Topic: need some info
Queene123's photo
Wed 04/15/09 11:04 PM
i dont know if anyone can help me with some legal advice
i had mention this before
but im wondering sense my daughter is planing to move to tinian(near guam) does she have to get permission from there father to take them out of country. and besides that hes in jail for another 5yrs. his name is only listed on the youngest birthcertificate. his name is not listed on the other 2.

we all know she making a big mistake.. but of course she not listening. the kids dont want to go. but nothing that we can really do

i have thought about contacting legal aid but they can do so much.. i just want questions if she even take the kids out of the country legally

horseracer's photo
Wed 04/15/09 11:10 PM
IF SHES THE COSTODIAL PARENT AND HAS THE PASPORT FOR ALL, SHE CAN TAKE THEM ANY WERE SHE CHOSES

Jill298's photo
Wed 04/15/09 11:10 PM
Ummmm if he's in prison and she has full custody of the kids, I don't believe you need his permission. I have full custody of my daughter and I can move her where I choose... regardless of what her "father" would say.

Jules0565's photo
Wed 04/15/09 11:18 PM
If she has full physical custody and joint LEGAL custody..then she must get the courts permission.

I have full physical custody and joint legal custody ..in Michigan if I were wanting to move out of state, it would have to be granted by a judge to do so.

Queene123's photo
Wed 04/15/09 11:36 PM

If she has full physical custody and joint LEGAL custody..then she must get the courts permission.

I have full physical custody and joint legal custody ..in Michigan if I were wanting to move out of state, it would have to be granted by a judge to do so.


well yea she does. even though she didnt go to legal aid to file that she was the legal parent. a friend of mine did that for she didnt know what there dad would had done.
there is nothing stated he has join custody for there not even divorced. and she is in a gay relationship.. we think she going through a faze. for when she first got together with her partner, she stated even though she in a gay relationship doesnt mean she gay.. and later on she totally said the oppisit.

no photo
Thu 04/16/09 04:28 AM
Laws in different states vary, in many states if her custody order doesn't specifically state she can move wherever she chooses, then to take them out of the country could be construed as parental kidnapping. I would call your local legal aid and ask them what the laws in your state are.

justinc1431's photo
Thu 04/16/09 04:33 AM
Contact your counties family court office. They should be able to tell you if she can do this legally or not.

stacb's photo
Fri 04/17/09 03:02 AM

Laws in different states vary, in many states if her custody order doesn't specifically state she can move wherever she chooses, then to take them out of the country could be construed as parental kidnapping. I would call your local legal aid and ask them what the laws in your state are.



This is so what I was going to say!

ReddBeans's photo
Fri 04/17/09 06:59 AM

Laws in different states vary, in many states if her custody order doesn't specifically state she can move wherever she chooses, then to take them out of the country could be construed as parental kidnapping. I would call your local legal aid and ask them what the laws in your state are.


Was goin to say the same thing. Laws vary from state to state. For instance my full cutody order is out of Michigan. I still had to get permission from a judge to move my son out of state. And if I decide to move out of the state of Mississippi to anywhere else other than Michigan I have to again get a judge's permission. shades

no photo
Fri 04/17/09 07:01 AM
I don't know!!!


But to comment on your comment.

It is her life to do as she wishes....how is that(moving) a mistake??? it may be ...but it is for her to determine...

judge not


plk1966's photo
Fri 04/17/09 07:03 AM
This just happened to my daughter.....since 9/11 Federal law now mandates that all minor children that need a passport have the signatures of both parents

lilith401's photo
Fri 04/17/09 07:09 AM
This would only be an issue for one of the children, unless there is a court document stipulating otherwise.

First, I'd call the passport office. No, wait, your daughter should do that.

Can I ask why she is moving so far away, and why she thinks this is okay for her kids?

Monier's photo
Fri 04/17/09 10:50 PM
I have a friend going through trying to see her child whose father lives overseas. If she takes them out of the country without the permission of the father, she would be considered a international fugative.

Queene123's photo
Fri 04/17/09 11:07 PM

This just happened to my daughter.....since 9/11 Federal law now mandates that all minor children that need a passport have the signatures of both parents


even if the father name isent on the 2 oldest birth certificate

Queene123's photo
Fri 04/17/09 11:11 PM

This would only be an issue for one of the children, unless there is a court document stipulating otherwise.

First, I'd call the passport office. No, wait, your daughter should do that.

Can I ask why she is moving so far away, and why she thinks this is okay for her kids?


her partner is from there, and her dad is dying and she wants to be there for him. and in my opion my daughter is not really thinking. she more thinking of her ownself and not the kids. they dont want to go

MsCarmen's photo
Fri 04/17/09 11:17 PM
I'm still trying to figure out why you just can't let the girl live her life and let her make her mistakes. Isn't that part of growing up? And it's not like the kids aren't going to be taken care of. This situation has been going on for a while now, why can't you just let it be? So she married a loser, and has now decided that she wants to venture into being a lesbian. Is that so wrong? Are you so totally against it that you are willing to make her life miserable by interfering with her love life just so you can be happy?

Cut the apron strings and let it go. If she makes a mistake, let her deal with it. And if she comes crying back to you, then you can say "I told you so." But until then, let her find out on her own.

And if the Father is going to be in prison for 5 more years, you can pretty much bet that he doesn't have a leg to stand on as far as custody or her decision to move any where in the world if she so chooses.