Topic: When is a victim not a victim?
Winx's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:28 PM
She thinks that 12 year olds are deprived of sex. She was driving a car and making her own decisions and having sex at 12. Said she didn't need others to think for her.

Obviously she was manipulated by this older man. She is in denial now.

It's scary to think how she would be when if she were to have a daughter.

Winx's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:28 PM




A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old.


this is way to simplified

you may want to rethink it

or make it more specific


to say that means you can never be a victim (you are over 18)

does that mean no matter what anyone does to you you are not a victim


Ummm..the topic is pedophial.


but what if the person is chronologically 21

and

mentally 13




That's a whole other ballgame.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:29 PM
where were the parents????

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:31 PM





A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old.


this is way to simplified

you may want to rethink it

or make it more specific


to say that means you can never be a victim (you are over 18)

does that mean no matter what anyone does to you you are not a victim


Ummm..the topic is pedophial.


but what if the person is chronologically 21

and

mentally 13




That's a whole other ballgame.


not according to your blanket statement

"""A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old."""

no photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:32 PM
Sounds to me like the parents were there and didn't care or thought that it was too much trouble to deal with her. Or they were stupid enough to think that she could take care of herself. She did say that she lived at home.

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:35 PM
http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/first_ladies/marthawashington/

MARTHA DANDRIDGE CUSTIS WASHINGTON
b.1731 -- d.1802


From the day Martha married George Washington in 1759


do the math is it not either 27 or 28


Winx's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:35 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 04/27/09 10:35 PM






A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old.


this is way to simplified

you may want to rethink it

or make it more specific


to say that means you can never be a victim (you are over 18)

does that mean no matter what anyone does to you you are not a victim


Ummm..the topic is pedophial.


but what if the person is chronologically 21

and

mentally 13




That's a whole other ballgame.


not according to your blanket statement

"""A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old."""


It was not a blanket statement. I was responding to the topic of pedophial.


yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:36 PM
there are adults that don't come up with great choices in life....how would a 12 yr old? that is ridiculous

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:40 PM
if you say so

and which age is the age you go by

chronological or mental

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When is a victim not a victim?
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A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old.

sounds like a very open ended statement

ThomasJB's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:50 PM
Edited by ThomasJB on Mon 04/27/09 10:59 PM
Who decides who is a victim? The woman, though clearly not the brightest of women, seems mature and reasonable sane. She claims she wasn't the victim. From her video it would seem she is suggesting it was a positive relationship, so would you now force her to go back and see it as traumatic?

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:52 PM
when she was 12...the law says she was a victim of an older man

FearandLoathing's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:52 PM
I started watching a bit of the video while she was babbling about some odd or end...and then my eye's wandered over to the side "Hair dryers emit EMFs into your brain!!!"

Needless to say this completly crippled any credibility, along with the mass load of other crap videos she has...

Winx's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:54 PM

if you say so

and which age is the age you go by

chronological or mental

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When is a victim not a victim?
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A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old.

sounds like a very open ended statement


I say so. I said it.

A victim is not a victim over the age of 18 - when it pertains to this topic of pedophial. No gray for me on this age and an older man.

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:56 PM

Who decides who is a victim? The woman, though clearly not the brightest of women, seems mature and reasonable sane. She claims she was the victim. From her video it would seem she is suggesting it was a positive relationship, so would you now force her to go back and see it as traumatic?


actually she claims she was not a victim

that is her point

not that i am condoning the action

but as was pointed out on a popular crime show awhile back

the criminal says to the cop as the child walks out in hysterics when they were with (him) (the criminal) they were laughing and having fun who is the one traumatizing them

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:57 PM
Edited by adj4u on Mon 04/27/09 10:57 PM


if you say so

and which age is the age you go by

chronological or mental

---------------------------------------------
When is a victim not a victim?
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
A victim is not a victim when they are over 18 years old.

sounds like a very open ended statement


I say so. I said it.

A victim is not a victim over the age of 18 - when it pertains to this topic of pedophial. No gray for me on this age and an older man.


which 18 are we talking about

oh so it is ok for an older woman and an under 18 male :wink:

drinker

Winx's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:57 PM

I started watching a bit of the video while she was babbling about some odd or end...and then my eye's wandered over to the side "Hair dryers emit EMFs into your brain!!!"

Needless to say this completly crippled any credibility, along with the mass load of other crap videos she has...


I was thinking about that hairdryer too.laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:59 PM
adj...that is illegal too. look at those teachers that slept with their students that went to prison

Winx's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:59 PM
All 18 yr. olds, Adj4u.laugh

adj4u's photo
Mon 04/27/09 10:59 PM


I started watching a bit of the video while she was babbling about some odd or end...and then my eye's wandered over to the side "Hair dryers emit EMFs into your brain!!!"

Needless to say this completly crippled any credibility, along with the mass load of other crap videos she has...


I was thinking about that hairdryer too.laugh


me too actually

laugh

ThomasJB's photo
Mon 04/27/09 11:00 PM


Who decides who is a victim? The woman, though clearly not the brightest of women, seems mature and reasonable sane. She claims she was the victim. From her video it would seem she is suggesting it was a positive relationship, so would you now force her to go back and see it as traumatic?


actually she claims she was not a victim

that is her point

not that i am condoning the action

but as was pointed out on a popular crime show awhile back

the criminal says to the cop as the child walks out in hysterics when they were with (him) (the criminal) they were laughing and having fun who is the one traumatizing them

Typo -I corrected it. bigsmile