Topic: Newt's Back!
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Thu 04/09/09 08:47 AM
Here is the Newt we all know so well back in the news. Watch out Newter your true colors are showing!

Newt has some nifty conclusions about President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. One member of the council is a gay activist.

There are 20 plus members who are bishops, reverends, priests and pastors, Baptists, Methodists, Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims. Newt says that the presence of this one gay activist is a sign that, "I think their goal is to have a very secular America in which government dominates everything," he said. "Why wouldn't you put an anti-religious, left-wing zealot on a faith-based group? It's a perfect pattern for this administration."

I guess Newt figures gay people cannot have faith or know God? His statement certainly seems to indicate that.

All this is laughable from a guy who seems to have acted immorally (by his own family values standards) with stunning consistency over the years. How he can criticize anyone's values is unimaginable let alone reach conclusions about someones agenda based upon their sexual orientation!?

If you have forgotten...as so many Americans seem to so quickly do or if you are inclined to believe the hype from the republican family values do as I say not as I do types here is a refresher.

Gingrich, is one of our family values issues jokes who divorced his second wife, Marianne, in 2000 after his attorneys acknowledged Gingrich’s relationship with his current wife, Callista Bisek, a former congressional aide (boinking her while married and pursuing impeachment proceedings against Clinton making him a world class hypocrite) more than 20 years younger than he is.

His first marriage, to his former high school geometry teacher, Jackie Battley, ended in divorce in 1981. Although Gingrich has said he doesn’t remember it, Battley has said Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was recuperating in the hospital from cancer surgery.

Gingrich married Marianne months after the divorce.

Nice eh? This guy presuming to speak to family values would be funny if the reality wasn't so ugly.

Thanks Newt for showing us your true colors again. You were starting to appear almost reasonable and human in the last few months.

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Thu 04/09/09 08:58 AM

Here is the Newt we all know so well back in the news. Watch out Newter your true colors are showing!

Newt has some nifty conclusions about President Obama's Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. One member of the council is a gay activist.

There are 20 plus members who are bishops, reverends, priests and pastors, Baptists, Methodists, Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims. Newt says that the presence of this one gay activist is a sign that, "I think their goal is to have a very secular America in which government dominates everything," he said. "Why wouldn't you put an anti-religious, left-wing zealot on a faith-based group? It's a perfect pattern for this administration."

I guess Newt figures gay people cannot have faith or know God? His statement certainly seems to indicate that.

All this is laughable from a guy who seems to have acted immorally (by his own family values standards) with stunning consistency over the years. How he can criticize anyone's values is unimaginable let alone reach conclusions about someones agenda based upon their sexual orientation!?

If you have forgotten...as so many Americans seem to so quickly do or if you are inclined to believe the hype from the republican family values do as I say not as I do types here is a refresher.

Gingrich, is one of our family values issues jokes who divorced his second wife, Marianne, in 2000 after his attorneys acknowledged Gingrich’s relationship with his current wife, Callista Bisek, a former congressional aide (boinking her while married and pursuing impeachment proceedings against Clinton making him a world class hypocrite) more than 20 years younger than he is.

His first marriage, to his former high school geometry teacher, Jackie Battley, ended in divorce in 1981. Although Gingrich has said he doesn’t remember it, Battley has said Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was recuperating in the hospital from cancer surgery.

Gingrich married Marianne months after the divorce.DID THEY MEET ON MINGLE2?????????????????????????????

Nice eh? This guy presuming to speak to family values would be funny if the reality wasn't so ugly.

Thanks Newt for showing us your true colors again. You were starting to appear almost reasonable and human in the last few months.

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Thu 04/09/09 10:13 AM
typical...here's what Newt was responding to...and...rightfully so !!

Harry Knox, who is a newly appointed member of Obama’s Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships, is the director of the religion and faith program at the Human Rights Campaign, a homosexual activist group.

In addition to his remarks about the Pope, Knox also criticized the Catholic Knights of Columbus as being “foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression” because of the Knights’ support of Proposition 8. The latter was a ballot initiative that amended California’s state constitution to define marriage as being between a man and a woman, and passed in November 2008.

Knox told CNSNews.com that he “absolutely” stands by his criticism of the pope.

"The Pope needs to start telling the truth about condom use," Knox said on Monday, Apr. 6. "We are eager to help him do that. Until he is willing to do that and able, he's doing a great deal more harm than good -- not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people's lives.”

On Mar. 19, Knox told the San Francisco-based gay newspaper The Bay Area Reporter, “The Knights of Columbus do a great deal of good in the name of Jesus Christ, but in this particular case [Proposition 8], they were foot soldiers of a discredited army of oppression.”

The newspaper further reported: “Knox noted that the Knights of Columbus ‘followed discredited leaders,’ including bishops and Pope Benedict XVI. ‘A pope who literally today said condoms don't help in control of AIDS.’”

According to the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Web site, the religion and faith program run by Knox has created “a weekly preaching resource that provides scriptural commentary to ministers and lay people interested in an ecumenical gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender perspective on the Bible."

The site further states that the program has set a goal of doing “faith-based transgender education in 40 diverse congressional districts across the country. Clergy participating in the program will take their congregants to Capitol Hill on May 4 and 5 as part of the ‘2009 Clergy Call for Justice and Equality,’” an event sponsored by the HRC.

In a statement posted Monday on the HRC Web site, Knox said he was humbled by his appointment to Obama’s Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

“I hope this council will draw upon the richness of our unique perspectives to advise the president on policies that will improve the lives of all the people we have been called to serve,” Knox said. “The lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community is eager to help the Administration achieve its goals around economic recovery and fighting poverty; fatherhood and healthy families; inter-religious dialogue; care for the environment; and global poverty, health and development. And, of course, we will support the President in living up to his promise that government has no place in funding bigotry against any group of people.”

The appointment of Knox advisory board makes a mockery of the faith-based program, said Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League.

“This is exactly the kind of bastardization of common sense that the Obama people are putting forth,” Donohue told CNSNews.com. “Quite frankly, I would prefer to see the entire faith-based initiative closed down. They’re going to use this as political capital in the Obama administration to say, ‘We reach out to people of faith.’ The whole thing is a sham.”

“I’d rather people simply be honest and say we don’t believe in faith-based initiatives as they were initially intended by the previous administration, and what we’re going to do is thoroughly politicize them with these gay activists,” said Donohue.

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Thu 04/09/09 10:30 AM
tears drinks

Lynann's photo
Thu 04/09/09 11:25 AM
HA HA HA Yeah...the Pope saying condom use actually increased the tansmission of AIDS...there's common sense at work.

I could go on but...

Winx's photo
Thu 04/09/09 01:14 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 04/09/09 01:18 PM
A man that did this:

Gingrich, divorced his second wife, Marianne, in 2000 after his attorneys acknowledged Gingrich’s relationship with his current wife, Callista Bisek, a former congressional aide (boinking her while married and pursuing impeachment proceedings against Clinton making him a world class hypocrite) more than 20 years younger than he is.

His first marriage, to his former high school geometry teacher, Jackie Battley, ended in divorce in 1981. Although Gingrich has said he doesn’t remember it, Battley has said Gingrich discussed divorce terms with her while she was recuperating in the hospital from cancer surgery."


Is angry about a man that said this intelligent statement?:


"The Pope needs to start telling the truth about condom use," Knox said on Monday, Apr. 6. "We are eager to help him do that. Until he is willing to do that and able, he's doing a great deal more harm than good -- not just in Africa but around the world. It is endangering people's lives.”


rofl




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Thu 04/09/09 07:26 PM
Will the catholic church ever have a younger pope that might even relate to this generation or the next? Geesh...

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Thu 04/09/09 07:50 PM

HA HA HA Yeah...the Pope saying condom use actually increased the tansmission of AIDS...there's common sense at work.

I could go on but...

Yes, you could go on attempting to discuss your take on "common sense" but that would be as silly as Newt carrying on about family values. huh

Winx's photo
Thu 04/09/09 08:06 PM


HA HA HA Yeah...the Pope saying condom use actually increased the tansmission of AIDS...there's common sense at work.

I could go on but...

Yes, you could go on attempting to discuss your take on "common sense" but that would be as silly as Newt carrying on about family values. huh


She was being sarcastic. :wink:

The Pope actually actually said that condoms increased the transmission of AIDS.

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Thu 04/09/09 08:57 PM
In poor countries and especially in Africa, if one partner has aids, it's insane not to use condoms, and criminal in my book. Only some out of touch person would suggest that insanity.

Why would we assume people are not basically the same all over the world, people indulge in sex without being married and a condom is one of the best ways to prevent the transfer. The pope seems to live in a very sheltered bubble and is unaware of the basic reality of life.

How long has religion taught abstinence and yet we are over populated and dieing of aids everywhere. I often wonder if religion stopped all the puritanical lecturing if maybe one day sex would stop being the focus of everything in life. As long as it is taboo it seems to get crazier. Is that a strange thought or what?

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Fri 04/10/09 04:18 AM
Kinda sounds like your 2004 VP nominee:

John (I live in a 28,000 sq ft house, and am paying my mistress with campaign funds, while my wife is dying from cancer) Edwards.

prisoner's photo
Fri 04/10/09 05:54 AM
:smile: Newt has a new DVD out in which he tells the story of Ronald Reagan...2 idiots for the price of one be seeing you

Zapchaser's photo
Sun 04/12/09 05:34 AM



HA HA HA Yeah...the Pope saying condom use actually increased the tansmission of AIDS...there's common sense at work.

I could go on but...

Yes, you could go on attempting to discuss your take on "common sense" but that would be as silly as Newt carrying on about family values. huh


She was being sarcastic. :wink:

The Pope actually actually said that condoms increased the transmission of AIDS.

I was being sarcastic. :wink:

davinci1952's photo
Sun 04/12/09 07:15 AM
you arent sarcastic are you?

Zapchaser's photo
Tue 04/14/09 06:32 PM

you arent sarcastic are you?

laugh Hey! Long time no see! How are things? drinker