Topic: Changing yourself for others.
Snickit's photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:25 PM
Edited by Snickit on Thu 04/30/09 08:27 PM
Where do you draw the line? Throughout our entire lives, people have always told us to "just be yourself", but nobody's perfect - I think it's safe to say everybody has bad personality traits, ranging from minor flaws to major problems - and compromise is an integral part of a relationship. So that begs the question: Is there fault in changing a part of yourself for another person? I'm curious to see the responses.

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:26 PM
everybody changes all the time

the thing is to control the changes so that you become something you want to be

Jill298's photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:28 PM
Edited by Jill298 on Thu 04/30/09 08:29 PM
If you don't change thru out your life, we would all still act like children. Well... some of us still do laugh You have to change. You have to learn and grown and evolve. But... you can't do it for someone else. You have to change for you. You learned that whatever personality trait you have wasn't good, you evolved into something better.

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Thu 04/30/09 08:29 PM
I wouldn't change for anyone. I will only change with what I learn as I get wiser.

Jill298's photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:31 PM
The problem is if you go and pretend you're something your not, just to attract someone else... your real self will eventually come out. It's not right or fair to get someone by deception.

Snickit's photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:31 PM
Edited by Snickit on Thu 04/30/09 08:31 PM

Savitar's photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:31 PM
To thine own self be true .

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Thu 04/30/09 08:50 PM
David Bowie-Changes

I still don't know what I was waiting for
And my time was running wild
A million dead-end streets
Every time I thought I'd got it made
It seemed the taste was not so sweet
So I turned myself to face me
But I've never caught a glimpse
Of how the others must see the faker
I'm much too fast to take that test

Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
(Turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-Changes
Don't want to be a richer man
Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
(Turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-Changes
Just gonna have to be a different man
Time may change me
But I can't trace time

I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence and
So the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're going through

Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
(Turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-Changes
Don't tell t hem to grow up and out of it
Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
(Turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-Changes
Where's your shame
You've left us up to our necks in it
Time may change me
But you can't trace time

Strange fascination, fascinating me
Changes are taking the pace I'm going through

Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
(Turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-Changes
Oh, look out you rock 'n rollers
Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes
(Turn and face the strain)
Ch-ch-Changes
Pretty soon you're gonna get a little older
Time may change me
But I can't trace time
I said that time may change me
But I can't trace time
:smile: drinker smokin

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:51 PM
I feel unhappy
I feel so sad
I'v lost the best friend
That I ever had
She was my woman
I loved her so
But it's too late now
I've let her go
I'm going through changes
I'm going through changes
We shared the years
We shared each day
In love together
We found a way
But soon the world
Had its evil way
My heart was blinded
Love went astray
I'm going through changes
I'm going through changes
It took so long
To realize
That I can still hear
Her last goodbyes
Now all my days
Are filled with tears
Wish I could go back
And change these years
I'm going through changes
I'm going through changes

bgeorge's photo
Thu 04/30/09 08:59 PM
depends on the reason for the change and if it's a change you can live with...

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 09:05 PM

To thine own self be true .


yep

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 09:20 PM
Everyone I've been involved with -- with one exception -- has made it a priority to "domesticate" me.

I will not be domesticated. Period.

In terms of other changes -- yes, we all adapt, we all learn, and grow -- and compromise. We agree to make an effort to address problems and problematic situations.

But I will not change the who of who I am.



no photo
Thu 04/30/09 09:21 PM

To thine own self be true .


This is quite true. When there comes a time where [you] realize that a change is needed, then by this very change, you are indeed staying true to yourself.

If in a relationship and your partner shows distress with a portion of your personality, a change may be good or bad; depending on what it is and the benefits it will bring to YOUR personality (not your partners')...

So, "To thine own Self, be true" seems true from my perspective (^_^(

msmyka's photo
Thu 04/30/09 09:23 PM

Everyone I've been involved with -- with one exception -- has made it a priority to "domesticate" me.

I will not be domesticated. Period.

In terms of other changes -- yes, we all adapt, we all learn, and grow -- and compromise. We agree to make an effort to address problems and problematic situations.

But I will not change the who of who I am.


That's what I'm talkin about smokin

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 09:36 PM

Where do you draw the line? Throughout our entire lives, people have always told us to "just be yourself", but nobody's perfect - I think it's safe to say everybody has bad personality traits, ranging from minor flaws to major problems - and compromise is an integral part of a relationship. So that begs the question: Is there fault in changing a part of yourself for another person? I'm curious to see the responses.


Yeah. There IS a fault to changing yourself for another person. And that's that you're CHANGING yourself for another person, which is something NO ONE should do. You are your OWN person, and to be expected to be changed because someone is so shallow as to not accept you for who you are is spurious at best.

The ONLY way changing for someone will work is if the other person decides to want to change in some way as well. This is especially true for relationships- you simply can't be made to "change" when the other party hasn't done so him/herself. Relationships are TWO way streets, and that goes with regard to personalities as well.


DragonFlyTat's photo
Fri 05/01/09 09:46 AM

Everyone I've been involved with -- with one exception -- has made it a priority to "domesticate" me.

I will not be domesticated. Period.

In terms of other changes -- yes, we all adapt, we all learn, and grow -- and compromise. We agree to make an effort to address problems and problematic situations.

But I will not change the who of who I am.



We wouldn't want you to change Lex. We are all different and that is what makes us special.

a_shields's photo
Fri 05/01/09 09:48 AM

Where do you draw the line? Throughout our entire lives, people have always told us to "just be yourself", but nobody's perfect - I think it's safe to say everybody has bad personality traits, ranging from minor flaws to major problems - and compromise is an integral part of a relationship. So that begs the question: Is there fault in changing a part of yourself for another person? I'm curious to see the responses.


there are 6 billion people on this planet.

one of them is just like you.

changing who you are for another person = long term misery.

no photo
Fri 05/01/09 09:58 AM
we all change... when we want something.... love, money or what ever. we adapt, overcome...sacrifice. But we do it in a way that we can accept ourselves, with out giving up our identity to who we are.. Its when we give up our own identity and values is when it becomes a problem after time. We then realize we changed not for the better , but for the worse.

metalhead1969's photo
Fri 05/01/09 10:05 AM

I feel unhappy
I feel so sad
I'v lost the best friend
That I ever had
She was my woman
I loved her so
But it's too late now
I've let her go
I'm going through changes
I'm going through changes
We shared the years
We shared each day
In love together
We found a way
But soon the world
Had its evil way
My heart was blinded
Love went astray
I'm going through changes
I'm going through changes
It took so long
To realize
That I can still hear
Her last goodbyes
Now all my days
Are filled with tears
Wish I could go back
And change these years
I'm going through changes
I'm going through changes


drinker smokin

change only for urself dude, i speak from experience