives having been ruined!

I hope for your sake, that you are never "suspect" in their eyes. Then again, that might be "what it would take to protect this country..." from people of your opinion!

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Wed 05/06/09 01:59 PM



That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

Oh I don't know, I don't recall any hits on us since 9/11.
Do you??????what


I don't recall any "hits" by muslim terrorists before 9/11.... do you?

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Wed 05/06/09 02:43 PM
The Red Cross says we just killed over 120 civilians in an airstrike in Afghanistan. 98 captured terrorists in 5 years, 120 civilians in 5 seconds. Makes me wonder about some peoples priorities.

I am personally far more concerned with us accidentally killing civilians, than men that should have been shot on the battlefield fighting against us.

maybe Im naive, or maybe I don't have an agenda.

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Wed 05/06/09 02:51 PM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Wed 05/06/09 02:51 PM
that'll teach em

take THAT dead terrorists

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Wed 05/06/09 05:03 PM




That's all?
Hummmm, I would have done more if that was what it would take to protect this country from crazy muslims....bigsmile
laughDoesnt seem to have worked or even had an effectlaugh

Oh I don't know, I don't recall any hits on us since 9/11.
Do you??????what


I don't recall any "hits" by muslim terrorists before 9/11.... do you?

I guess you have a bad memory. You seem to forget about the attack on the Cole, the first attack on the Towers, the attack on the Marines in Beirut.

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